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Court Rules Feds Can Vaccinate Kids WITHOUT Consent

 
Veranidae (OP)

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From time to time, I tell my children that NO ONE has my permission to stick a needle in them without me present. And that particularly, if they are ever in school and ANYONE comes near them with a needle, to call me immediately and start screaming. I don't know what other advice to give. This is NOT how I wish to send my children out in the morning. And YET, I don't see that I have much choice. Worse, my children's pediatrician actually baited me into having my 10-year old son vaccinated with Gardasil during his annual physical. I damn-near shit.
 Quoting: Veranidae


I'm sorry but are you not quite right in the head?

You appear to live in a fantasy world.

If I were that doctor, I'd call social services on you and have that poor kid of yours taken away for his own safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


You're kidding, right? You have no reservations about what some unfamiliar person injects into your child? You have no reservations about ceding your parental rights to the state? Are you MAD? Or are you simply a poster child for David Rockefeller or Satan?
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From time to time, I tell my children that NO ONE has my permission to stick a needle in them without me present. And that particularly, if they are ever in school and ANYONE comes near them with a needle, to call me immediately and start screaming. I don't know what other advice to give. This is NOT how I wish to send my children out in the morning. And YET, I don't see that I have much choice. Worse, my children's pediatrician actually baited me into having my 10-year old son vaccinated with Gardasil during his annual physical. I damn-near shit.
 Quoting: Veranidae


I'm sorry but are you not quite right in the head?

You appear to live in a fantasy world.

If I were that doctor, I'd call social services on you and have that poor kid of yours taken away for his own safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


You're kidding, right? You have no reservations about what some unfamiliar person injects into your child? You have no reservations about ceding your parental rights to the state? Are you MAD? Or are you simply a poster child for David Rockefeller or Satan?
 Quoting: Veranidae


Oh gosh yes, I really do love say 10! LOL

I've actually studied vaccine theory at degree level. I know exactly what does in there and it is quite safe. There is the very occasional allergic reaction but 99.999% of the time, vaccines are completely safe. Witholding them from your children is tantamount to child abuse. In a decent society, you would be rightly prosecuted.
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So the stupid bitch would rather have her child catch a lethal disease than have one small, life-saving injection?

Anti-vaccinatiotards are such.......tards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732

1. The "flu" is rarely lethal, unless you're old or have underlying conditions.

2. When it comes to flu vaccinations, they take a crap shoot as to what strain "may" be the most prevalent for that year.

I've NEVER had a flu shot, and I've NEVER had the flu.
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So the stupid bitch would rather have her child catch a lethal disease than have one small, life-saving injection?

Anti-vaccinatiotards are such.......tards.
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What's in vaccines, some times the cure is worse than....

Sodium chloride
Hydrochloric acid(CAN DESTROY TISSUE UPON DIRECT CONTACT! Found in aluminum cleaners and rust removers)
Aluminum: toxic(cancerous), Thimerosal(mercury derivative) Phosphates(Found in laundry and dishwasher detergent and cleaners).
Aluminum.
mercury

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OP: You are correct.
This is bad news. I would not be able to remain calm if this happened to my child.
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So the stupid bitch would rather have her child catch a lethal disease than have one small, life-saving injection?

Anti-vaccinatiotards are such.......tards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


I'd call you a tard but you are really just a troll.

Anyone with any sense, knows that vaccines are not only not safe (aside from the supposed main ingredients to introduce a bit of the disease to the body to attempt have the immune system detect and create a defense) but the binders and other ingredients are horrendous, mercury for one.

Additionally, it has been proven time and time again that the flu that is actually impacting people's health has mutated so much since the scientists guessed at what strains just might be of a big concern - that the flu vaccines themselves don't even have the correct strain to fight the mutated strain.

Finally, read up on the polio vaccine - do some serious reading and you find that polio has actually run it course and that the vaccine itself caused more polio than if the kids had never been vaccinated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10327591


That's odd. I've had every vaccine I'm able to get and yet I'm actually very healthy and rarely ill. I mean really rarely ill, maybe something like flu once every 4-5 years and even then it's not bad. So how did I escape the evil needle potions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732



Since you confuse anecdotal evidence with statistical, chew on this: I am vaccine-free (except for those mandatory childhood ones, and that was back in the early 60s), have NEVER had a flu vac, and have had the flu ONCE in my entire life -- and that was during childhood.

So much for your "life-saving" bullshit.
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Anyone care to help me post Rage Against The Machine: "Killing In The Name Of?"
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So the stupid bitch would rather have her child catch a lethal disease than have one small, life-saving injection?

Anti-vaccinatiotards are such.......tards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


I'd call you a tard but you are really just a troll.

Anyone with any sense, knows that vaccines are not only not safe (aside from the supposed main ingredients to introduce a bit of the disease to the body to attempt have the immune system detect and create a defense) but the binders and other ingredients are horrendous, mercury for one.

Additionally, it has been proven time and time again that the flu that is actually impacting people's health has mutated so much since the scientists guessed at what strains just might be of a big concern - that the flu vaccines themselves don't even have the correct strain to fight the mutated strain.

Finally, read up on the polio vaccine - do some serious reading and you find that polio has actually run it course and that the vaccine itself caused more polio than if the kids had never been vaccinated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10327591


That's odd. I've had every vaccine I'm able to get and yet I'm actually very healthy and rarely ill. I mean really rarely ill, maybe something like flu once every 4-5 years and even then it's not bad. So how did I escape the evil needle potions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732



Since you confuse anecdotal evidence with statistical, chew on this: I am vaccine-free (except for those mandatory childhood ones, and that was back in the early 60s), have NEVER had a flu vac, and have had the flu ONCE in my entire life -- and that was during childhood.

So much for your "life-saving" bullshit.
 Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856


You do realize that you are alive today because of the positive effect of vaccinations?

Where is smallpox these days I wonder?
Veranidae (OP)

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OP: You are correct.
This is bad news. I would not be able to remain calm if this happened to my child.
5 pins and a STAR!
Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15092331


Thank you for the pin and the stars...on behalf of the kids.
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So the stupid bitch would rather have her child catch a lethal disease than have one small, life-saving injection?

Anti-vaccinatiotards are such.......tards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


Hey Moron, Flu vaccines are NOT life saving, they usually wind up giving you the Flu instead of protecting you from it.
Before you spout drivel from your mouth on subjects you know nothing about I suggest you do some research on the dangers of vaccines and the many contaminates found in them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29007096


This^

I was actually just talking to someone last night at a Christmas party who said she just had the worst case of flu ever over the Thanksgiving holiday. She had taken the flu shot a few weeks prior to that.

Flu Shots do not work as advertised!
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Forced anything (even if done in the name of justice) creates injustice.
Freedom is key. We must be free, allowed to make our own decisions and be held responsible. Life is unfair sometimes however. An informed decision which you are freely allowed to make is the only possible way for a society to sustain itself.
When you decide since something is right for you, thereby it must be right for everyone, that is force. It's a scary place when most people believe their worldview must be enforced.
And forget about freedom, it doesn't exist in America any longer, its gone.
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Injecting my healthy kid with anything without my knowledge and consent would be considered an assualt. Touch my kids without my permission and we've got a serious problem on our hands.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I'd call you a tard but you are really just a troll.

Anyone with any sense, knows that vaccines are not only not safe (aside from the supposed main ingredients to introduce a bit of the disease to the body to attempt have the immune system detect and create a defense) but the binders and other ingredients are horrendous, mercury for one.

Additionally, it has been proven time and time again that the flu that is actually impacting people's health has mutated so much since the scientists guessed at what strains just might be of a big concern - that the flu vaccines themselves don't even have the correct strain to fight the mutated strain.

Finally, read up on the polio vaccine - do some serious reading and you find that polio has actually run it course and that the vaccine itself caused more polio than if the kids had never been vaccinated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10327591


That's odd. I've had every vaccine I'm able to get and yet I'm actually very healthy and rarely ill. I mean really rarely ill, maybe something like flu once every 4-5 years and even then it's not bad. So how did I escape the evil needle potions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732



Since you confuse anecdotal evidence with statistical, chew on this: I am vaccine-free (except for those mandatory childhood ones, and that was back in the early 60s), have NEVER had a flu vac, and have had the flu ONCE in my entire life -- and that was during childhood.

So much for your "life-saving" bullshit.
 Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856


You do realize that you are alive today because of the positive effect of vaccinations?

Where is smallpox these days I wonder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


Your question is a bit enigmatic. If smallpox didn't exist somewhere, why does the U.S. Military consider it to pose a high-level NBC threat? The matter of smallpox is a rabbit hole in and of itself.
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Forced anything (even if done in the name of justice) creates injustice.
Freedom is key. We must be free, allowed to make our own decisions and be held responsible. Life is unfair sometimes however. An informed decision which you are freely allowed to make is the only possible way for a society to sustain itself.
When you decide since something is right for you, thereby it must be right for everyone, that is force. It's a scary place when most people believe their worldview must be enforced.
And forget about freedom, it doesn't exist in America any longer, its gone.
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See Fluoridated Municipal Water Supplies.....
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Injecting my healthy kid with anything without my knowledge and consent would be considered an assualt. Touch my kids without my permission and we've got a serious problem on our hands.
 Quoting: Resister


I agree. Apparently, the courts disagree.
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That's odd. I've had every vaccine I'm able to get and yet I'm actually very healthy and rarely ill. I mean really rarely ill, maybe something like flu once every 4-5 years and even then it's not bad. So how did I escape the evil needle potions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732



Since you confuse anecdotal evidence with statistical, chew on this: I am vaccine-free (except for those mandatory childhood ones, and that was back in the early 60s), have NEVER had a flu vac, and have had the flu ONCE in my entire life -- and that was during childhood.

So much for your "life-saving" bullshit.
 Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856


You do realize that you are alive today because of the positive effect of vaccinations?

Where is smallpox these days I wonder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


Your question is a bit enigmatic. If smallpox didn't exist somewhere, why does the U.S. Military consider it to pose a high-level NBC threat? The matter of smallpox is a rabbit hole in and of itself.
 Quoting: Veranidae


Small samples are kept under heavy guard in research facilities for disease research. There exists a remote possibility that it could be stolen and used for terrorist activities. It's better to be safe than sorry....
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That's odd. I've had every vaccine I'm able to get and yet I'm actually very healthy and rarely ill. I mean really rarely ill, maybe something like flu once every 4-5 years and even then it's not bad. So how did I escape the evil needle potions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732



Since you confuse anecdotal evidence with statistical, chew on this: I am vaccine-free (except for those mandatory childhood ones, and that was back in the early 60s), have NEVER had a flu vac, and have had the flu ONCE in my entire life -- and that was during childhood.

So much for your "life-saving" bullshit.
 Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856


You do realize that you are alive today because of the positive effect of vaccinations?

Where is smallpox these days I wonder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


Your question is a bit enigmatic. If smallpox didn't exist somewhere, why does the U.S. Military consider it to pose a high-level NBC threat? The matter of smallpox is a rabbit hole in and of itself.
 Quoting: Veranidae


Moreover, Bubonic Plague is mysteriously manifesting itself AGAIN without explanation.
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Courts and law etc. is simply there to hide that humanity are simply cattle.
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I've actually studied vaccine theory at degree level. I know exactly what does in there and it is quite safe. There is the very occasional allergic reaction but 99.999% of the time, vaccines are completely safe. Witholding them from your children is tantamount to child abuse. In a decent society, you would be rightly prosecuted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


I am walking around near deaf from auditory nerve damage from a measles vaccine (probably from the mercury), so I know what you are saying is bullshit. I advise people with children to tell their kids to flee anyone with a toxic needle as if they were Polly Klass's killer.
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So the stupid bitch would rather have her child catch a lethal disease than have one small, life-saving injection?

Anti-vaccinatiotards are such.......tards.
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Spoken like a true Govertard. Fuck you idiot.
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I feel sorry for the healtch care worker who gets caught between following ther Feds order, and possibly being killed by an angry parent. The death statistics surrounding vaccines are going to go up.
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Since you confuse anecdotal evidence with statistical, chew on this: I am vaccine-free (except for those mandatory childhood ones, and that was back in the early 60s), have NEVER had a flu vac, and have had the flu ONCE in my entire life -- and that was during childhood.

So much for your "life-saving" bullshit.
 Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856


You do realize that you are alive today because of the positive effect of vaccinations?

Where is smallpox these days I wonder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


Your question is a bit enigmatic. If smallpox didn't exist somewhere, why does the U.S. Military consider it to pose a high-level NBC threat? The matter of smallpox is a rabbit hole in and of itself.
 Quoting: Veranidae


Small samples are kept under heavy guard in research facilities for disease research. There exists a remote possibility that it could be stolen and used for terrorist activities. It's better to be safe than sorry....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


I can't speak for the security in medical labs in other parts of the world. But I can say, in no uncertain terms, compromised security at facilities such as Natick Labs here in the US is inconceivable. In addition, I have no doubt that since a deer tick can be identified on the back of your neck from 10 miles in the air, the U.S. Military knows EXACTLY where bio-warfare labs are located across the globe. The only reason inadequate security would pose a threat would be if the CIA, for instance, turned a blind eye intentionally. Where I live, in "realityville," the only terrorists with access would be working for the government.
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So the stupid bitch would rather have her child catch a lethal disease than have one small, life-saving injection?

Anti-vaccinatiotards are such.......tards.
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The problem is not really "Vaccinations" per se, the problem is "Modified Live Virus Vaccinations"...

1.) These vaccines spread the disease they are "Supposed" to combat because the person vaccinated will actually shed live virulent virus after the vaccination.

2.) Modified Live Vaccines does NOT provide complete immunity in over 70% of people vaccinated with them, in many cases they actually serve to hamper the immune system.

3.) Modified Live Vaccines are dangerous, there are a number of auto-immune problems associated with Modified Live Vaccinations. "Side Effects" from Modified Live Vaccines are up to 500% higher than in killed virus vaccines...

4.) Pharma prefers Modified Live Vaccines because they are cheap to produce and they have a much higher profit margin than killed virus vaccines.

I pretty well know when Flu season is going to begin where we live when Walmart begins offering flu shots, everyone begins getting sick with the flu within a few days of the vaccinations begining, even when no one was sick with the flu when the vaccinations began. The reason is simple, people getting the shot are shedding virulent virus, that is either getting themselves, or the people around them sick....

My grandfather was a doctor and he always warned us against Modified Live Vaccines...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/09/2012 11:31 AM
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I feel sorry for the healtch care worker who gets caught between following ther Feds order, and possibly being killed by an angry parent. The death statistics surrounding vaccines are going to go up.
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I don't. Health care workers should no better than to murder and harm people's kids whether government orders them to or not.
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I feel sorry for the healtch care worker who gets caught between following ther Feds order, and possibly being killed by an angry parent. The death statistics surrounding vaccines are going to go up.
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I don't. Health care workers should no better than to murder and harm people's kids whether government orders them to or not.
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know better, sorry what a lazy typo
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This is just another reason Home Schooling should be considered, if they don't have access to your kids, they can't fuck them up...

That should be the parents job!!!

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/09/2012 11:33 AM
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