Vaccination Risk Awareness Thread

My wife and I haven't fully made up our minds on vaccines and their links to causing some of these diseases. We do, however, both believe that there is a very real possibility that some people may be a tad more predisposed to these diseases and all it takes is that extra little "push" to send them over the edge, releasing it as such through a temporarily weakened immune system or unforeseen allergic reaction. The debate is still out, obviously, but until there is more research done to determine the root to some of these conditional diseases I'm gonna keep the needles out of my kids.

"The decline in infectious diseases in developed countries had nothing to do with vaccinations, but with the decline in poverty and hunger."--Dr Buchwald, M.D.

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.


there was a continuing decline in the annual death rate from smallpox, with a reduction in mortality of roughly 300 per million to virtually 0, taking place in the 60 year period following the middle of the last century. This table further illustrates that the progressive rate of decline was severely disrupted--with a roughly 275 percent increase in mortality from the disease--occurring immediately after smallpox vaccination laws were enforced.


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Good information thanks

9, Guillian Barre Syndrome

^^^THIS^^^ is the most intelligent response to the "Vaccine" issue I've read on GLP!

Well said - our kids were not vaccinated and are rarely ill. Probably the healthiest kids on their peer group !

Have a look.... [link to truedemocracyparty.net]

Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 12/09/2012 01:00 PM

There is no debate idiot, don't you know almost EVERYTHING here is to slowly kill you!! They give it to you in small amounts so it won't be so obvious what their goal is, which of course is obvious its to kill you off, never heard of population control? We're in a huge laboratory called earth and we're all the laboratory mice being examined and expirmented on.

This tone of voice won't help to get your arguments through. Also, please stop panicking.
The first step to improve our chances is to overcome fear.

Last Edited by emerald_glow on 12/09/2012 01:27 PM

My sister is having a baby and I told her about vaccines. I'm only 19 so know nothing about a baby. When do they vaccinate the baby and how do you tell te doctor no.

We're currentlydoing the same. We're doing more research about vaccination before we vaccinate our 3 month old. We're thinking that theres a couple that we will do such as the polio, but we will not be doing it until she is older.

Look how hard they are pushing their crappy flu vaccination this year. And they are saying this season is going to be bad. HA!!! They say this every year to get people to take flu vaccines they don't need.

And then a doctor usually chimes in saying that the flu vaccine does not completely prevent the flu because of the different strains. Of course, but not many listen to these doctors!

Anyone here reading this post that has any info on Swiss company Roche , makers of Tami-Flu , please contact me. PM.
I am the poster above who put (9) Guillian Barre Syndrome. How do I know this. Because I'm one of the unlucky bastard 1-100000 who got it from taking Tami-Flu ( prescribed to me from an NHS healthline over the phone ) at the height of the Swine Fly epidemic in 09.
To cut a very long story short. Within 24 hours of symptoms starting , I ended up literally mins from death. I was paralysed from the shoulders down for 8 weeks. 3 years later I still have major problems. I now suffer from Guillian Barre Syndrome.
The British press are also slowly but surely exposing the truth on this matter , but I really need you guys to help. As I said above , anyone with any info pleas please please get in touch. It's going to be an impossible task for me to try and take on such a company as Roche but that's the kinda guy I am. I will not give up without a fight. They've ruined my life. I want my day in court. I want my JUSTICE !!!!!

Look who likes to invest in vaccines

[link to www.nytimes.com]

I did not realize the risks of vaccines until my 2 month old son had a reaction to his first 6 shots, which they did all at one time. Boy do I still feel like a dumbass for thinking it "was no big deal" to get it done. His legs became swollen, one was twice its size, and he had seizures (that would continue to happen at random for @ the next 6 months)and he cried all that night like he was in terrible pain. The doctor was not concerned!She wouldn't report it either. That was my big red flag. My son hasn't had shots since, he is almost 3 and still has a large red scar on one of his legs from one of the shots.

Also: when they give multiple shots at once, it makes it near impossible to know which gave a reaction. I have no idea which vaccine caused it- so the best defense now is to not give him any. He hasn't been sick either.

I would change doctors and I would tell her why.

We never went back to her after that. In fact I printed out the growth charts from the CDC websites and start keeping track of their growth/development at home. They are healthy, so I don't feel the need to take them to the doctor. If they get sick I will take them.

Tami-Flu IS NOT A VACCINE

What is it then if not an oral vaccine.

An ativiral medication. Not a vaccine. supposed to lesson the effects. There is no cure for influenza. Tamiflu has been used against bird flu as a kind of preventative medicine, has side effects, but can't cause GB as far as I am aware of.
I read that it has some suicidal effects on teens in asia, but don't know if it was ever proven. I have some but havent taken it.

30 year government cover-up of vaccine dangers revealed in UK freedom of information request

Thread: 30 year cover-up of vaccine dangers exposed in UK government transcripts

“Vaccines didn’t save us” (a.k.a. “vaccines don’t work”): Intellectual dishonesty at its most naked

[link to www.sciencebasedmedicine.org]

How do you tell a doctor NO ?
Hmmm, you grab the needle out of his hand and yell "NOOO!" while jabbing him in the butt with it and see how he likes it.
Just kidding.
I was a little too late telling my doctor " No" because my son was already vaccine injured when I told the doctor there would be no more vaccines. He didn't give me a hard time about it since my son was already showing signs of autism. I wish I had said "No" sooner, but there's always a feeling like "this only happens to other people, it won't happen to my child", then when it does, it's quite a shock.
I'd say all children are better off without poisons injected into their bloodstream.

(I found a bunch of helpful links)

Thread: If Vaccines don't cause Autism why is it a side effect listed on the package insert with the FDA!

The 11 most toxic vaccine ingredients and their side effects:
[link to www.naturaltruth.co.uk]

Monkeys Get Autism-like Reactions to MMR & Other Vaccines In University of Pittsburgh Vaccine Study:
[link to vactruth.com]

The "science" behind 'Herd immunity'....
[link to gaia-health.com]

Proof vaccines didn't save us:
[link to genesgreenbook.com]

Merck accused of lying about vaccine effectiveness:
[link to articles.mercola.com]

Why Did the Wall Street Journal Bury the Merck Fraud Story? [link to articles.mercola.com]

Whooping cough spreads through the vaccine itself:
[link to articles.mercola.com]

Whooping cough outbreaks higher among already vaccinated children:
[link to www.naturalnews.com]

9 Questions That Stump Every Pro-Vaccine Advocate and Their Claims:
[link to www.in5d.com]

NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children:
[link to rense.com]

Our little AIDS patients:
[link to viralsepidemic.com]

Great video OP; I have posted this before on similar threads on vaccines. Bottom line: vaccines are slow kill/debilitating bio-weapons to sicken the population. The vaccine manufacturers make large profits from fear-mongered, labarotary cooked up diseases. The eugenicists push these vaccines to serve the above agenda as well as to soft kill off large portions of the world's population (and cause infertility). Lastly, a population suffering from chronic maladies (caused by fill-in-the-blank vaccine) make even larger profits for the medical industrial complex.

Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 12/09/2012 04:09 PM

You need to tell your doctor before the baby is delivered, no vacinations. they will try to vacinate right when the child is born. and put pressure on you when you under duress

cytokine storm
[link to www.wisegeek.com]

If you don't know what it is...you had better learn about the cytokine storm and some vaccinations!

The Ultimate Gamble: Do Childhood Vaccines Result in Genetic Hybridization from Alien Human and Animal DNA Contents?
[link to vactruth.com]

"For those who have not already investigated vaccine contents, the following adjuvants and ingredients have been documented:
■Acetone (solvent used in fingernail polish remover)
■Aluminum hydroxide
■Aluminum phosphate
■Aluminum sulfate
■Amphotericin B
■Animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
■Dog kidney, monkey kidney
■Chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
■Calf (bovine) serum
■Betapropiolactone
■Fetal bovine serum
■Formaldehyde
■Formalin
■Gelatin
■Glycerol
■Human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
■Hydrolyzed gelatin
■Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
■Neomycin (antibiotic)
■Neomycin sulfate
■Phenol red indicator
■phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
■potassium diphosphate
■potassium monophosphate
■polymyxin B
■polysorbate 20
■polysorbate 80
■porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
■residual MRC5 proteins
■sorbitol
■sucrose
■streptomycin (antibiotic)
■thimerosal (mercury)
■tri(n)butylphosphate (neurotoxin)
■VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
■Washed sheep red blood cells

Aluminum, a neurotoxin, is associated with Alzheimer’s disease and seizures.

Formaldehyde is a known cancer-causing agent commonly used to embalm corpses.

Glycerin, a tri-atomic alcohol extracted from natural fats which are putrified and decomposed, has known toxic effects including kidney, liver, and lung damage, dieresis, pronounced local tissue damage, gastrointestinal damage, death.

Neomycin and streptomycin (antibiotics) are known to case allergic reactions.

Phenol (carbolic acid is a deadly poison, a common disinfectant and dye.)

Phenyethanol is known to depress the central nervous system and may cause vomiting and diarrhea. (FDA)

Thimerosal (a mercury derivative) is a toxic heavy metal that is not easily eliminated from the body. Metal toxicity can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease.

Oil adjuvants are known to cause hypersensitivity reactions, cysts, and adjuvant arthritis.



In 2000, Congress strongly recommended that the pharmaceutical companies take the thimerosal out of vaccines (It was not mandated, simply recommended). The drug companies were not told to take the existing lots off the market. The recommendation only applied to new product lines…

Consumer goods are recalled, redesigned, or required to display warning danger labels when they contain toxic ingredients or cause accidents. When cancer causing agents are found in foods, the foods are often banned and/or a warning label must be displayed on the packages. Vaccines have a different (much lower) standard for safety."

(NOTE: Thimerosal is still in the flu vaccine)

OK I will be the lone wolf on this one.
At this point, I do not believe the vaccination conspiracy hype. Vaccinations have NEVER caused any problems for me or any member of my family.

My children received all recommended vaccinations and have always received near top test scores in school. I see nor have never seen any ill effects to speak of.

I have never had a bad reaction to a flu shot and my health is excellent.

As for the conspiracy of population reduction, killing people slowing only costs more and uses more resources. The elites have nothing to gain by giving people autism and alzheimers. Plus, doing it through vaccines gives them no real control over who is or is not affected. That doesn't make sense.

If there is a plan out there to drastically reduce the world population, I don't think this is or would be one of their methods. It will be more directly targeted toward "certain" groups of people.

I don't know what causes Autism, but I just don't think it's vaccines..although, I'm open to the possibility of it being a contributing factor along with "something else" not yet identified.

Very few of us have any idea what it was like to live when diseases like Polio, smallpox, whooping cough were common or the toll they really took.

At least do some research before making such a rash decision not to vaccinate your kids.

I think we need to look at this objectively before putting our kids at unnecessary risk.

Another example I can give is a handful of bacterial meningitis cases in my area about 3 years ago. 2 deaths and the one that lived has permanent disabilities. This is vaccine preventable. I don't think any potential side effects from a vaccine could have been worse than what ultimately happened.