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How the government plans to destroy small online business!

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/09/2012 05:07 PM
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mother f'er, why cant government just keep their noses out of shit. here ya go liberals, more of your view on government in action.
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12/09/2012 05:08 PM
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It sucks. But it seems the main opposition to this is not "small" online business--it's big ones like Amazon.

Small businesses that do business offline are subject to state sales taxes anyway. Why aren't you crying for them?
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People buy locally because it's fast and convenient, so they don't lose out totally because there is always going to be people that are impatient and people that don't use computers. These same businesses always have the option of selling online, and if they don't in the year 2013, then they shouldn't be in business.

People buy online because it's cheap, and people have the choice of anywhere in the world to buy from.

Now wrap your head around the fact that other countries aren't going to report sales, and they will be the cheapest option because no added tax. Stuff would be flooding in from Canada, Mexico and China, and some businesses would just leave the US because there would be increased sales from outside the US.
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12/09/2012 05:15 PM
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Thanks for the pin! Yes I think this is a small part of the big picture of controlling the Internet. I happen to be the owner of a small online business and I can tell you right now this would be a HUGE burden on me at this point. So as for the comment on a "group that opposes".... All online business owners should and probably do oppose this'
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How will it be a burden on you? If you use paypal, for instance, you just figure the tax for each state and it automatically adds @ purchase.
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PayPal will add it to the purchase, but I would still have to keep track of the tax PayPal collected for the 49 states other than my own, and send them the tax collected at the end of each quarter. Add to that the local option sales taxes and other special sales taxes that states and counties add and it will be a nightmare.

I sell to all 50 states and this scares the hell out of me.
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12/09/2012 05:27 PM
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The States get a lot of money from sales tax. That money doesn't go to the Feds. State are losing out because chain store are basically just becoming showrooms for people to look and then go home and buy it online. The States want that money back and all of them sooner or later will tax internet sales. It's not the Fed it's your State.
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12/09/2012 05:29 PM
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bitcoin and anonymous transactions is where all this is headed. Sooner or later, some bright person is going to find a way set up an amazon style site, which will really all be on your PC via peer to peer, and all the online retailers are going to move to that structure. Amazon will go out of business as everyone shifts their buying and selling peer to peer.
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CIA is all over that shit. Use the two words in a google search.
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12/09/2012 05:35 PM
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The States get a lot of money from sales tax. That money doesn't go to the Feds. State are losing out because chain store are basically just becoming showrooms for people to look and then go home and buy it online. The States want that money back and all of them sooner or later will tax internet sales. It's not the Fed it's your State.
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I'm not against the states collecting sales taxes, I am against the states using me as an unpaid tax collector for them. Keeping track of one state is bad enough, but add 49 more to the mix and it is too much of a burdon. Online sales are taxed now, but it is up to the purchaser to get the forms and send the money to the state, not the out of state merchant.
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12/09/2012 05:36 PM
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Why should we the working man pay tax and companys online dodge it ?, shops on the high street have to pay tax on a sale. And then the next second your going to moan that your paying to much tax, its because companys dodge it, so you have to pay more.

Its a bit like Starbucks in the Uk, they have dodged tax here for years, the people are now fed up with it so the gov is telling them to pay up or get out.

You want a level playing field then moan when your govs try to do it to save you the burden.
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12/09/2012 05:38 PM
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Thanks for the pin! Yes I think this is a small part of the big picture of controlling the Internet. I happen to be the owner of a small online business and I can tell you right now this would be a HUGE burden on me at this point. So as for the comment on a "group that opposes".... All online business owners should and probably do oppose this'
 Quoting: MyAffliction



How will it be a burden on you? If you use paypal, for instance, you just figure the tax for each state and it automatically adds @ purchase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12876915


PayPal will add it to the purchase, but I would still have to keep track of the tax PayPal collected for the 49 states other than my own, and send them the tax collected at the end of each quarter. Add to that the local option sales taxes and other special sales taxes that states and counties add and it will be a nightmare.

I sell to all 50 states and this scares the hell out of me.
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Why does it scare you ?. Basicly you have dodged sales tax for years is what you are saying.
Copperhead

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12/09/2012 05:53 PM
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Thanks for the pin! Yes I think this is a small part of the big picture of controlling the Internet. I happen to be the owner of a small online business and I can tell you right now this would be a HUGE burden on me at this point. So as for the comment on a "group that opposes".... All online business owners should and probably do oppose this'
 Quoting: MyAffliction



How will it be a burden on you? If you use paypal, for instance, you just figure the tax for each state and it automatically adds @ purchase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12876915


PayPal will add it to the purchase, but I would still have to keep track of the tax PayPal collected for the 49 states other than my own, and send them the tax collected at the end of each quarter. Add to that the local option sales taxes and other special sales taxes that states and counties add and it will be a nightmare.

I sell to all 50 states and this scares the hell out of me.
 Quoting: Copperhead


Why does it scare you ?. Basicly you have dodged sales tax for years is what you are saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29093026



I have not dodged sales taxes, I just have not been forced to COLLECT what is owed by the consumers in their states. I collect Iowa sales taxes because that is where I manufacture product and have a physical presence. I sell in Iowa and I collect taxes as an unpaid tax collector in my state and send them to the state government every quarter.

If the states want to pay me my shop rate for the time I have to spend being their forced agent I could go along with it. Lets say it takes me 3hrs per quarter for each state. That would be $12,750 worth of my time, and time lost manufacturing my products. In a year it would be $51,000 of lost productivity.

I take it you have never had a small business and had to keep track of things like sales taxes, with the threat of fines and jail time for failing to comply to the letter of the law.
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12/09/2012 05:54 PM
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Why should we the working man pay tax and companys online dodge it ?, shops on the high street have to pay tax on a sale. And then the next second your going to moan that your paying to much tax, its because companys dodge it, so you have to pay more.

Its a bit like Starbucks in the Uk, they have dodged tax here for years, the people are now fed up with it so the gov is telling them to pay up or get out.

You want a level playing field then moan when your govs try to do it to save you the burden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29093026


Why should the working man pay tax at all? the US $ is the global reserve currency, did you know that?
They can,and do, print as much as they like, it is all bullsh**t.
Google 'who owns the federal reserve' or 'us dollar reserve currency'. they create money out of thin air, backed by nothing so why is 'the working man paying taxes'?
It is all a scam but you are too thick in the head to learn about it, sorry mate.
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12/09/2012 06:03 PM
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I'm here for the gang bang...
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12/09/2012 06:16 PM

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All businesses including online, already pay taxes. So what is this about?

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