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Are Holocaust deniers uneducated or just plain unpleasant?

 
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how 1.5 million jews became 6 million, then were exterminated, leaving (surprize) 1.5 million = halohoax.however over 200 MILLION Chcristians butchered in communist revolutions = real halocost. communism is the philosophy of one mordechai levy a.k.a. carl marx so, yes halocost denial goes on...no monuments...no museums to the 200 million....the denial goes on.
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There are plenty of monuments and plenty of museum exhibitions for those other millions murdered. The fact that you choose to ignore that doesn't mean they are not there. It simply means you are a fucking retard.


(I don't know where you get 200 million from but from the sounds of it you need meds)
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Have you ever asked yourself, why you question it instead of researching it? Have you EVER followed history classes and learned how to appropriately value sources?
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Ok let me school you..

Have you read Rudolf Hoess' (Camp commandant of Auschwitz)testimony at the Nuremberg trials ?. (these gave bearing on the numbers of j-ews killed)

[link to www.fordham.edu]

So then WHY would they in 1990 change the plaque outside Auschwitz to one giving a lesser number for those that perished there.
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My last reply to you because you are just another fucking retard attention whore;

[link to www.chgs.umn.edu]

From that website:

Holocaust deniers have been quick to use the revised Polish figures on Auschwitz as a means of diminishing the number of victims or claiming falsification. This is an incorrect analysis as numbers based on pre-war population records and German records themselves from killing units in the field (such as Einsatgruppen in USSR) attest to figures of Jewish victimization around 6 million.
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There you go. "school me"? Lol, go school yourself before trying to school anyone else, idiot.


SO, from your source approx 3 million j-ews died in all concentration camps.

So 6 million j-ews did not die in gas chambers....which is what I asked you earlier.
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Read this thread...

Thread: DIRTY LITTLE SECRET ABOUT WORLD WAR I, HITLER, WORLD WAR II, ZIONISM...(***MUST READ!!!***)
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Have you ever asked yourself, why you question it instead of researching it? Have you EVER followed history classes and learned how to appropriately value sources?
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Ok let me school you..

Have you read Rudolf Hoess' (Camp commandant of Auschwitz)testimony at the Nuremberg trials ?. (these gave bearing on the numbers of j-ews killed)

[link to www.fordham.edu]

So then WHY would they in 1990 change the plaque outside Auschwitz to one giving a lesser number for those that perished there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26473972


My last reply to you because you are just another fucking retard attention whore;

[link to www.chgs.umn.edu]

From that website:

Holocaust deniers have been quick to use the revised Polish figures on Auschwitz as a means of diminishing the number of victims or claiming falsification. This is an incorrect analysis as numbers based on pre-war population records and German records themselves from killing units in the field (such as Einsatgruppen in USSR) attest to figures of Jewish victimization around 6 million.
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There you go. "school me"? Lol, go school yourself before trying to school anyone else, idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26473972


SO, from your source approx 3 million j-ews died in all concentration camps.

So 6 million j-ews did not die in gas chambers....which is what I asked you earlier.


I really did wonder if you're being intentionally retarded and stupid, now I'm not wondering anymore, I'm certain your retardation is out of your control and you're just a braindead idiot.

from that very same link:

[link to www.chgs.umn.edu]

"Totals number of Jewish victims
5,700,000 - 5,860,000 "

Yet you still don't see the idiocy in your question.
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Wow, yeah,

paranoid schizophrenics making up conspiracy theories is really going to convince an intellectual.

Idiot.
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Wow, yeah,

paranoid schizophrenics making up conspiracy theories is really going to convince an intellectual.

Idiot.
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Afraid to read it? So you'd rather be blissfully ignorant?
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iamwith

You're on your own. But perhaps you derive a sense of companionship from your obsessions?

Truly idiotic, but a great host....
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Ok let me school you..

Have you read Rudolf Hoess' (Camp commandant of Auschwitz)testimony at the Nuremberg trials ?. (these gave bearing on the numbers of j-ews killed)

[link to www.fordham.edu]

So then WHY would they in 1990 change the plaque outside Auschwitz to one giving a lesser number for those that perished there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26473972


My last reply to you because you are just another fucking retard attention whore;

[link to www.chgs.umn.edu]

From that website:

Holocaust deniers have been quick to use the revised Polish figures on Auschwitz as a means of diminishing the number of victims or claiming falsification. This is an incorrect analysis as numbers based on pre-war population records and German records themselves from killing units in the field (such as Einsatgruppen in USSR) attest to figures of Jewish victimization around 6 million.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


There you go. "school me"? Lol, go school yourself before trying to school anyone else, idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26473972


SO, from your source approx 3 million j-ews died in all concentration camps.

So 6 million j-ews did not die in gas chambers....which is what I asked you earlier.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


I really did wonder if you're being intentionally retarded and stupid, now I'm not wondering anymore, I'm certain your retardation is out of your control and you're just a braindead idiot.

from that very same link:

[link to www.chgs.umn.edu]

"Totals number of Jewish victims
5,700,000 - 5,860,000 "

Yet you still don't see the idiocy in your question.


No, I'm clearly reading from your link.... Numbers: Death camps.

Total fatalities 2,857,000 - 3,139,000



Sooo, how many died from disease and starvation and how many died from gas chambers ?????

Definitely not 6 million.
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Wow, yeah,

paranoid schizophrenics making up conspiracy theories is really going to convince an intellectual.

Idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


I have no power to foist conspiracy theories on the public. All I can do is state facts, and cite evidence.

In order to foist conspiracy theories on the public, there must be the means ($$$, and control of the avenues of information dissemination -- Hollywood, media, publishing houses, academia), and the motivation (creation of the state of Israel, and the perpetuation of "victim" status, resulting in a monetary windfall).
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Yeah, I know I'm quoting Wikipedia here but come on you morans...there are still idiots out there that deny the Holocaust even occured?!

So I'm thinking, what makes these people think this way? Are they nasty and unpleasant or are they uneducated, uninformed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


A bit of both me thinks. OP, below a good link for the people who claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that a mere couple 3-4 hundred thousand Jews died because of sickess and starvation (caused by the Allied bombing of Germany instead of those "noble" Germans who really treated them well).

[link to www.nizkor.org]

Special mention to this, a audio recording of a speach of Heinrich Himmler himself during a Nazi meeting at Poznan in 43. Very funny that "revisionists" claim this audio tape is a forgery, not Himmler himself, although to this day not one single Nazi, not 1!, who was present at the Poznan meeting has come forward and claim Himmler didn't make this speach.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.holocaust-history.org]
 Quoting: Dutch 1568275


Do you really think a German would come forward and contest that? What would be the benefit of doing so for him after all these years? You don't think he'd not only be an absolute social pariah, but also probably face imprisonment. And for what benefit to him? Come on. Use your noggin. The average German today wants nothing more than to move on from that time period; not remained mired in it. Of COURSE no German who was there is going to publicly contest that audio. Not to mention, most of them are now dead, having died fighting defending Germany in the last months, in Ike's concentration camps after the war, or from old age since the end of the war.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


How convenient Thor. Here is some hard evidence, and you want us to believe Germans didn't bother to come forward and deny that after all these years.

Too bad this speech was used as evidence against Nazi's present at the meeting during the Nuremburg trials, so it would have been certainly in their interest to deny it if it was false.

Also, an extract from Goebbels diary, referring directly to this speech:In an entry dated 9 October 1943, Goebbels commented on Himmler's second speech, at which he was present:[35]

Regarding the Jewish question, he [Himmler] gives a very unadorned and frank picture. He is of the conviction that the Jewish question can be solved by the end of this year. He advocates the most radical and most severe solution, namely to exterminate Jewry, bag and baggage. Of course, if brutal, this is a consistent solution. Because we must take on the responsibility of entirely solving this question in our time. Subsequent generations will doubtlessly no longer dare address this problem with the courage and obsession as we are able to do today.

And how about the testimonies by former SS members, who voluntarily gave evidence for the holocaust, although no charges had been made against them?
See my first link,
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Regarding postwar testimony from Nazis, were they all tortured into confessing to heinous crimes which they supposedly did not commit? This might be believable if only a few Nazis were captured after the war, or maybe if some had courageously stood up in court and shouted to the world about the supposed attempt to silence them. But hundreds testified regarding the Holocaust, in trials dating from late 1945 until the 1960s. (For example, see Böck, Hofmann, Hössler, Klein, Münch, and Stark.)

Many of these Nazis testified as witnesses and were not accused of crimes. What was the basis for their supposed coercion?

Many of these trials were in German courts. Did the Germans torture their own countrymen? Well, Holocaust-deniers sometimes claim that the Jews have secretly infiltrated the German government and control everything about it. They prefer not to talk too much about this theory, however, because it is clearly on the lunatic fringe.

The main point is that not one of these supposed torture victims -- in fifty years, not one -- has come forth to support the claim that testimony was coerced.

On the contrary, confirmation and reconfirmation of their testimony has continued across the years. What coercion could have convinced Judge Konrad Morgen to testify to the crimes he witnessed at the International Nuremberg Trial in 1946, where he was not accused of any crime? And to later testify at the Auschwitz trial at Frankfurt, Germany, in 1963-65? What coercion was applied to SS Doctor Johann Kremer to make him testify in his own defense in 1947, and then, after having been convicted in both Poland and Germany, emerge after his release to testify again as a witness at the Frankfurt trial? What coercion was applied to Böck, Gerhard Hess, Hölblinger, Storch, and Wiebeck, all former SS men, all witnesses at Frankfurt, none accused of any crime there?

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Please explain the testimonies of these Nazi's.
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Basically, all holocaust deniers are either liberals or Muslims. In either case the holocaust is a stumbling block for their religion.
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Allow me to give an example of the propaganda of the concentration camps used by "western mass media" since WWII. The records of most of the concentration camps were held by the USSR in secret. Thus, Zionist propagandists in the West could make up any numbers they wanted. Who would question it? The records couldn't be gotten to. With the fall of the USSR in 1991, the International Red Cross took control of the records from the concentration camps in the eastern bloc -- mostly in Poland. Between 1945 and 1991, organized radical jewry claimed that 4 million jewish people were murdered at the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp. The records to prove this claim were held by the highly secretive Soviet Union. When the Int'l Red Cross got a hold of the records in 1991, it was discovered that: 1) about 400,000 people died at Auschwitz. Notice 3 things here: 1) the amount of deaths were incredibly less; 2) those who died were NOT JUST jewish people, but people from all backgrounds, and 3) they DIED; they weren't murdered. Organized radical jewry went ballistic. They need the high numbers to exacerbate their self-annointed victimhood status. They refused to acknowledge the lower numbers. The Intl Red Cross argued that the facts are the facts. The outcome? A compromise! This is a perfect example of how history as we're told is NOT necessarily (rarely) truth. Even though the proof is there regarding how many people died at Auschwitz-Birkenau, because of the great influence of organized radical (Zionist) jewry, they had to compromise. The new plaque at Auschwitz-Birkenau has the "compromise" number of 1.2 millions death of jewish people...and others. So organized radical jewry won a victory in that the word MILLION remained, as did the word jewish people. Think of that. The number was reduced (even with the compromise) from 4 million to 1.2 million. That's a difference of 2.8 million deaths. Yet, the number "6 million" remains the total. And we're still told 6 million jewish people were executed. It's absolute bunk. Absolute lies.
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iamwith

You're on your own. But perhaps you derive a sense of companionship from your obsessions?

Truly idiotic, but a great host....
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On my own? Does that make the truth worth less to you?

Even if it was one of me and a million of you I would still be on the side of the truth. And that makes my stance more powerful than a million of you liars and deceivers.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Yeah, I know I'm quoting Wikipedia here but come on you morans...there are still idiots out there that deny the Holocaust even occured?!

So I'm thinking, what makes these people think this way? Are they nasty and unpleasant or are they uneducated, uninformed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


A bit of both me thinks. OP, below a good link for the people who claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that a mere couple 3-4 hundred thousand Jews died because of sickess and starvation (caused by the Allied bombing of Germany instead of those "noble" Germans who really treated them well).

[link to www.nizkor.org]

Special mention to this, a audio recording of a speach of Heinrich Himmler himself during a Nazi meeting at Poznan in 43. Very funny that "revisionists" claim this audio tape is a forgery, not Himmler himself, although to this day not one single Nazi, not 1!, who was present at the Poznan meeting has come forward and claim Himmler didn't make this speach.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.holocaust-history.org]
 Quoting: Dutch 1568275


Do you really think a German would come forward and contest that? What would be the benefit of doing so for him after all these years? You don't think he'd not only be an absolute social pariah, but also probably face imprisonment. And for what benefit to him? Come on. Use your noggin. The average German today wants nothing more than to move on from that time period; not remained mired in it. Of COURSE no German who was there is going to publicly contest that audio. Not to mention, most of them are now dead, having died fighting defending Germany in the last months, in Ike's concentration camps after the war, or from old age since the end of the war.
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How convenient Thor. Here is some hard evidence, and you want us to believe Germans didn't bother to come forward and deny that after all these years.

Too bad this speech was used as evidence against Nazi's present at the meeting during the Nuremburg trials, so it would have been certainly in their interest to deny it if it was false.

Also, an extract from Goebbels diary, referring directly to this speech:In an entry dated 9 October 1943, Goebbels commented on Himmler's second speech, at which he was present:[35]

Regarding the Jewish question, he [Himmler] gives a very unadorned and frank picture. He is of the conviction that the Jewish question can be solved by the end of this year. He advocates the most radical and most severe solution, namely to exterminate Jewry, bag and baggage. Of course, if brutal, this is a consistent solution. Because we must take on the responsibility of entirely solving this question in our time. Subsequent generations will doubtlessly no longer dare address this problem with the courage and obsession as we are able to do today.

And how about the testimonies by former SS members, who voluntarily gave evidence for the holocaust, although no charges had been made against them?
See my first link,
------------------------------------------------------------

Regarding postwar testimony from Nazis, were they all tortured into confessing to heinous crimes which they supposedly did not commit? This might be believable if only a few Nazis were captured after the war, or maybe if some had courageously stood up in court and shouted to the world about the supposed attempt to silence them. But hundreds testified regarding the Holocaust, in trials dating from late 1945 until the 1960s. (For example, see Böck, Hofmann, Hössler, Klein, Münch, and Stark.)

Many of these Nazis testified as witnesses and were not accused of crimes. What was the basis for their supposed coercion?

Many of these trials were in German courts. Did the Germans torture their own countrymen? Well, Holocaust-deniers sometimes claim that the Jews have secretly infiltrated the German government and control everything about it. They prefer not to talk too much about this theory, however, because it is clearly on the lunatic fringe.

The main point is that not one of these supposed torture victims -- in fifty years, not one -- has come forth to support the claim that testimony was coerced.

On the contrary, confirmation and reconfirmation of their testimony has continued across the years. What coercion could have convinced Judge Konrad Morgen to testify to the crimes he witnessed at the International Nuremberg Trial in 1946, where he was not accused of any crime? And to later testify at the Auschwitz trial at Frankfurt, Germany, in 1963-65? What coercion was applied to SS Doctor Johann Kremer to make him testify in his own defense in 1947, and then, after having been convicted in both Poland and Germany, emerge after his release to testify again as a witness at the Frankfurt trial? What coercion was applied to Böck, Gerhard Hess, Hölblinger, Storch, and Wiebeck, all former SS men, all witnesses at Frankfurt, none accused of any crime there?

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Please explain the testimonies of these Nazi's.
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You're being too kind to these asswipes.
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The Holocaust is the biggest lie of the century, and it's also one of the best ideas!
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Basically, all holocaust deniers are either liberals or Muslims. In either case the holocaust is a stumbling block for their religion.
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Come on now, lets have specifics.

Do you believe 6 million j-ews were systematically led to gas chambers and then cremated ?
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A bit of both me thinks. OP, below a good link for the people who claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that a mere couple 3-4 hundred thousand Jews died because of sickess and starvation (caused by the Allied bombing of Germany instead of those "noble" Germans who really treated them well).

[link to www.nizkor.org]

Special mention to this, a audio recording of a speach of Heinrich Himmler himself during a Nazi meeting at Poznan in 43. Very funny that "revisionists" claim this audio tape is a forgery, not Himmler himself, although to this day not one single Nazi, not 1!, who was present at the Poznan meeting has come forward and claim Himmler didn't make this speach.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.holocaust-history.org]
 Quoting: Dutch 1568275


Do you really think a German would come forward and contest that? What would be the benefit of doing so for him after all these years? You don't think he'd not only be an absolute social pariah, but also probably face imprisonment. And for what benefit to him? Come on. Use your noggin. The average German today wants nothing more than to move on from that time period; not remained mired in it. Of COURSE no German who was there is going to publicly contest that audio. Not to mention, most of them are now dead, having died fighting defending Germany in the last months, in Ike's concentration camps after the war, or from old age since the end of the war.
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How convenient Thor. Here is some hard evidence, and you want us to believe Germans didn't bother to come forward and deny that after all these years.

Too bad this speech was used as evidence against Nazi's present at the meeting during the Nuremburg trials, so it would have been certainly in their interest to deny it if it was false.

Also, an extract from Goebbels diary, referring directly to this speech:In an entry dated 9 October 1943, Goebbels commented on Himmler's second speech, at which he was present:[35]

Regarding the Jewish question, he [Himmler] gives a very unadorned and frank picture. He is of the conviction that the Jewish question can be solved by the end of this year. He advocates the most radical and most severe solution, namely to exterminate Jewry, bag and baggage. Of course, if brutal, this is a consistent solution. Because we must take on the responsibility of entirely solving this question in our time. Subsequent generations will doubtlessly no longer dare address this problem with the courage and obsession as we are able to do today.

And how about the testimonies by former SS members, who voluntarily gave evidence for the holocaust, although no charges had been made against them?
See my first link,
------------------------------------------------------------

Regarding postwar testimony from Nazis, were they all tortured into confessing to heinous crimes which they supposedly did not commit? This might be believable if only a few Nazis were captured after the war, or maybe if some had courageously stood up in court and shouted to the world about the supposed attempt to silence them. But hundreds testified regarding the Holocaust, in trials dating from late 1945 until the 1960s. (For example, see Böck, Hofmann, Hössler, Klein, Münch, and Stark.)

Many of these Nazis testified as witnesses and were not accused of crimes. What was the basis for their supposed coercion?

Many of these trials were in German courts. Did the Germans torture their own countrymen? Well, Holocaust-deniers sometimes claim that the Jews have secretly infiltrated the German government and control everything about it. They prefer not to talk too much about this theory, however, because it is clearly on the lunatic fringe.

The main point is that not one of these supposed torture victims -- in fifty years, not one -- has come forth to support the claim that testimony was coerced.

On the contrary, confirmation and reconfirmation of their testimony has continued across the years. What coercion could have convinced Judge Konrad Morgen to testify to the crimes he witnessed at the International Nuremberg Trial in 1946, where he was not accused of any crime? And to later testify at the Auschwitz trial at Frankfurt, Germany, in 1963-65? What coercion was applied to SS Doctor Johann Kremer to make him testify in his own defense in 1947, and then, after having been convicted in both Poland and Germany, emerge after his release to testify again as a witness at the Frankfurt trial? What coercion was applied to Böck, Gerhard Hess, Hölblinger, Storch, and Wiebeck, all former SS men, all witnesses at Frankfurt, none accused of any crime there?

----------------------------------------------------------

Please explain the testimonies of these Nazi's.
 Quoting: Dutch 1568275



You're being too kind to these asswipes.
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I'll refer you two pricks back to my earlier post re Rudolf Hoess testimony and how the change of plaque at Auschwitz proves it was false.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Yeah, I know I'm quoting Wikipedia here but come on you morans...there are still idiots out there that deny the Holocaust even occured?!

So I'm thinking, what makes these people think this way? Are they nasty and unpleasant or are they uneducated, uninformed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17601732


There are many viable reasons why people donot believe the Holycost Industry:

The most important reasons is that itis German History and doesnot concern them, nor their Nation.

The next viable reason is that itis a disgusting lie-for-profit.

Three strikes and youare out:
Jews werenot the only people that got hurt in that war, but the Jews care only about their selfish selves and never mention the misery of others that went through that war, plus they never thank us for saving their sorry, selfish butts, and even sued us for not getting there sooner.

There are many other reasons why people are sick of hearing this whining sound coming from the parasitic, murdering liars, the children of Satan, according to Jesus in John 8:44:

In John 8:44 Jesus speaks to the Jews:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jew tried this same Holycost trick before in 1919:
Jew Holocausts On Parade:
The 1919 Holocaust that Failed
You heard about the Holocaust in which 6 million Jews were killed in Nazi Death Camps.
Did you hear about the "threatened holocaust" of 6 million Jews about 20 years earlier?
Probably not, even though a former Governor of New York wrote about it in 1919, because that early holocaust never became a best-seller.
Google this censored link: com/jew-holocaust-folder.html
And:
Google this censored link: jew-references-gentile-holocaust-claim-1919-that-failed.html


Jew Holocaust Industry Of Lies For Profit:
Google this censored link for all the heavy details and truths:
/jew-holocaust-lies-hoax-frauds-blackflagops-hoaxarchive.html​

Jews Take an Oath To Be LIARS:
"All vows" (kol nidre), it is based on the
declaration of the Talmud:-
"He who wishes that his vows and oaths shall have no
value, stand up at the beginning of the year and say:
Continued here: [link to www.americanbizopps.com]

Kol Nidre (Yom Kippur):
"All vows, obligations, oaths or anathemas, pledges of all names, which we have vowed, sworn, devoted, or bound ourselves to, from this day of atonement, until the next day of atonement (whose arrival we hope for in happiness) we repent, a forehand, of them all, they shall all be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, void and made of no effect; they shall not be binding, nor have any power; the vows shall not be reckoned as vows, the obligations shall not be obligatory, nor the oaths considered as oaths."
[link to www.americanbizopps.com]

Harold Wallace Rosenthal
Anytime truth comes forth which exposes us, we simply rally our forces -- the ignorant Christians. They attack the crusaders even if they are members of their own families.
We virtually get away with murder, and all the goy do is to talk about it, which is ineffective since we, the masters of propaganda, always publish a contradicting account.
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Christians are Instructed to Speak Truth:
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
One Tiny Example: 1 Timothy 2:7

The above may hurt your feelings, but, yes, truth does hurt, and it also sets you free from out of your slavery:
John 8:32
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32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

Another hurten, hard as nails truth, which we well deserve for ignoring Hagar and her brat all throughout our Bible studies, not to mention old Abraham‘s second floozy of a wife, and broodmare for more malcontents: Galatians 4:26:
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26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all
Sneetch

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I don't deny the holocaust, I just deny the numbers and despise Shoah business. Hell, ask anyone how many people Stalin killed and they'll sit there and say "b-but he was an ally!"
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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Basically, all holocaust deniers are either liberals or Muslims. In either case the holocaust is a stumbling block for their religion.
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Nope, there are plenty of educated formal citizens who want a closer look at the Holocaust.

You and your kind have tried to portray them as racist religious radical skin heads cooks conspiracy nuts.
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"Where did he lose/six million Jews?"

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There is not a single piece of documentation attesting to the systematic genocide of Jews in the concentration camps. Nothing. For there to be no documentation for an operation of that scale beggars belief. And don't you think there were/are certain groups who would like nothing more than to find and bring forth such proof? Yet, nothing.

The photographs and video footage of the concentration camps we're shown over and over on the Hitler...er, History Channel, show the camps upon Allied liberation. This was after months of the most intense aerial bombardment in the history of warfare of Germany and German-occupied lands, resulting in the utter destruction and obliteration of German transportation (and other) infrastructure. Roads, rail lines, bridges...destroyed. This stopped the flow of supplies within Germany and German-controlled lands to the German people, to say nothing of the concentration camp detainees. Food, clean drinking water, medicine, blankets, coal for heating...ceased. The pictures we're shown over and over of the people in the concentration camps upon liberation were a result of Allied bombardment of roads and rail lines which supplied the camps.

Incidentally, zyklon-b was used to disinfect clothes and bedding at the camps to kill fleas, the vector for the biggest killer in the camps -- typhus. And when inmates would die of typhus, their diseased bodies would be cremated in an attempt to cease its spread.

But again, the victors write the history. Germany was a completely obliterated country, at the absolute mercy of the Allies; beyond unconditional surrender. Anything and everything was used by the Allies to justify this war of massive death and destruction for domestic consumption.

For instance, at the Nuremberg Trials (publicity show trials), Allied prosecutors would blackmail lower-ranking officers to testify against their superiors (often times blatantly lying) in exchange for lesser or no sentence for the lower-ranking officers. The Allies were only concerned with the world seeing the big, household-name Germans strung up or shot. Judges routinely disallowed witnesses for the defense to testify. For the best read on this, read: "The Nuremberg Trials: The Last Battle" by David Irving.

The Germans (and their crimes) were at the complete mercy of Allied historians.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Yeah, I know I'm quoting Wikipedia here but come on you morans...there are still idiots out there that deny the Holocaust even occured?!

So I'm thinking, what makes these people think this way? Are they nasty and unpleasant or are they uneducated, uninformed?
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Their surroundings. It has A LOT to do with the older generations impression on the young folk.

And the fact that anti-semitism is STILL widespread, even though to me reading and learning about the Holocaust when I was 10 and onward, really left an impression on me. I decided if humans could be THAT evil, ignorant and unreasonable, then there must be some around today as well - even until the end of time, hiding beneath their rocks.

I just do what I can to spread correct information to, even if in the smallest amount, prevent something like the Holocaust happening again.

I also try to report their anti-semitic outbursts to the authorities because where I live that shit's illegal as it is CLEARLY racist and then some. I also cannot stand pampered little suburban assholes who claim the Holocaust never happened because they saw a youtube clip. They really deserve an asswhooping.

Oh by the way, I'm Iranian. And I can conclusively state that EVERY single Muslim(and even some non-Muslim Iranians who converted to Christianity) I've met have had bad blood towards Jewish people. While they haven't ever had the chance to meet one. Illogical? Yes. Understandable? No. Jealousy? Yes, absolutely! They are insanely jealous of Jewish people.

Worst thing is, just because I'm Iranian they assume I'm Muslim and a Jew hater, so they share their vile bullshit with me thinking I'm on their side. It pisses me off immensely to the point that I've cut contacts with many of those morons.

Which brings me to my conclusion:

They are morons. Some are ignorant waiting to be educated, we can't blame them. However, those that spread that nonsense and DON'T question what they are saying - those are some die-hard retards.
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^^^^^BWWAAHHAAA,spoken like a true zionist jew !!
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THE FACT IS...... That hitler was against the Jews because he was a racist and prejudice. He put them to work in a sustained population and gassed the ones who were I feted or he couldn't afford to maintain. In his mind,by putting the Jews to work he was getting back at them for how they manipulated and precipitated Germany into ww1 in the first place. HITLER WAS AGINST THE BANKERS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN HAVE HAPPEN. He thought that by uniting Europe under his regime he could stop the jewishbankers. He almost succeeded but even the bankers saw this as a profit opportunity that's why initially he was allowed to "win" the war in europe for a few years before the bankers decided he had to be stopped. After he bombed england they said enough,it's our turn now
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I don't deny the holocaust, I just deny the numbers and despise Shoah business. Hell, ask anyone how many people Stalin killed and they'll sit there and say "b-but he was an ally!"
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Indeed.
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SIR GC(NEW AGE SCHOLAR)

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Austhwitz and other camps like it served as population centers and work camps for the Jews. In NO WAY,were they're completely designed and built for mass killings. Those were for the unfortunate who were sick and starving
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12/11/2012 10:30 AM
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ohh god i'm so sick and tired hearing about the fucking jews and the holocaust.
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Goodbye then. Don't forget to close the door behind you.
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Yeah,don't let the oven door hit you on the ass on the way in,douche.
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Anyone wanting some serious discussion can go to this forum and find out any information you'd like to know about the Holocaust claims.

[link to forum.codoh.info]
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If Hitler simply wanted to kill all Jews, why did he wait until the onset of WWII to put them in concentration camps? WWII began in 1939. Hitler came to power in 1933. Why didn't he round them up and send them away between those years?

Answer: As a result of the back-stabbing, treason, and treachery of organized, radical Jewry within Germany during WWI (a memory fresh in every German's mind), Hitler sought to remove this perceived threat to Germany's security by placing them in concentration camps.

America did the same thing with Japanese Americans during WWII -- we removed a perceived threat to our security from society, and put them in concentration camps. The difference was, the Japanese Americans hadn't done anything in the past to warrant such fear by the government.

Sign above concentration camp: "Arbeit Macht Frei" = "Work Sets You Free".
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how do you think the Native Americans feel...
population before europeans arrived 65 million....
population after the Crusade/Holocaust 1 million...

now thats a holocaust that doesn't even get recognized...

apparently Hitler used the European slaughter of Native Americans as his model for taking over Europe....interesting
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If Hitler simply wanted to kill all Jews, why did he wait until the onset of WWII to put them in concentration camps? WWII began in 1939. Hitler came to power in 1933. Why didn't he round them up and send them away between those years?

Answer: As a result of the back-stabbing, treason, and treachery of organized, radical Jewry within Germany during WWI (a memory fresh in every German's mind), Hitler sought to remove this perceived threat to Germany's security by placing them in concentration camps DURING WAR TIME (I forgot to add).

America did the same thing with Japanese Americans during WWII -- we removed a perceived threat to our security from society, and put them in concentration camps. The difference was, the Japanese Americans hadn't done anything in the past to warrant such fear by the government.

Sign above concentration camp: "Arbeit Macht Frei" = "Work Sets You Free".
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