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European Space Agency Indicates Mars’ Moon Phobos is Hollow and Artificial!

 
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Yea seems like a trustworthy website
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That has to be a bogus story. I just can't believe it - period.
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Just because you don't believe it does not mean its bogus friend.....
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Yeah. I shouldn't have posted that so quickly. After looking into the geode possibility, everything is kind of changing as to how I think about Phobos. Sorry about my snotty response, OP.
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simple facts here is

that it has been deemed interesting enough for a few diffrent countries to sent craft to land/photo/scan etc

for diffrent astronomers to conclude its orbit is strange enough to think its no simple moon

and for the disinfo brigade to be all over it

myself i think there might we something about this "moon"but im sure we aint being told what...
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the diameter of the Moon 3500 km, and thickness of the lunar crust 35 km, that is incredible? I realized this long agochuckle
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No, not for anyone with 2 funtioning brain cells-yes that excludes you.

Earth
"The continental crust is typically from 30 km (20 mi) to 50 km (30 mi) thick and is mostly composed of slightly less dense rocks than those of the oceanic crust."
( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Mars
"The average thickness of the planet's crust is about 50 km (31 mi), with a maximum thickness of 125 km (78 mi)"
( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Venus
"Venus's crust appears to be 50 kilometres (31 mi) in thickness, and composed of silicate rocks"
( [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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In the 1980's Russia in concert with the West sent an explorer type vehicle to Mars' moon Phobos. While entering the thin atmosphere of Phobos the Russian probe was destroyed by a missle that came from the surface of Phobos.

Yes this story sounds kooky but its a fact. Video of this was sent back to earth, the Russians released a still shot of the missle just before impact. Im sure ya'll could google it.

It must have really freaked-out Ronald Reagan. After this event he made many comments about "what if earth were attacked by something beyond earth" and "our differences between countries would disappear if we were attacked by an outside force, beyond earth."

I don't know if Phobos is hollow. I do know that some advanced life form is not letting anyone land on Phobos.
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Here's a video on this. The missile came from Mars not Phobos.
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In the 1980's Russia in concert with the West sent an explorer type vehicle to Mars' moon Phobos. While entering the thin atmosphere of Phobos the Russian probe was destroyed by a missle that came from the surface of Phobos.

Yes this story sounds kooky but its a fact. Video of this was sent back to earth, the Russians released a still shot of the missle just before impact. Im sure ya'll could google it.

It must have really freaked-out Ronald Reagan. After this event he made many comments about "what if earth were attacked by something beyond earth" and "our differences between countries would disappear if we were attacked by an outside force, beyond earth."

I don't know if Phobos is hollow. I do know that some advanced life form is not letting anyone land on Phobos.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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YES
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NO
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In the 1980's Russia in concert with the West sent an explorer type vehicle to Mars' moon Phobos. While entering the thin atmosphere of Phobos the Russian probe was destroyed by a missle that came from the surface of Phobos.

Yes this story sounds kooky but its a fact. Video of this was sent back to earth, the Russians released a still shot of the missle just before impact. Im sure ya'll could google it.

It must have really freaked-out Ronald Reagan. After this event he made many comments about "what if earth were attacked by something beyond earth" and "our differences between countries would disappear if we were attacked by an outside force, beyond earth."

I don't know if Phobos is hollow. I do know that some advanced life form is not letting anyone land on Phobos.
 Quoting: brent pops


Almost everything I say on this website is something weird, like something that I've never even expressed before just to blow off steam; the rest is mostly threads I've started or replied to in order to critique other's viewpoints.

However when it comes to this comment by brent pops I just want to say that there is at least a little bit of truth to what is being said in it about the probe, and there is more to it than that even.

I believe it to be the only compelling evidence that exists involving UFO's and strange coincidences that isn't taken seriously enough; I believe it could even be international in scope.

It involves more than one mission and more than one superpower.

At this time, though, I have forgotten some of it due to getting distracted from it all.

For anyone who is really good at researching a topic and all of the related loose ends to it, I would really recommend taking a look into this.

There is evidence for something out of the ordinary when it comes to this matter and it cannot be explained away as easily as other UFO incidents.
“If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi
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In the 1980's Russia in concert with the West sent an explorer type vehicle to Mars' moon Phobos. While entering the thin atmosphere of Phobos the Russian probe was destroyed by a missle that came from the surface of Phobos.

Yes this story sounds kooky but its a fact. Video of this was sent back to earth, the Russians released a still shot of the missle just before impact. Im sure ya'll could google it.

It must have really freaked-out Ronald Reagan. After this event he made many comments about "what if earth were attacked by something beyond earth" and "our differences between countries would disappear if we were attacked by an outside force, beyond earth."

I don't know if Phobos is hollow. I do know that some advanced life form is not letting anyone land on Phobos.
 Quoting: brent pops


Almost everything I say on this website is something weird, like something that I've never even expressed before just to blow off steam; the rest is mostly threads I've started or replied to in order to critique other's viewpoints.

However when it comes to this comment by brent pops I just want to say that there is at least a little bit of truth to what is being said in it about the probe, and there is more to it than that even.

I believe it to be the only compelling evidence that exists involving UFO's and strange coincidences that isn't taken seriously enough; I believe it could even be international in scope.

It involves more than one mission and more than one superpower.

At this time, though, I have forgotten some of it due to getting distracted from it all.

For anyone who is really good at researching a topic and all of the related loose ends to it, I would really recommend taking a look into this.

There is evidence for something out of the ordinary when it comes to this matter and it cannot be explained away as easily as other UFO incidents.
 Quoting: Mastema


Keeping in mind that with any matter of this nature there are always going to be people exaggerating and making outrageous claims, like the OP, so keep that in mind and don't let it sway you one way or the other.
“If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi
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Porous would probably be a better term than hollow. They certainly did not say it was artificial. While it appears to have cavities, the moon's moment of inertia is too low to be a hollow sphere (somewhere around .36 to .42 from what I've seen vs .66 for a hollow sphere). Now it is interesting to point out that making living spaces in subsurface caverns of a large asteroid to be used as a natural space ship is one suggested future method of exploration, so while it wouldn't be truly hollow or artificial, it would end up looking something like that, just with a lot of equipment on the surface as well.
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although making an asteroid a liveable space would be somewhat inconvenient when compared to a semi-liveable planet that would require nothing more than the introduction of a few non-native plants in order to make the atmosphere conducive to your own survival.....wouldn't even take a generation if enough of the right plants were introduced.

then it would a self-sustaining system, requiring no maintenance

in other words : easier to live on a planet not QUITE suited to you than to live on an asteroid that is NOT AT ALL suited for life.
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Now watch while all the Illuminati, Masons, Psychopaths, Sociopaths, Malignants, and Megalomaniacs crawl out of the wood-work and "claim" it was "them" that built it, that it belongs to "them".

They will claim "they" always knew about it, and that "they" always had references to it in "their" secret books and writings.

Probably will conjure up some really convincing fabricated crap too.

"They" are the only ones privelaged enough to know the truth.
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Same as our own moon. Artificial
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In Greek mythology, Phobos is one of the sons of Ares (Mars) and Aphrodite (Venus).

"Phobos" is Greek for "fear" (the root of "phobia").

Discovered 1877 August 18 by Hall; photographed by Mariner 9 in 1971, Viking 1 in 1977, and Phobos in 1988.

Phobos orbits Mars below the synchronous orbit radius. Thus it rises in the west, moves very rapidly across the sky and sets in the east, usually twice a day. It is so close to the surface that it cannot be seen above the horizon from all points on the surface of Mars.

And Phobos is doomed: because its orbit is below synchronous altitude tidal forces are lowering its orbit (current rate: about 1.8 meters per century). In about 50 million years it will either crash onto the surface of Mars or (more likely) break up into a ring. (This is the opposite effect to that operating to raise the orbit of the Moon.)

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Hollow, ok, but artificial? Where does it state that?
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Nowhere. Because this is a bsflagthread.
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OP should correct the title of the thread because ESA never said that Phobos is artificial and there's a big "MAY BE" before "hollow".

[link to www.esa.int]
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Because of that, I just voted BS plus an unpin sgst.

OP, what is wrong with you, you had a good story, but turned it to crap.
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Porous would probably be a better term than hollow. They certainly did not say it was artificial. While it appears to have cavities, the moon's moment of inertia is too low to be a hollow sphere (somewhere around .36 to .42 from what I've seen vs .66 for a hollow sphere). Now it is interesting to point out that making living spaces in subsurface caverns of a large asteroid to be used as a natural space ship is one suggested future method of exploration, so while it wouldn't be truly hollow or artificial, it would end up looking something like that, just with a lot of equipment on the surface as well.
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although making an asteroid a liveable space would be somewhat inconvenient when compared to a semi-liveable planet that would require nothing more than the introduction of a few non-native plants in order to make the atmosphere conducive to your own survival.....wouldn't even take a generation if enough of the right plants were introduced.

then it would a self-sustaining system, requiring no maintenance

in other words : easier to live on a planet not QUITE suited to you than to live on an asteroid that is NOT AT ALL suited for life.
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You missed the point, which was to create a spaceship. It's a whole hell of a lot more feasible to get an asteroid to move where you want it than a planet (and it's still not terribly easy). And you're assuming a great many things about the "unsuitable" planet being able to sustain your plant life. And even if you succeed, it'll all be for nothing if you decide to use your planet as a spaceship and thereby knock out the delicate ecosystem balance by changing your orbital radius. The whole point is to be able to have living areas under the surface that you have complete control over the temperature, lighting, even humidity and none of it is disturbed by moving about the solar system or beyond as you please.
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You missed the point, which was to create a spaceship. It's a whole hell of a lot more feasible to get an asteroid to move where you want it than a planet (and it's still not terribly easy). And you're assuming a great many things about the "unsuitable" planet being able to sustain your plant life. And even if you succeed, it'll all be for nothing if you decide to use your planet as a spaceship and thereby knock out the delicate ecosystem balance by changing your orbital radius. The whole point is to be able to have living areas under the surface that you have complete control over the temperature, lighting, even humidity and none of it is disturbed by moving about the solar system or beyond as you please.
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This is fascinating.
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Hollow Earth, hollow moon(s)...

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hollow heads
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Hollow Earth, hollow moon(s)...

spock
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hollow heads
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and the troll comes in fuks the whole chat up with spam.
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Porous would probably be a better term than hollow. They certainly did not say it was artificial. While it appears to have cavities, the moon's moment of inertia is too low to be a hollow sphere (somewhere around .36 to .42 from what I've seen vs .66 for a hollow sphere). Now it is interesting to point out that making living spaces in subsurface caverns of a large asteroid to be used as a natural space ship is one suggested future method of exploration, so while it wouldn't be truly hollow or artificial, it would end up looking something like that, just with a lot of equipment on the surface as well.
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although making an asteroid a liveable space would be somewhat inconvenient when compared to a semi-liveable planet that would require nothing more than the introduction of a few non-native plants in order to make the atmosphere conducive to your own survival.....wouldn't even take a generation if enough of the right plants were introduced.

then it would a self-sustaining system, requiring no maintenance

in other words : easier to live on a planet not QUITE suited to you than to live on an asteroid that is NOT AT ALL suited for life.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


You missed the point, which was to create a spaceship. It's a whole hell of a lot more feasible to get an asteroid to move where you want it than a planet (and it's still not terribly easy). And you're assuming a great many things about the "unsuitable" planet being able to sustain your plant life. And even if you succeed, it'll all be for nothing if you decide to use your planet as a spaceship and thereby knock out the delicate ecosystem balance by changing your orbital radius. The whole point is to be able to have living areas under the surface that you have complete control over the temperature, lighting, even humidity and none of it is disturbed by moving about the solar system or beyond as you please.
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getting intresting i think they are about to announce somthing here.
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There's a video Inter view with one of the Apollo astronauts where he's asked about ET's and he says something like "of course theyre out there, look att the obelisk on phobos"

It's mainstream peeps, they throwing it in yer face.
We are the product of genetic manipulation by either our descendants from far in the future or we are test subjects of another superior intelligence. We've been around a lot longer than we've been taught and we populated mars until the atmosphere was lost/destroyed somehow. Whether our ancestors fled Mars to come here or we simultaeneously inhabited both is the only real question
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Hollow, ok, but artificial? Where does it state that?
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Nowhere. Because this is a bsflagthread.
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You fucking mook duche bag its in the title and if you read the article it says not natural thus, ARTIFICIAL.
So stfu
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How can it be artificial? It just looks like an asteroid. It is an irregular surface, not metal plated or artificial looking in any way. I don't buy it. It may be hollow due to the way it was formed and we may not exactly know how that works sometimes with the formation of moons.. I don't buy it. Not one bit.
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simple facts here is

that it has been deemed interesting enough for a few diffrent countries to sent craft to land/photo/scan etc

for diffrent astronomers to conclude its orbit is strange enough to think its no simple moon

and for the disinfo brigade to be all over it

myself i think there might we something about this "moon"but im sure we aint being told what...
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Exactly which Nations or Space Agencies have ever sent a Lander on Phobos with that expressed mission? How many?

Perhaps the USA, and the Russians, and perhaps the ESA.. but other than that if even that many, what other ones?

Seems countries have to at least make it to Lunar Orbit before trying for Mars orbit.

So, just which, 'few different countries'?

Hmmmmmm?
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Your link is BROKEN OP!

That's the biggest problem with UFO buffs. 90% of then can't read scientific data properly, twist what's written and then claim that "NASA confirmed it" or "ESA admitted that"...

ESA says that "PARTS of Phobos MAY be hollow", but more like a waffle, rather than an actual hollow body, as thought by those who believe that Phobos is an alien space station, as MYSELF. The word "ARTIFICIAL" is nowhere in the article.

Previous Mars Express flybys have already provided the most accurate mass yet for Phobos, and the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) has provided the volume. When calculating the density, this gives a surprising figure because it seems that parts of Phobos may be hollow. The science team aim to verify this preliminary conclusion.

In particular, the MARSIS radar will operate in a special sequence to try to see inside the moon, looking for structures or some clue to the internal composition. “If we know more about how Phobos is built, we might know more about how it formed,” says Witasse.

The origin of Phobos is a mystery. Three scenarios are possible. The first is that the moon is a captured asteroid. The second is that it formed in situ as Mars formed below it. The third is that Phobos formed later than Mars, out of debris flung into Martian orbit when a large meteorite struck the red planet.
 Quoting: [link to www.esa.int]

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Op you failed! 1 star for such a lie.

The word "ARTIFICIAL" is nowhere in the article.

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How can it be artificial? It just looks like an asteroid. It is an irregular surface, not metal plated or artificial looking in any way. I don't buy it. It may be hollow due to the way it was formed and we may not exactly know how that works sometimes with the formation of moons.. I don't buy it. Not one bit.
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Hint, look at Asteroid/Planet Drawf Vesta for comparison... see the similarities? Perhaps Vesta is also Hollow and Artificial as well? Nah, that would be just way Too Much!
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The 4th, Phobos is a captured Comet core. That is one 'origin' theory that has never been commented or even posed for Phobos.
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I knew it!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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OK, I Googled the "Phobos Incident" and found this:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

It's by that fraudster, Zachariah Sitchin. Color me skeptical.

Does anyone have something VERIFIABLE that doesn't originate with that scamster?
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There's a video Inter view with one of the Apollo astronauts where he's asked about ET's and he says something like "of course theyre out there, look att the obelisk on phobos"

It's mainstream peeps, they throwing it in yer face.
We are the product of genetic manipulation by either our descendants from far in the future or we are test subjects of another superior intelligence. We've been around a lot longer than we've been taught and we populated mars until the atmosphere was lost/destroyed somehow. Whether our ancestors fled Mars to come here or we simultaeneously inhabited both is the only real question
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..... or DISINFO planted by a lying fucking Freemason.

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