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The "RAPTURE" Doctrine is a LIE!

 
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Enoch and Elijah were Raptured.

A picture of things to come.


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The White Horse

And he shall (Strengthen - gawbar) a covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Dan 9:27

Gawbar –Strengthen – In order to strengthen a covenant with (many – rab, adjective), it must already exist… It is not he makes a covenant with many.

From Obama’s speech at the Turkish Parliament, April 6, 2009

The United States strongly supports the goal of two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security (Joel 3:2, 1 Thess 5:3)

That is a goal that the parties agreed to in the Road map and at Annapolis

From Obama’s speech at Cairo University, June 4, 2009 – Titled: Obama speaks to the Muslim world > In the audience were 10 Members of the Muslim Brotherhood that received official invites

The only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.

The obligations that the parties have agreed to under the Road Map are clear

These quotes are just a few of the words Obama spoke against the land of Israel, And the Elohiym of Abraham Isaac and Yacob in his speeches to the king of the north and the king of the south.

On Tishri 21 2009, BHO was given the Nobel Peace Prize for Strengthening the covenant with many, The roadmap to peace

Tishri 21 is the Seventh Day of the feast of Tabernacles, seven circuits are made in the assemblies – The Final sealing of Judgment.

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a Prize was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Rev 6:2

Stephanos/Greek – Prize given in public ceremony

Tishri 21, 10/09/2009 + 1260 days = Abib 11, 3/22/2013 – when you see the Abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet

Abib 11, 2013 is The Sixth day of the week and the second day of spring.

But Pray that your flight be not in winter neither on the Sabbath day – Matt 24:20

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Dan 12:11

Abib 11, 2013 + 1290 days = YOM TERUAH – Tishri 1 – The Feast of Trumpets

(If you shall not watch.... you shall not know the hour)

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Blessed is he that waits, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Dan 12:12

Tishri 1 + 45 days = Bul 15

And in the eleventh year, in the month Bul, which is the eighth month, was the house finished throughout all the parts thereof, and according to all the fashion of it. So was he seven years in building it 1 Kings 6:38

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O care was signed on 3/23/2010, the original bill said that the RFID registry was to be operational 3 years from signing date, 3/23/2013

The Red Horse

Judah was prophesied to return to their homes first in the last days, the House of David, Zech 12, and then All the nations would come against them to Part His Land by a Vote.

That is Exactly what happen on 11/29/2012

For, behold, in those days, and in that time*, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah (the Jews) and Jerusalem, Joel 3:1

I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of YAH Judges, and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Yisrael, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My Land. 3:2

The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have you sold unto the Greeks, that you might remove them far from their border. Joel 3:6

Greeks, origin democracy, to decide by a Vote

The nations have voted to Part His Land

YAH Judges

Proclaim you this among the Nations; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Joel 3:9

– Peace taken from the earth…a great sword Revelation 6:4, Red Horse Zech 14:12

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The roadmap for peace is a plan to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict proposed by a “quartet” of international entities: the United States, the European Union , Russia, and the United Nations first outlined by President George W. Bush in a speech on June 24, 2002.

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Date Calulator

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The Nobel Peace Prize 2009

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Seventh day Sukkot 2009

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Yeshiva News: Erev Hoshanah Rabbah 10/8/2009

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Obama’s speech Turkish Parliament / video and transcript

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Obama’s speech Cairo University / video and transcript

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And it just so happens that bho's birthday is on the Day retro calculated to the destruction of the second temple.

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conquering and to conquer, a real christian massacre Libya, Egypt, Syria for his Muslim Brotherhood

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Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that the anti-christ shall come... 1 Jo 2:18

The definite article is in the Greek text. hoti ho anticristos That the

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....and the people of the ruler (anti-christ) that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary... Dan 9:26

The 10th legion under Titus destroyed the Temple on the 9th of Av 70 A.D.

The 10th legion was ethnic Syrian conscripts of Rome

The people of the ruler that shall come

the USA uprooted three kings that arose from the collapse of the Roman Empire

England- Revolutionary War

France- Louisiana Purchase

Spain- Spanish American War

And the ten horns out of this kingdom ( Western Roman Empire, the Head vs 20) are ten kings that shall arise(ten did): and another (USA) shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. Dan 7:24

Diverse by extension

'he' is speaking of that nation in the masculine, compare 7:7-8, the Head of fourth beast vs. 20 >

I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns( England, France, Spain) plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. 7:8

Syrian heritage

8,000 Beduin stake their claim as the lost tribe of Barack Obama

A sheikh in Galilee says he has evidence that he and his family are linked by blood to the new President

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“We hope to God that Obama will solve the problem of Ghajar,” said Sheikh Issam al-Khalil, a leading citizen of the divided town, whose residents mostly speak Hebrew and Arabic but many of whom consider themselves as originally Syrian. Reference Times UK, Subscription

Report: Galilee Bedouin claim Obama as lost member of tribe living in the Golan Heights that are

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Enoch and Elijah were Raptured.

A picture of things to come.


This thread = fail.
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Sorry, the bible does not say he was "raptured" so that does not fit with the topic of this thread. Straw Man argument.

Your post = fail
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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RAPTURED...



MARK 13:27

And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.

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You obviously did not watch the videos and do the study, nobody said that He won't gather his people.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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This topic; The Harpazo

Seems to frustrate fellowship...

pity....
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It IS true...it's only not true when you don't fully understand scripture or don't bother to read them yourself....but it is true and it will happen.
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It IS true...it's only not true when you don't fully understand scripture or don't bother to read them yourself....but it is true and it will happen.
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By all means please tell me WHAT will happen and HOW it will happen and without using the word rapture. Thanks
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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It IS true...it's only not true when you don't fully understand scripture or don't bother to read them yourself....but it is true and it will happen.
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Saying it's true does not make it so

We will be caught up according to the bible but not like that which is commonly taught.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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It IS true...it's only not true when you don't fully understand scripture or don't bother to read them yourself....but it is true and it will happen.
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Saying it's true does not make it so

We will be caught up according to the bible but not like that which is commonly taught.
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It was answered on page one. Yes there is a multitude to be raptured that came out of the great tribulation. Not afterwards, and before the seventh seal is opened.
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The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
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It IS true...it's only not true when you don't fully understand scripture or don't bother to read them yourself....but it is true and it will happen.
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Saying it's true does not make it so

We will be caught up according to the bible but not like that which is commonly taught.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


It was answered on page one. Yes there is a multitude to be raptured that came out of the great tribulation. Not afterwards, and before the seventh seal is opened.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The 7th seal was opened already, study revelation a little more and study history in relation.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
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The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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i really cant say i feel sorry for you if you believe this crap, but plz plz read rev. thats the last book in the bible and yet this is what i have to say , god says read no mans word but go by his word hello my friend plz plz that is a insane vid.
The common teaching that the saved will be secretly raptured away leaving the wicked is NOT TRUE!

PLEASE WATCH BEFORE REFUTING







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i really cant say i feel sorry for you if you believe this crap, but plz plz read rev. thats the last book in the bible and yet this is what i have to say , god says read no mans word but go by his word hello my friend plz plz that is a insane vid.
The common teaching that the saved will be secretly raptured away leaving the wicked is NOT TRUE!

PLEASE WATCH BEFORE REFUTING







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Why would I not believe the video? Over 90% of it is scripture quotes
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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There are many teachings and beliefs that are not true but those who believe them are entitled to believe them!!!
Why do you feel the need to pick on this one?
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Because it's one of the most commonly accepted false teaching and needs to corrected.
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It's also dangerous over all.. keeps them in the dark to the signs of the times.
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Op I won't use the word rapture. But I will use Ascend. Just like Jesus Ascended when he left this earth that will happen to the the children who are filled with his spirit. The lord has taken people in spirit and showed these events taking place. People have had visions, prophetic dreams and so on. So yes there will be removal of people from this earth. As well as the Holy Spirit.
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Op I won't use the word rapture. But I will use Ascend. Just like Jesus Ascended when he left this earth that will happen to the the children who are filled with his spirit. The lord has taken people in spirit and showed these events taking place. People have had visions, prophetic dreams and so on. So yes there will be removal of people from this earth. As well as the Holy Spirit.
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The evil people are taken out first.
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Al religitards can go
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fucking loosers
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iamwith Must suck to have that much HATE in you!
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It IS true...it's only not true when you don't fully understand scripture or don't bother to read them yourself....but it is true and it will happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29612777


Saying it's true does not make it so

We will be caught up according to the bible but not like that which is commonly taught.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


It was answered on page one. Yes there is a multitude to be raptured that came out of the great tribulation. Not afterwards, and before the seventh seal is opened.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The 7th seal was opened already, study revelation a little more and study history in relation.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I know you are on an island now in your thinking. No worldwide earthquake moving everything has occurred nor has there been celestial woes.
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The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Right! And that happens at the 7th trump, the last trump.

That is what the Bible says. And that is what the Lord spoke to me.

hf
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Saying it's true does not make it so

We will be caught up according to the bible but not like that which is commonly taught.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


It was answered on page one. Yes there is a multitude to be raptured that came out of the great tribulation. Not afterwards, and before the seventh seal is opened.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The 7th seal was opened already, study revelation a little more and study history in relation.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I know you are on an island now in your thinking. No worldwide earthquake moving everything has occurred nor has there been celestial woes.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Right! And that happens at the 7th trump, the last trump.

That is what the Bible says. And that is what the Lord spoke to me.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please understand, God would not let 2000 years pass without fulfilling prophecy for his people to see and to witness to the world....



The seventh trumpet..


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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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It was answered on page one. Yes there is a multitude to be raptured that came out of the great tribulation. Not afterwards, and before the seventh seal is opened.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The 7th seal was opened already, study revelation a little more and study history in relation.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I know you are on an island now in your thinking. No worldwide earthquake moving everything has occurred nor has there been celestial woes.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Right! And that happens at the 7th trump, the last trump.

That is what the Bible says. And that is what the Lord spoke to me.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please understand, God would not let 2000 years pass without fulfilling prophecy for his people to see and to witness to the world....


 Quoting: Veresanctus


I will listen to what His voice told me, and not the teachings of confused man.

Instead of believing what men say, why not fast and pray for 3 days and get a real answer directly from Him yourself? That's what I did.

hf
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The 7th seal was opened already, study revelation a little more and study history in relation.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I know you are on an island now in your thinking. No worldwide earthquake moving everything has occurred nor has there been celestial woes.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


...


The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Right! And that happens at the 7th trump, the last trump.

That is what the Bible says. And that is what the Lord spoke to me.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please understand, God would not let 2000 years pass without fulfilling prophecy for his people to see and to witness to the world....


 Quoting: Veresanctus


I will listen to what His voice told me, and not the teachings of confused man.

Instead of believing what men say, why not fast and pray for 3 days and get a real answer directly from Him yourself? That's what I did.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You cannot take a "voice" above scripture. There are many who get a "word from the lord" but how do you know if the voice truly is of God? Trust the bible, trust His written Word that He established for us.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


What happens after the 1000 years?

huh

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It was answered on page one. Yes there is a multitude to be raptured that came out of the great tribulation. Not afterwards, and before the seventh seal is opened.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The 7th seal was opened already, study revelation a little more and study history in relation.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I know you are on an island now in your thinking. No worldwide earthquake moving everything has occurred nor has there been celestial woes.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Right! And that happens at the 7th trump, the last trump.

That is what the Bible says. And that is what the Lord spoke to me.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Please understand, God would not let 2000 years pass without fulfilling prophecy for his people to see and to witness to the world....



The seventh trumpet..

 Quoting: Veresanctus


Here's the problem with that thinking. Your video says that it is symbolic. He is making huge assumptions. Everything points to a generation that will not pass due to Israel becoming a nation again. As surely as Jesus Christ came into this flesh, died for our sins, was resurrected, and ascended to the Father so shall the coming of the Son of Man be. There are prescribed times and all will be fulfilled in this plane of existence. Otherwise, there would be no need for flesh to be saved due to the elect's sake. It is quite clear that a multitude (call it a rapture,deliverance, ascension, etc. I don't care) is delivered before God concurrent with the sealing of the 144,000.
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Nothing to do with religion is true. It's all fairy stories for adult kids who cannot handle reality.
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The rapture is true, don't believe everything you see on youtube because many are wrong.

The rapture will happen, but not till the 7th trump.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The rapture will happen at the day of the Lord's return when the dead will be raised and we also changed and caught up with them and we will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


What happens after the 1000 years?

huh
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." -- (Revelation 20:7-21:8 KJV)

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

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