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The Coming Celestial Convergence

 
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well... nothing i haven't read here before in the last 15 years or so... not one single thing.
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True, same old mental masturbation from minds that are so busy figuring out the material manifestations that they miss the big picture. They need to go back to the ancients for wisdom instead of chasing their tail trying to make sense out of modern data that has no sense of the spiritual nature of the universe.
Yawn...
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lol, that is what I've been doing. Connecting it to the ancients.


Thread: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art
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Plasma scientists are now comparing electrical discharge formations in the laboratory to rock art images around the world. Results in 2005 should confirm that immense and terrifying plasma configurations were seen in the sky of our ancestors.

For over three decades Anthony Peratt, a leading authority on plasma phenomena, concentrated his laboratory research on the unstable formations that develop in high-energy electrical discharge. He recorded the evolution of these configurations through dozens of phases. Some of the most elaborate discharge forms are now called “Peratt Instabilities” because he was the first to document them.

But Peratt’s most recent work has taken him in a new direction, and the results offer a remarkable link between plasma science and things once seen in the heavens. In September, 2000, in response to communication with David Talbott, Peratt became intrigued by the striking similarity of ancient rock art to the discharge formations he had documented. Suddenly he was seeing, carved on stone by the tens of thousands, the very forms he had observed in the laboratory. The correlation was so precise -- down to the finest details -- that it could not be accidental. The artists were recording heaven-spanning discharge formations above them.

In his investigation of rock art themes, Peratt concentrated his field work in the American Southwest and Northwest, but he also gathered data internationally. For his on-site study he used GPS longitude and latitude positions, always noting the orientation and field of view. A team of about 30 volunteers, including specialists from several fields, assisted Peratt in the investigation, and he has since gathered more than 25,000 rock art images.

The illustrations of one interesting formation — the “squatter man” shown above -- are taken from Peratt’s recent paper in "Transactions on Plasma Science" of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, in December 2003. Peratt states his conclusion forthrightly: The recurring petroglyph patterns "are reproductions of plasma phenomena in space".

Peratt’s findings are particularly significant in their contrast to traditional explanations of rock art. The majority of rock art authorities, particularly those with primary interest in Native American sources, argue that only images of the sun, moon, and stars reflect actual celestial phenomena. Apart from such associations, most authorities claim that global patterns do not exist. Rather, they tell us, the ancient artists projected onto stone the subjective content of shamanistic trances. Peratt’s investigations say the opposite, and they confirm dozens of patterns of rock art that occur globally. Through massive labors, some apparently taking whole lifetimes according to Peratt, the artists recorded immense discharge phenomena in the heavens.

The “squatter man” configuration depicted above occurs when a disk or donut-like torus around a linear discharge column is bent by magnetic fields induced by intense current flow. From the viewpoint of the observer, the edges of the upper disk may appear to point up (forming "arms") and those of the lower torus may appear to point down (forming "legs"). The underlying “hourglass” pattern, with many subtle variations, occurs around the world.

To appreciate the evolution of this discharge configuration it is essential that one visualize it three dimensionally, as illustrated by the idealization above. The graphic image on the upper left utilizes a tonal gradient to indicate the structure of a translucent plasma discharge, where this structure would not be self evident in a rendition carved on rock. The key here is to recognize that rotating the configuration on its axis would not change the basic form or appearance to the observer. This fact will not be evident, however, in a simple carving on rock. To make the point, the accompanying image converts the illustration into black and white, which represents the way the configuration would likely appear in a stone carving.

Our idealization shows slight variations between the upward-pointing and downward-pointing components, consistent with common variations in the laboratory and in rock art. The upper “champagne glass” form results from a distortion of a disk as the edges curve upward. In the warping of the disk below, the downward curvature is interrupted at the extremity, which bends outward to create a “squashed bell” appearance. The rock art images shown above include other variations as well. Sometimes, the “arms” and “legs” of the “squatter man” are horizontal, while at other times they are more squared than in our graphic representation, but both variations are characteristic of intense plasma discharge.

Our idealization of the hourglass discharge form accents the visual relationship of the two symmetrical dots or circles to a transparent doughnut-like torus, viewed edge on. But many other nuances of such discharge configurations must be taken into account. The warping of the upward and downward extremities of the hourglass form can occur in almost limitless variations. To illustrate the extent of the variations anciently recorded, we offer two interesting examples in the upper right frame of the montage above. The first, closely tied to the more elementary “squatter man” formation, includes the two dots to the right and left of the torso. The incongruous additional pair of “legs” also accord with observed patterns in the evolution of Peratt instabilities, which typically send out stacks of “arms” or “legs” in the very fashion depicted. Even more bizarre is the accompanying squatter man whose head is replaced by the body of a duck. But this pattern too, particularly widespread in the Americas, is no accident according to Peratt.

If Peratt’s conclusions are correct, then only a few thousand years ago the terrestrial sky was ablaze with electrical activity. The ramifications of this possibility will directly affect our understanding of cultural roots. What was the impact of the recorded events on the first civilizations? What was the relationship to the origins of world mythology, to the birth of the early religions, or to monumental construction in ancient times?

There is reason to believe that rock art will illuminate a critical turn in human history. There is also a provable connection to the evolution of mythical archetypes. Archaic rock art depictions came first, but were followed by an outpouring of conceptual elaborations, as ancient artists gave imaginative expression to the celestial forms and events that inspired the myth-making epoch. Both the rock artists and the myth-makers had true perils on their minds. The rock artists recorded and the myth-makers interpreted electrical events in the sky, as plasma discharge sequences moved through discrete phases, some of celestial beauty, others intensely violent and terrifying.

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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hat's off to ya for trying to tie modern observations to ancient art, but I still sigh because the gap between mythology and materialism isn't being breached, just randomly entwined.

Ancient celestial artists saw the cosmos as a living organism. Their observations were not simply depicting physical phenomenon like plasma discharges mistakenly attributed to gods or ancestors. They were witnessing and recording a dynamic, organic living sky that interpenetrated material existence. Dismissing their interpretations as a primitive attempt to explain the space phenomenon our technology reveals is a typical blind spot. We don't realize we can no longer see what was once so very clear to us.

Care to push the envelope a little further???
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well... nothing i haven't read here before in the last 15 years or so... not one single thing.
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True, same old mental masturbation from minds that are so busy figuring out the material manifestations that they miss the big picture. They need to go back to the ancients for wisdom instead of chasing their tail trying to make sense out of modern data that has no sense of the spiritual nature of the universe.
Yawn...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845


lol, that is what I've been doing. Connecting it to the ancients.


Thread: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art
:thun321:

Plasma scientists are now comparing electrical discharge formations in the laboratory to rock art images around the world. Results in 2005 should confirm that immense and terrifying plasma configurations were seen in the sky of our ancestors.

For over three decades Anthony Peratt, a leading authority on plasma phenomena, concentrated his laboratory research on the unstable formations that develop in high-energy electrical discharge. He recorded the evolution of these configurations through dozens of phases. Some of the most elaborate discharge forms are now called “Peratt Instabilities” because he was the first to document them.

But Peratt’s most recent work has taken him in a new direction, and the results offer a remarkable link between plasma science and things once seen in the heavens. In September, 2000, in response to communication with David Talbott, Peratt became intrigued by the striking similarity of ancient rock art to the discharge formations he had documented. Suddenly he was seeing, carved on stone by the tens of thousands, the very forms he had observed in the laboratory. The correlation was so precise -- down to the finest details -- that it could not be accidental. The artists were recording heaven-spanning discharge formations above them.

In his investigation of rock art themes, Peratt concentrated his field work in the American Southwest and Northwest, but he also gathered data internationally. For his on-site study he used GPS longitude and latitude positions, always noting the orientation and field of view. A team of about 30 volunteers, including specialists from several fields, assisted Peratt in the investigation, and he has since gathered more than 25,000 rock art images.

The illustrations of one interesting formation — the “squatter man” shown above -- are taken from Peratt’s recent paper in "Transactions on Plasma Science" of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, in December 2003. Peratt states his conclusion forthrightly: The recurring petroglyph patterns "are reproductions of plasma phenomena in space".

Peratt’s findings are particularly significant in their contrast to traditional explanations of rock art. The majority of rock art authorities, particularly those with primary interest in Native American sources, argue that only images of the sun, moon, and stars reflect actual celestial phenomena. Apart from such associations, most authorities claim that global patterns do not exist. Rather, they tell us, the ancient artists projected onto stone the subjective content of shamanistic trances. Peratt’s investigations say the opposite, and they confirm dozens of patterns of rock art that occur globally. Through massive labors, some apparently taking whole lifetimes according to Peratt, the artists recorded immense discharge phenomena in the heavens.

The “squatter man” configuration depicted above occurs when a disk or donut-like torus around a linear discharge column is bent by magnetic fields induced by intense current flow. From the viewpoint of the observer, the edges of the upper disk may appear to point up (forming "arms") and those of the lower torus may appear to point down (forming "legs"). The underlying “hourglass” pattern, with many subtle variations, occurs around the world.

To appreciate the evolution of this discharge configuration it is essential that one visualize it three dimensionally, as illustrated by the idealization above. The graphic image on the upper left utilizes a tonal gradient to indicate the structure of a translucent plasma discharge, where this structure would not be self evident in a rendition carved on rock. The key here is to recognize that rotating the configuration on its axis would not change the basic form or appearance to the observer. This fact will not be evident, however, in a simple carving on rock. To make the point, the accompanying image converts the illustration into black and white, which represents the way the configuration would likely appear in a stone carving.

Our idealization shows slight variations between the upward-pointing and downward-pointing components, consistent with common variations in the laboratory and in rock art. The upper “champagne glass” form results from a distortion of a disk as the edges curve upward. In the warping of the disk below, the downward curvature is interrupted at the extremity, which bends outward to create a “squashed bell” appearance. The rock art images shown above include other variations as well. Sometimes, the “arms” and “legs” of the “squatter man” are horizontal, while at other times they are more squared than in our graphic representation, but both variations are characteristic of intense plasma discharge.

Our idealization of the hourglass discharge form accents the visual relationship of the two symmetrical dots or circles to a transparent doughnut-like torus, viewed edge on. But many other nuances of such discharge configurations must be taken into account. The warping of the upward and downward extremities of the hourglass form can occur in almost limitless variations. To illustrate the extent of the variations anciently recorded, we offer two interesting examples in the upper right frame of the montage above. The first, closely tied to the more elementary “squatter man” formation, includes the two dots to the right and left of the torso. The incongruous additional pair of “legs” also accord with observed patterns in the evolution of Peratt instabilities, which typically send out stacks of “arms” or “legs” in the very fashion depicted. Even more bizarre is the accompanying squatter man whose head is replaced by the body of a duck. But this pattern too, particularly widespread in the Americas, is no accident according to Peratt.

If Peratt’s conclusions are correct, then only a few thousand years ago the terrestrial sky was ablaze with electrical activity. The ramifications of this possibility will directly affect our understanding of cultural roots. What was the impact of the recorded events on the first civilizations? What was the relationship to the origins of world mythology, to the birth of the early religions, or to monumental construction in ancient times?

There is reason to believe that rock art will illuminate a critical turn in human history. There is also a provable connection to the evolution of mythical archetypes. Archaic rock art depictions came first, but were followed by an outpouring of conceptual elaborations, as ancient artists gave imaginative expression to the celestial forms and events that inspired the myth-making epoch. Both the rock artists and the myth-makers had true perils on their minds. The rock artists recorded and the myth-makers interpreted electrical events in the sky, as plasma discharge sequences moved through discrete phases, some of celestial beauty, others intensely violent and terrifying.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798

 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hat's off to ya for trying to tie modern observations to ancient art, but I still sigh because the gap between mythology and materialism isn't being breached, just randomly entwined.

Ancient celestial artists saw the cosmos as a living organism. Their observations were not simply depicting physical phenomenon like plasma discharges mistakenly attributed to gods or ancestors. They were witnessing and recording a dynamic, organic living sky that interpenetrated material existence. Dismissing their interpretations as a primitive attempt to explain the space phenomenon our technology reveals is a typical blind spot. We don't realize we can no longer see what was once so very clear to us.

Care to push the envelope a little further???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845


I would totally agree with you. I think they were 'in tune' with the universe, where we have lost that.

There are many avenues of exploration into the topic you are bringing up. One line of thought, which I enjoyed quite a bit, was Graham Hancock's research in his book, Supernatural.

If you have some info, please post it if you wish. I am buried at work right now...
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The Schumann Resonance is slightly annoying because I haven't found a site or reference that shows the current value.

I have read in a few places that it has been steadily rising and may be close to its peak but finding reliable information is proving quite elusive scratching
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True, same old mental masturbation from minds that are so busy figuring out the material manifestations that they miss the big picture. They need to go back to the ancients for wisdom instead of chasing their tail trying to make sense out of modern data that has no sense of the spiritual nature of the universe.
Yawn...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845


lol, that is what I've been doing. Connecting it to the ancients.


Thread: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art
:thun321:

Plasma scientists are now comparing electrical discharge formations in the laboratory to rock art images around the world. Results in 2005 should confirm that immense and terrifying plasma configurations were seen in the sky of our ancestors.

For over three decades Anthony Peratt, a leading authority on plasma phenomena, concentrated his laboratory research on the unstable formations that develop in high-energy electrical discharge. He recorded the evolution of these configurations through dozens of phases. Some of the most elaborate discharge forms are now called “Peratt Instabilities” because he was the first to document them.

But Peratt’s most recent work has taken him in a new direction, and the results offer a remarkable link between plasma science and things once seen in the heavens. In September, 2000, in response to communication with David Talbott, Peratt became intrigued by the striking similarity of ancient rock art to the discharge formations he had documented. Suddenly he was seeing, carved on stone by the tens of thousands, the very forms he had observed in the laboratory. The correlation was so precise -- down to the finest details -- that it could not be accidental. The artists were recording heaven-spanning discharge formations above them.

In his investigation of rock art themes, Peratt concentrated his field work in the American Southwest and Northwest, but he also gathered data internationally. For his on-site study he used GPS longitude and latitude positions, always noting the orientation and field of view. A team of about 30 volunteers, including specialists from several fields, assisted Peratt in the investigation, and he has since gathered more than 25,000 rock art images.

The illustrations of one interesting formation — the “squatter man” shown above -- are taken from Peratt’s recent paper in "Transactions on Plasma Science" of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, in December 2003. Peratt states his conclusion forthrightly: The recurring petroglyph patterns "are reproductions of plasma phenomena in space".

Peratt’s findings are particularly significant in their contrast to traditional explanations of rock art. The majority of rock art authorities, particularly those with primary interest in Native American sources, argue that only images of the sun, moon, and stars reflect actual celestial phenomena. Apart from such associations, most authorities claim that global patterns do not exist. Rather, they tell us, the ancient artists projected onto stone the subjective content of shamanistic trances. Peratt’s investigations say the opposite, and they confirm dozens of patterns of rock art that occur globally. Through massive labors, some apparently taking whole lifetimes according to Peratt, the artists recorded immense discharge phenomena in the heavens.

The “squatter man” configuration depicted above occurs when a disk or donut-like torus around a linear discharge column is bent by magnetic fields induced by intense current flow. From the viewpoint of the observer, the edges of the upper disk may appear to point up (forming "arms") and those of the lower torus may appear to point down (forming "legs"). The underlying “hourglass” pattern, with many subtle variations, occurs around the world.

To appreciate the evolution of this discharge configuration it is essential that one visualize it three dimensionally, as illustrated by the idealization above. The graphic image on the upper left utilizes a tonal gradient to indicate the structure of a translucent plasma discharge, where this structure would not be self evident in a rendition carved on rock. The key here is to recognize that rotating the configuration on its axis would not change the basic form or appearance to the observer. This fact will not be evident, however, in a simple carving on rock. To make the point, the accompanying image converts the illustration into black and white, which represents the way the configuration would likely appear in a stone carving.

Our idealization shows slight variations between the upward-pointing and downward-pointing components, consistent with common variations in the laboratory and in rock art. The upper “champagne glass” form results from a distortion of a disk as the edges curve upward. In the warping of the disk below, the downward curvature is interrupted at the extremity, which bends outward to create a “squashed bell” appearance. The rock art images shown above include other variations as well. Sometimes, the “arms” and “legs” of the “squatter man” are horizontal, while at other times they are more squared than in our graphic representation, but both variations are characteristic of intense plasma discharge.

Our idealization of the hourglass discharge form accents the visual relationship of the two symmetrical dots or circles to a transparent doughnut-like torus, viewed edge on. But many other nuances of such discharge configurations must be taken into account. The warping of the upward and downward extremities of the hourglass form can occur in almost limitless variations. To illustrate the extent of the variations anciently recorded, we offer two interesting examples in the upper right frame of the montage above. The first, closely tied to the more elementary “squatter man” formation, includes the two dots to the right and left of the torso. The incongruous additional pair of “legs” also accord with observed patterns in the evolution of Peratt instabilities, which typically send out stacks of “arms” or “legs” in the very fashion depicted. Even more bizarre is the accompanying squatter man whose head is replaced by the body of a duck. But this pattern too, particularly widespread in the Americas, is no accident according to Peratt.

If Peratt’s conclusions are correct, then only a few thousand years ago the terrestrial sky was ablaze with electrical activity. The ramifications of this possibility will directly affect our understanding of cultural roots. What was the impact of the recorded events on the first civilizations? What was the relationship to the origins of world mythology, to the birth of the early religions, or to monumental construction in ancient times?

There is reason to believe that rock art will illuminate a critical turn in human history. There is also a provable connection to the evolution of mythical archetypes. Archaic rock art depictions came first, but were followed by an outpouring of conceptual elaborations, as ancient artists gave imaginative expression to the celestial forms and events that inspired the myth-making epoch. Both the rock artists and the myth-makers had true perils on their minds. The rock artists recorded and the myth-makers interpreted electrical events in the sky, as plasma discharge sequences moved through discrete phases, some of celestial beauty, others intensely violent and terrifying.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798

 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hat's off to ya for trying to tie modern observations to ancient art, but I still sigh because the gap between mythology and materialism isn't being breached, just randomly entwined.

Ancient celestial artists saw the cosmos as a living organism. Their observations were not simply depicting physical phenomenon like plasma discharges mistakenly attributed to gods or ancestors. They were witnessing and recording a dynamic, organic living sky that interpenetrated material existence. Dismissing their interpretations as a primitive attempt to explain the space phenomenon our technology reveals is a typical blind spot. We don't realize we can no longer see what was once so very clear to us.

Care to push the envelope a little further???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845


I would totally agree with you. I think they were 'in tune' with the universe, where we have lost that.

There are many avenues of exploration into the topic you are bringing up. One line of thought, which I enjoyed quite a bit, was Graham Hancock's research in his book, Supernatural.

If you have some info, please post it if you wish. I am buried at work right now...
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Pretty busy here, too, but I will add that the lecture given by Joseph Campbell on the Vitality of Myth probes the questions of how our modern concept of space has cancelled out the pervasive questions of great mythology. In short, the relationship between the microcosm and the macrocosm has been convoluted to make mankind feel like an insignificant mistake on a backwater planet.

Here's a link to an article on the lecture, to get the full lecture you have to deal with the money-hungry Joseph Campbell Foundation...that is unless you're clever enough to find it otherwise :)
[link to www.parabola.org]
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Mind...is...blown...

Impacts of Severe Space Weather on the Electric Grid.

Study done by J.A.S.O.N. and dated 11/11

[link to www.fas.org]

Don't know who J.A.S.O.N. is?
The Jason Group is the elite of the scientific field.

Also, Google JASON and the Quest of the Order.

(thanks 0)
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No way, thought that they were urban legend. Gotta love how they sneak it in!
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lol, that is what I've been doing. Connecting it to the ancients.


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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hat's off to ya for trying to tie modern observations to ancient art, but I still sigh because the gap between mythology and materialism isn't being breached, just randomly entwined.

Ancient celestial artists saw the cosmos as a living organism. Their observations were not simply depicting physical phenomenon like plasma discharges mistakenly attributed to gods or ancestors. They were witnessing and recording a dynamic, organic living sky that interpenetrated material existence. Dismissing their interpretations as a primitive attempt to explain the space phenomenon our technology reveals is a typical blind spot. We don't realize we can no longer see what was once so very clear to us.

Care to push the envelope a little further???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845


I would totally agree with you. I think they were 'in tune' with the universe, where we have lost that.

There are many avenues of exploration into the topic you are bringing up. One line of thought, which I enjoyed quite a bit, was Graham Hancock's research in his book, Supernatural.

If you have some info, please post it if you wish. I am buried at work right now...
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Pretty busy here, too, but I will add that the lecture given by Joseph Campbell on the Vitality of Myth probes the questions of how our modern concept of space has cancelled out the pervasive questions of great mythology. In short, the relationship between the microcosm and the macrocosm has been convoluted to make mankind feel like an insignificant mistake on a backwater planet.

Here's a link to an article on the lecture, to get the full lecture you have to deal with the money-hungry Joseph Campbell Foundation...that is unless you're clever enough to find it otherwise :)
[link to www.parabola.org]
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Totally essential that we ALL listen to Dr. Thomas Campbell's (not Joseph, I'm pretty sure) lecture. It is the next evolutionary step, I listened to the whole 90 minute (18 part) lecture on You Tube the other night and it blew my mind, have to listen again of course. Basically, he says to take whatever form of meditation floats your boat, and through that start to explore your other aspects of consciousness.

Set up little experiments for yourself and keep accurate, detailed documentation of everything otherwise you won't know what you did. Its totally about finding your own comfort zone, no prescribed path, its OK if it gets a little "hairy" out there, but best not attempted if you are primarily fear-based still. Only he does a MUCH better job of it, very exciting. I never take anything whole hog, I integrate with my own knowledge, and recommend anyone else do the same, most know this but it doesn't hurt to repeat it.
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Mind...is...blown...

Impacts of Severe Space Weather on the Electric Grid.

Study done by J.A.S.O.N. and dated 11/11

[link to www.fas.org]

Don't know who J.A.S.O.N. is?
The Jason Group is the elite of the scientific field.

Also, Google JASON and the Quest of the Order.

(thanks 0)
 Quoting: Septenary Man


No way, thought that they were urban legend. Gotta love how they sneak it in!
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I know, right? I can't believe no one else commented on JASON.

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Here's a good link on JASON

JASON typically performs most of its work during an annual summer study, and has conducted studies under contract to the Department of Defense (frequently DARPA and the U.S. Navy), the Department of Energy, the U.S. Intelligence Community, and the FBI. Approximately half of the resulting JASON reports are unclassified.
[link to www.fas.org]
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Came across this. Pretty interesting correlations.

The Prophecy of Peter Deunov
Our solar system is now traversing a region of the Cosmos where a constellation that was destroyed left its mark, its dust. This crossing of a contaminated space is a source of poisoning, not only for the inhabitants of the earth, but for all the inhabitants of the other planets of our galaxy. Only the suns are not affected by the influence of this hostile environment.

This region is called "the thirteenth zone"; one also calls it "the zone of contradictions". Our planet was enclosed in this region for thousands of years, but finally we are approaching the exit of this space of darkness and we are on the point of attaining a more spiritual region, where more evolved beings live...

Humans will voyage through the different planes of space and breakthrough intergalactic space. They will study their functioning and will rapidly be able to know the Divine World, to fusion with the Head of the Universe...

...The earth will soon be swept by extraordinary rapid waves of Cosmic Electricity. A few decades from now beings who are bad and lead others astray will not be able to support their intensity. They will thus be absorbed by Cosmic Fire that will consume the bad that they possess. Then they will repent because it is written that "each flesh shall glorify God". Our mother, the earth, will get rid of men that don't accept the New Life. She will reject them like damaged fruit. They will soon not be able to reincarnate on this planet; criminals included. Only those that possess Love in them will remain...

...The parasites will disappear. Men will remember their previous incarnations and they will feel the pleasure of noticing that they are finally liberated from their previous condition...
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Came across this. Pretty interesting correlations.

The Prophecy of Peter Deunov
Our solar system is now traversing a region of the Cosmos where a constellation that was destroyed left its mark, its dust. This crossing of a contaminated space is a source of poisoning, not only for the inhabitants of the earth, but for all the inhabitants of the other planets of our galaxy. Only the suns are not affected by the influence of this hostile environment.

This region is called "the thirteenth zone"
; one also calls it "the zone of contradictions". Our planet was enclosed in this region for thousands of years, but finally we are approaching the exit of this space of darkness and we are on the point of attaining a more spiritual region, where more evolved beings live...

Humans will voyage through the different planes of space and breakthrough intergalactic space. They will study their functioning and will rapidly be able to know the Divine World, to fusion with the Head of the Universe...

...The earth will soon be swept by extraordinary rapid waves of Cosmic Electricity. A few decades from now beings who are bad and lead others astray will not be able to support their intensity. They will thus be absorbed by Cosmic Fire that will consume the bad that they possess. Then they will repent because it is written that "each flesh shall glorify God". Our mother, the earth, will get rid of men that don't accept the New Life. She will reject them like damaged fruit. They will soon not be able to reincarnate on this planet; criminals included. Only those that possess Love in them will remain...

...The parasites will disappear. Men will remember their previous incarnations and they will feel the pleasure of noticing that they are finally liberated from their previous condition...
 Quoting: Peter Deunov

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nice ss, thanks a lot (:
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0 gave us a ritual. I'm doing it New Year's Eve.

Thread: New Year's Eve is an Intersection. I will be doing 0's ritual. Find it inside!
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So what kind of a time frame are we talking about here he said he was leaving in June was that last summer or this coming summer???
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Came across this. Pretty interesting correlations.

The Prophecy of Peter Deunov
Our solar system is now traversing a region of the Cosmos where a constellation that was destroyed left its mark, its dust. This crossing of a contaminated space is a source of poisoning, not only for the inhabitants of the earth, but for all the inhabitants of the other planets of our galaxy. Only the suns are not affected by the influence of this hostile environment.

This region is called "the thirteenth zone"; one also calls it "the zone of contradictions". Our planet was enclosed in this region for thousands of years, but finally we are approaching the exit of this space of darkness and we are on the point of attaining a more spiritual region, where more evolved beings live...

Humans will voyage through the different planes of space and breakthrough intergalactic space. They will study their functioning and will rapidly be able to know the Divine World, to fusion with the Head of the Universe...

...The earth will soon be swept by extraordinary rapid waves of Cosmic Electricity. A few decades from now beings who are bad and lead others astray will not be able to support their intensity. They will thus be absorbed by Cosmic Fire that will consume the bad that they possess. Then they will repent because it is written that "each flesh shall glorify God". Our mother, the earth, will get rid of men that don't accept the New Life. She will reject them like damaged fruit. They will soon not be able to reincarnate on this planet; criminals included. Only those that possess Love in them will remain...

...The parasites will disappear. Men will remember their previous incarnations and they will feel the pleasure of noticing that they are finally liberated from their previous condition...
 Quoting: Peter Deunov

[link to www.angelfire.com]
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Do you read Swiss Guy's threads? He must be the President of the Peter Deunov fan club... He has shared some really good postings... Search for the one titled 'The Coming Golden Age'...

What's even more interesting about what you shared above is the date or time period in which it would have been written.... Duenov died in 1945 I believe.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Came across this. Pretty interesting correlations.

The Prophecy of Peter Deunov
Our solar system is now traversing a region of the Cosmos where a constellation that was destroyed left its mark, its dust. This crossing of a contaminated space is a source of poisoning, not only for the inhabitants of the earth, but for all the inhabitants of the other planets of our galaxy. Only the suns are not affected by the influence of this hostile environment.

This region is called "the thirteenth zone"; one also calls it "the zone of contradictions". Our planet was enclosed in this region for thousands of years, but finally we are approaching the exit of this space of darkness and we are on the point of attaining a more spiritual region, where more evolved beings live...

Humans will voyage through the different planes of space and breakthrough intergalactic space. They will study their functioning and will rapidly be able to know the Divine World, to fusion with the Head of the Universe...

...The earth will soon be swept by extraordinary rapid waves of Cosmic Electricity. A few decades from now beings who are bad and lead others astray will not be able to support their intensity. They will thus be absorbed by Cosmic Fire that will consume the bad that they possess. Then they will repent because it is written that "each flesh shall glorify God". Our mother, the earth, will get rid of men that don't accept the New Life. She will reject them like damaged fruit. They will soon not be able to reincarnate on this planet; criminals included. Only those that possess Love in them will remain...

...The parasites will disappear. Men will remember their previous incarnations and they will feel the pleasure of noticing that they are finally liberated from their previous condition...
 Quoting: Peter Deunov

[link to www.angelfire.com]
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Do you read Swiss Guy's threads? He must be the President of the Peter Deunov fan club... He has shared some really good postings... Search for the one titled 'The Coming Golden Age'...

What's even more interesting about what you shared above is the date or time period in which it would have been written.... Duenov died in 1945 I believe.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Yes, he did. That is why to me, this really was effective.

And yes, I browse through Swiss' threads. A little too long of reads most of the time though.
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Thread: The Earth and Life - by Russian Scientist: DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV

THE EARTH AND LIFE

By DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV*

Published in Russian, IICA Transactions, Volume 4, 1997

*Professor of Geology and Mineralogy, and Chief Scientific Member,United Institute of Geology, Geophysics, and Mineralogy, Siberian Department of Russian Academy of Sciences.

Expert on Global Ecology, and Fast-Processing Earth Events.

Russian to English Translation and Editing:
by A. N. Dmitriev, Andrew Tetenov, and Earl L. Crockett

[link to www.tmgnow.com] (Full Paper)

Conclusion:
The situation that has been created here in our Heliosphere is of external, Interstellar, cosmic space origin,and is herein assumed to be caused by the underlying fundamental auto-oscillation, space-physical, processes of continuous creation that has shaped, and continues to evolve our Universe. The present excited state of our Heliosphere exists within the whole, or entire, organism that makes up the Solar System; the Sun, Planets, Moons, Comets, and Asteroids, as well as the plasmas, and/or electromagnetic mediums, and structures, of Interplanetary Space. The response to these Interstellar energy and matter injections into our Heliosphere has been, and continues to be, a series of newly observed energetic processes and formations on all of the Planets; between the Planets and their Moons, and the Planets and the Sun.

Earth's ability to adapt to these external actions and transference's is aggravated, made more difficult, by the technogeneous alterations we have made to the natural quality, or state, of our geological-geophysical environment. Our Planet Earth is now in the process of a dramatic transformation;by altering the electromagnetic skeleton through a shift of the geomagnetic field poles, and through compositional changes in the ozone, and hydrogen, saturation levels of its gas-plasma envelopes.

These changes in the Earth's physical state are being accompanied by resultant climatic/atmospheric, and biospheric, adaptation processes. These processes are becoming more and more intense, and frequent, as evidenced by the real time increase in "non-periodic transient events"; ie., catastrophes. There are reasons favoring, or pointing to, the fact that a growth in the ethical, or spiritual quality, of humanity would decrease the number and intensity of complex catastrophes. It has become vitally important that a world chart be prepared setting forth the favorable, and the catastrophic, regions on Earth taking into account the quality of the geologic-geophysical environment, the variety and intensity of cosmic influences, and the real level of spiritual-ethical development of the people occupying those areas.

It is reasonable to point out that our Planet will soon be experiencing these new conditions of growing energy signifying the transition into a new state and quality of Space-Earth relationship. The living organisms of those regions of Earth having the major "inlets", or attractions, for cosmic influences will be taking the lead in evolving life's appropriate reactions, or processes, to these new conditions. These zones of vertical commutations and energy transfers are already becoming the heart, or hotbeds, in the search for new systems of adaptation and mutual transformation.

The most significant of these areas are the helio-sensitive zones which have intense responses to geoeffective solar activities [Note #1]; responses that include the very dramatic and unusual manifestation of non-homogeneous vacuum, or classical non-mechanical ether, domain structures. These structures, or objects, then interact with the heliosensitive zones producing deep and powerful effects upon the environment such as the alteration of seismic activities, and chemical compositions. Because these non-homogeneous vacuum domain objects display not-of-this-physical-world characteristics such as "liquid light" and "non-Newtonian movement" it is difficult not to describe their manifestations as being "interworld processes". It is important to note that those heliosensitive zones that exhibit middle and large scale processes are also those that are closely associated with these "interworld processes" produced by physical vacuum homogeneity disturbances.

Such disturbances cause, and create, energy and matter transfer processes between the ether media and our three-dimensional world. The multitude of such phenomena, which is rich in it's quality and variety, is already growing quickly. Hundreds of thousands of these natural self-luminous formations are exerting a increasing influence upon Earth's geophysic fields and biosphere. We suggest that the presence of these formations is the mainstream precedent to the transformation of Earth; an Earth which becomes more and more subject to the transitional physical processes which exist within the borderland between the physical vacuum and our material world.

All of this places humanity, and each one of us, squarely in front of a very difficult and topical problem; the creation of a revolutionary advancement in knowledge which will require a transformation of our thinking and being equal to this never-before-seen phenomena now presencing itself in our world. There is no other path to the future than a profound internal experiential perception and knowledge of the events now underway in the natural environment that surrounds us. It is only through this understanding that humanity will achieve balance with the renewing flow of the PlanetoPhysical States and Processes.

End Paper
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Those pesky Russians (lol,Cayce) keep coming up for me. Ty for this thread, for now, I have to hold off on your paper, I don't have the time to delve today. Ty, you must have an amazing mind! Please check out my second thread and see what you think.
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Hey SS!

Another fascinating dissertation by you
and many of the responders... I'm late
to the party as usual.

My laymans idea of the effects of added
plasma to our solar system is an increased
fluidity and electro-static conductivity.
Not to be a God botherer, but if the legends
of flooding have validity, where'd all the
water come from then go to again? Is there
also the potential for the atmosphere to
become more heavily laden with moisture if
the fluff is essentially 'fluid' in nature?

All the dots are connected, seeing how they
are is the challenge, eh?
Natural law created humans.
Human nature created lawyers.
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It has been 1 year today since you made a thread out of my post. "A back channel dimensional lemotiv."

Quite the ride. I should say.

Quite the transition since then till now you.

So many name changes and shifts....

:)

Love ya Chad.

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I suspect you found that "23" a long while ago. ;)

Take care.

Infinitely NOW!

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fascinating
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This ^ combined with below from 0:52 through 2:03 and it gets interesting......imo.


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It has been 1 year today since you made a thread out of my post. "A back channel dimensional lemotiv."

Quite the ride. I should say.

Quite the transition since then till now you.

So many name changes and shifts....

:)

Love ya Chad.

0
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Just saw this.

Love you too, my friend. And yes, it has been quite a ride.
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The Bible is full of astronomical descriptions of the night skies at the time big problems unfold in late 2019.

[link to endtimesand2019.webs.com]
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The Bible is full of astronomical descriptions of the night skies at the time big problems unfold in late 2019.

[link to endtimesand2019.webs.com]
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I've never read the bible, but obviously have seen and read parts of it through the years. I like this kind of stuff.
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Mind...is...blown...

Impacts of Severe Space Weather on the Electric Grid.

Study done by J.A.S.O.N. and dated 11/11

[link to www.fas.org]

Don't know who J.A.S.O.N. is?
The Jason Group is the elite of the scientific field.

Also, Google JASON and the Quest of the Order.

(thanks 0)
 Quoting: Septenary Man


No way, thought that they were urban legend. Gotta love how they sneak it in!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9038715


I know, right? I can't believe no one else commented on JASON.

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Buttt, it's howww they sneak it in that is really interesting, isn't it?? -Sneak it into 'reality'??
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keep up the good work my man...

Thread: Riding the Interface Region

Solar Journey: The Significance of our
Galactic Environment for the
Heliosphere and Earth

Priscilla C. Frisch
University of Chicago, IL, USA
Humans evolved when the Sun was in the great void of the Local Bubble. The Sun entered the present environment of interstellar clouds only during the late Quaternary. Astronomical data reveal these long and short term changes in our galactic environment. Theoretical models then tell us how these changes affect interplanetary particles, planetary magnetospheres, and the Earth itself. Cosmic rays leave an isotopic signature in the paleoclimate record that helps trace the solar journey through space.
"Solar Journey: The Significance of Our Galactic Environment for the Heliosphere and Earth" lays the foundation for an interdisciplinary study of the influence of interstellar material on the solar system and Earth as we travel through the Milky Way Galaxy.
The solar wind bubble responds dynamically to interstellar material flowing past the Sun, regulating interstellar gas, dust, and cosmic particle fluxes in the interplanetary medium and the Earth. Cones of interstellar gas and dust focused by solar gravity, the magnetospheres of the outer planets, and cosmic rays at Earth all might yield the first
hints of changes in our galactic environment.

[link to astro.uchicago.edu]
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 Quoting: Septenary Man

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24700210




humans haven't evolved one iota

there's where they're all DREAMING and they will continue to do such right up until they're faced with the truth of the matter

if anything, they've regressed, notably

if they knew how far beneath their original estate they were at present tense, they'd laugh until they cried

but we'll save that for The Lords Day I reckon

as in the best is yet to come
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Hat's off to ya for trying to tie modern observations to ancient art, but I still sigh because the gap between mythology and materialism isn't being breached, just randomly entwined.

Ancient celestial artists saw the cosmos as a living organism. Their observations were not simply depicting physical phenomenon like plasma discharges mistakenly attributed to gods or ancestors. They were witnessing and recording a dynamic, organic living sky that interpenetrated material existence. Dismissing their interpretations as a primitive attempt to explain the space phenomenon our technology reveals is a typical blind spot. We don't realize we can no longer see what was once so very clear to us.

Care to push the envelope a little further???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845


I would totally agree with you. I think they were 'in tune' with the universe, where we have lost that.

There are many avenues of exploration into the topic you are bringing up. One line of thought, which I enjoyed quite a bit, was Graham Hancock's research in his book, Supernatural.

If you have some info, please post it if you wish. I am buried at work right now...
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Pretty busy here, too, but I will add that the lecture given by Joseph Campbell on the Vitality of Myth probes the questions of how our modern concept of space has cancelled out the pervasive questions of great mythology. In short, the relationship between the microcosm and the macrocosm has been convoluted to make mankind feel like an insignificant mistake on a backwater planet.

Here's a link to an article on the lecture, to get the full lecture you have to deal with the money-hungry Joseph Campbell Foundation...that is unless you're clever enough to find it otherwise :)
[link to www.parabola.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845


Totally essential that we ALL listen to Dr. Thomas Campbell's (not Joseph, I'm pretty sure) lecture. It is the next evolutionary step, I listened to the whole 90 minute (18 part) lecture on You Tube the other night and it blew my mind, have to listen again of course. Basically, he says to take whatever form of meditation floats your boat, and through that start to explore your other aspects of consciousness.

Set up little experiments for yourself and keep accurate, detailed documentation of everything otherwise you won't know what you did. Its totally about finding your own comfort zone, no prescribed path, its OK if it gets a little "hairy" out there, but best not attempted if you are primarily fear-based still. Only he does a MUCH better job of it, very exciting. I never take anything whole hog, I integrate with my own knowledge, and recommend anyone else do the same, most know this but it doesn't hurt to repeat it.
 Quoting: Isis One


Thank you for enunciating this info Isis. I am understanding more and More that it's about grasping the 'truth'......
That dream in the f.o.g. really resonated and please relay the resonance, they are spreading truth, at least in pieces.... Though, I do think it's nearly time to stop looking and go within, don't you?

I, personally, need this info as I was starting to be overwhelmed by the routes, - got on a tangent with his other vids and didn't watch 18 part lecture, yet, to KNOW how easy it is, I think I already do, (as do u), ha!

May we all tap in, and bring with us, those that just don't get it....
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Thank you SS...

I've been reading all your threads since 10am, can't seem to stop reading, like I'm a sponge for knowledge or something...

I was turned on to the gem Walter Russell (I don't even remember how) back around Nov. 20th 2012 and since then I feel like I have just EXPLODED with spirituality/knowing...

Didn't mean to get off subject but wanted you to know you are helping others, even if some of us just "read"...

BTW, let me know if you ever find out what to do with that little guy *yearning*

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