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Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?

 
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Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
Women are taught day-in and day-out that they are supposed to be sexy, perpetual cheerleaders, leaving less room for individuality and low self-esteem.

Which doesn't seem fair.

Men can look pretty much look however they please and that is what they put out there.

So, in theory, why is there so much loneliness?

Who holds the cards? And why are adults still playing Crazy Eights?

Thoughts? Discuss.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
The masculine is afraid of the feminine. Men and masculinity control this society and have created most of these visions of women and women have fallen prey to it by being surrounded by these visions of how women should be and look.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
Women are afraid of the rejection because their power has been lost amoungst the overwhelming male influence.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
Women of course because from birth they're indoctrinated that their worth is through a man's desire. So they never nuture their self-esteem and pride

This is why lesbianism is viewed as alluring by most males but male homosexuality is a tragedy.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
Wow. All very insightful and very true responses.

Anyone want to answer from their point-of-view? It's always interesting about what both halves wonder about the other. Especially because, personally, I can't make heads or tails of how healthy relationships are supposed to be started and nurtured in these times.

I mention society and the human condition a lot...maybe we are f**king each other over because of the superficiality and unrealistic standards.

Just bodies using bodies. A plastic and empty wasteland.

Sorry for the rant; I have a fever. :)

catdance
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
people, not just men/women are out of touch with their souls and hearts.Materialism reigns supreme , be it for fake boobs, a new sportscar or being 'the best' at a job,meaning making the most $$.
Men and women are both confused about their roles as men and women these days,know one knows what to do or what the ooposite sex want and most dont even know who they are or what they really want-so how can another fill that void when know one knows what it takes or how to do it.

what to do about it?i dont know<<<<me being just as confused.
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why is there so much loneliness?
 Quoting: AcrossTheUniverse


People are selfish and deluded.

But men have more to fear. We can lose everything without having done anything wrong.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
Women are god damned cunts
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
When young we do not quiet get the jest of what man is really like.

When we get married we find out.

And never want another one.

Oh we die with them before them or after them...but in no shape form or fashion ever want another one.

Because we got to see them with their friends as men are really like....when the female is not taking the reigns of them.

They are disgusting.

All his friends are disgusting...they are beastly.

They do disgusting things...and find stupidity funny.

They never grow up ever they just act like they do when cornered in the house.

Maybe it take about 20-30 years to no longer want any more but it eventually happens naturally with age.

Oh sure my husband is the best...sure could not ask for another like him..

And damn sure would not stick my hand down in the potpourri bag to drawl up another.

They are not the same creatures any more..all my husbands friends by majority are younger and they are creatures.
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sort of sad so many responses are so bitter and depressed sounding.
what a mess.y_sad
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
Well, you mention rejection in your title, yet it's not mentioned in the op itself.

Thought you were asking if women were more afraid to approach men or men more afraid to approach women.

And if that's your real question... lol... you KNOW the answer to this question.

Men have been completely pussified in this world now. And I don't mean "pussified" in the sense that they should be more masculine, no, no, BUT pussified in the sense that for a gender that has been trained to have virtually zero emotion, they sure are awfully needy.

It's just ironic that all the sterotypes in the history of men and women that all the attributes that used to be placed on women, are in fact the actual traits of men... neediness, need approval, fear of being rejected, etc... whereas now, it seems women "just want to be left alone" and "don't want to be bothered as much" which are classically stereotypes that were placed on men because "men don't possess the emotions women do."

When the truth is: regardless of gender we are all born equally in our brains, then after that, anything and everything is conditioned by the society you are raised in. I guess that's why it's so comical in this day and age (with all the great awakenings and truths happening and such) that either gender would try to act out any gender role at all because it's so completely transparent, it's laughable, but i realize the people themselves acting out their masculinity or over-femininity (in the way society has taught you what femininity is) don't know others can see it.

Ever wonder why gay or trans men act more feminine than women themselves or maybe why some gay or trans women act more masculine than men themselves? Because this is what it looks like in their mind, then they set out to act it out.

If you seriously look at it, they are both an act. And haven't we been trained by society to only want what we don't have? Haven't both genders been brainwashed that the other MUST enjoy sex more than the other? Doesn't this only create a divide, a disharmony, and fuel envy on both parts? Coupled with denial, of course...

Because if some people got seriously honest with themselves and acting these things out with each other in public or in private, it would destroy their world and their image of themselves. Ego is all it is when you get down to it. What are you afraid of?

And with the great divide between the genders, which creates 2 entirely, literally POLAR opposite types of people, does it not itself cause men to lust over men and women to lust over women? It does. It does cause that. No person in their right mind would want to be with someone who is so dramatically different from them... I mean, you don't want to date yourself (hopefully... well, most do for a long time until they realize what they're doing), but when they said "opposites attract," I don't think that's what they meant.

How could someone who thinks too highly of themselves be with someone who possesses little to no ego or vice-versa? I could go on. Or how could somebody incapable of logical, rational thought be with someone who is an utter-fucking-moron? I digress...

Society and the way it has conditioned all of you has, in fact, caused homosexuality. Not that it's a bad thing, but what remains a secret, IS, in fact, a bad thing. There are millions of closeted homosexuals who are still acting out this picturesque relationship with the opposite gender, all in vain, with little to no concept of their true wants and needs, nor the courage to accept them and to be open about it.

So, instead, we are stuck with a population of women who think to be EQUAL TO or greater than males, they must assume the age old stereotypes of men (breadwinners, etc) in order to be respected and accepted in society and a population of pissy, whiny, titty-baby mama's boys who want their wives and girlfriends to appease their ego, make the money, and play mommy to them (how they have classically viewed females as being perpetrators of).

So, to get back to the original question: Who is more afraid of rejection? Men or women? Men. It always has been and always will be.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
Women are god damned cunts
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Yes, because that adds soooo much to the discussion at hand. Dumbass.

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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
You're thinking about it on a physiological level when it's all in our biology. Things are the way they should be - we simply adapt and act in accordance to the environment around us.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
why is there so much loneliness?
 Quoting: AcrossTheUniverse


People are selfish and deluded.

But men have more to fear. We can lose everything without having done anything wrong.
 Quoting: Down Under Wonder. 22407251


Happening to me right now.

I've found my kindergarten sweetheart via the web, (she's living in Hungary, I'm in Sweden), we came close to each others during 8-9 months since the first mail, but guess what? Another man trying to pick her up (she was honest to me writing this), she went out with him because I can't move to Hungary and live there. I'm a notorically lonely guy never had anybody so I thought now I find somebody to love and plan forward but no. Also she was alone for many years so I wouldn't have cared if she found someone, but please, not now.

It doesn't feel good, I don't hate people but want to hit that guy who boldly come into the picture, there're tens of thousand of lonely woman in Hungary he could have picked up, except my special one, grrrrr!
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Well, you mention rejection in your title, yet it's not mentioned in the op itself.

Thought you were asking if women were more afraid to approach men or men more afraid to approach women.

And if that's your real question... lol... you KNOW the answer to this question.

Men have been completely pussified in this world now. And I don't mean "pussified" in the sense that they should be more masculine, no, no, BUT pussified in the sense that for a gender that has been trained to have virtually zero emotion, they sure are awfully needy.

It's just ironic that all the sterotypes in the history of men and women that all the attributes that used to be placed on women, are in fact the actual traits of men... neediness, need approval, fear of being rejected, etc... whereas now, it seems women "just want to be left alone" and "don't want to be bothered as much" which are classically stereotypes that were placed on men because "men don't possess the emotions women do."

When the truth is: regardless of gender we are all born equally in our brains, then after that, anything and everything is conditioned by the society you are raised in. I guess that's why it's so comical in this day and age (with all the great awakenings and truths happening and such) that either gender would try to act out any gender role at all because it's so completely transparent, it's laughable, but i realize the people themselves acting out their masculinity or over-femininity (in the way society has taught you what femininity is) don't know others can see it.

Ever wonder why gay or trans men act more feminine than women themselves or maybe why some gay or trans women act more masculine than men themselves? Because this is what it looks like in their mind, then they set out to act it out.

If you seriously look at it, they are both an act. And haven't we been trained by society to only want what we don't have? Haven't both genders been brainwashed that the other MUST enjoy sex more than the other? Doesn't this only create a divide, a disharmony, and fuel envy on both parts? Coupled with denial, of course...

Because if some people got seriously honest with themselves and acting these things out with each other in public or in private, it would destroy their world and their image of themselves. Ego is all it is when you get down to it. What are you afraid of?

And with the great divide between the genders, which creates 2 entirely, literally POLAR opposite types of people, does it not itself cause men to lust over men and women to lust over women? It does. It does cause that. No person in their right mind would want to be with someone who is so dramatically different from them... I mean, you don't want to date yourself (hopefully... well, most do for a long time until they realize what they're doing), but when they said "opposites attract," I don't think that's what they meant.

How could someone who thinks too highly of themselves be with someone who possesses little to no ego or vice-versa? I could go on. Or how could somebody incapable of logical, rational thought be with someone who is an utter-fucking-moron? I digress...

Society and the way it has conditioned all of you has, in fact, caused homosexuality. Not that it's a bad thing, but what remains a secret, IS, in fact, a bad thing. There are millions of closeted homosexuals who are still acting out this picturesque relationship with the opposite gender, all in vain, with little to no concept of their true wants and needs, nor the courage to accept them and to be open about it.

So, instead, we are stuck with a population of women who think to be EQUAL TO or greater than males, they must assume the age old stereotypes of men (breadwinners, etc) in order to be respected and accepted in society and a population of pissy, whiny, titty-baby mama's boys who want their wives and girlfriends to appease their ego, make the money, and play mommy to them (how they have classically viewed females as being perpetrators of).

So, to get back to the original question: Who is more afraid of rejection? Men or women? Men. It always has been and always will be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15044657


This X million
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
why is there so much loneliness?
 Quoting: AcrossTheUniverse


People are selfish and deluded.

But men have more to fear. We can lose everything without having done anything wrong.
 Quoting: Down Under Wonder. 22407251


Happening to me right now.

I've found my kindergarten sweetheart via the web, (she's living in Hungary, I'm in Sweden), we came close to each others during 8-9 months since the first mail, but guess what? Another man trying to pick her up (she was honest to me writing this), she went out with him because I can't move to Hungary and live there. I'm a notorically lonely guy never had anybody so I thought now I find somebody to love and plan forward but no. Also she was alone for many years so I wouldn't have cared if she found someone, but please, not now.

It doesn't feel good, I don't hate people but want to hit that guy who boldly come into the picture, there're tens of thousand of lonely woman in Hungary he could have picked up, except my special one, grrrrr!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611


Avoid competing with this guy. You're going too look like an ass.

You can do it, just be stable and most importantly fun. Open her mind and fill it with fantasy.

Just take it slowly, not too slowly that you miss your chance.

If she told you shes talking to another guy you already have good ground. Never ever mention that this guy threatens you.

Oh good luck.
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Re: Rejection -- Who is more afraid of who and why? Men or women?
You're thinking about it on a physiological level when it's all in our biology. Things are the way they should be - we simply adapt and act in accordance to the environment around us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610704


The environment around us shapes our expectations and what is expected of us and what we expect = psychology.

Whoever said men are beasts, I agree -- BUT most women are as well. No integrity when it comes to ourselves and unless we are manipulative, we are unable to treat the other with respect.

It's not a Tarzan & Jane situation. I don't think from my vagina and, even though there is many men that would deny it, shouldn't making an emotional bond with someone be just as important or more so than "gender roles"?

I disagree that men have it worse. Girls will fight over a guy if he gives them attention. Because that is what defines and validates the girl.

Sorry for another rant. I'll end with this:

It would seem that women rack up points for the
men they've screwed over and that men rack up points for the women they've screwed.

Sad and stupid.

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