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BREAKING # Obama Gives OK For BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS to Be Installed in ALL CARS

 
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there will be no running, no hiding, they will know where you are, who you are with, how to find you, your schedule, how much gas you have in your vehicle...

therefore they have you, when ever they want you,

don't say shit, don't say shinola against them, kiss their ring, do their slave labor, go home and shut up, eat your mush and drink your vodka....

no freedom, no hiding from the evil, evil government

thats simply what its all about

the cell door is slamming shut
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12/10/2012 08:31 AM
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most new cars have a black box, idiots

When I was towing, ICBC would come get the cpu box under the seat for crash investigations.

What I'd be worried about is shit like gps and on-star and that microphone in your rear view mirror.

rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29403640


I would be more worried about hackers. It isn't too hard to hack them if you have the right equipment. Which can be purchased online.

A car behind you could have a passenger hacker with a laptop activating your microphone to listen in. Even activate the speaker to send a message.
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Have to wonder what other information will be gathered that they don't tell you about.
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Second of all,

Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Really?

And how does that look like?

A cop showing his ID?

You must be joking!
 Quoting: RoXY


This is the law that Dutch police MUST follow:

>>>> Artikel 2

De ambtenaar legitimeert zich met het legitimatiebewijs dat aan hem is verstrekt:

a. bij optreden in burgerkleding ongevraagd, tenzij bijzondere omstandigheden dit onmogelijk maken, en

b. bij optreden in uniform, op verzoek daartoe.

<<<<<

See, it's in the LAW. Now if you had taken the time to read the LAW instead of conspiracy theory bullshit pieces trying to scare you to make the conspiracy theorists more money. Then you would be ; 1. Less scared and anxious. 2. More confident and knowledgable about your rights.

I've had discussions with police officers where the police officer actually admits that there are police officers out there that do not do their work properly and only harrass people.

(In plain English the law states that an officer must identify him/herself if asked by a citizen, UNLESS, special circumstances make this impossible, such as during a fight, robbery, arrest of other people. Part B states that even if they are in UNIFORM they must show their Identification if asked by people)
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Already have black box,been around a long time
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Second of all,

Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Really?

And how does that look like?

A cop showing his ID?

You must be joking!
 Quoting: RoXY


This is the law that Dutch police MUST follow:

>>>> Artikel 2

De ambtenaar legitimeert zich met het legitimatiebewijs dat aan hem is verstrekt:

a. bij optreden in burgerkleding ongevraagd, tenzij bijzondere omstandigheden dit onmogelijk maken, en

b. bij optreden in uniform, op verzoek daartoe.

<<<<<

See, it's in the LAW. Now if you had taken the time to read the LAW instead of conspiracy theory bullshit pieces trying to scare you to make the conspiracy theorists more money. Then you would be ; 1. Less scared and anxious. 2. More confident and knowledgable about your rights.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Bijdehand.

You ask a cop for his servicenumber (dienstnummer).

But you avoid answering the issue I mentioned.

The fact that laws are introduced for petty reasons, and used to rob citizens.

The ID law is a perfect example of that.

And perhaps you never had a problem, but there are tens of thousands of people who got a fine for something as a broken light on their bicycle, - very common in cities - and than another one for not being able to show their ID.

A drivers license for instance, is NOT a legitimate ID.
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The NHTSA claims that “EDRs do not collect any personal identifying information or record conversations and do not run continuously.”

Also in the news:

1. I love you

2. Check's in the mail.

3. I won't *** in your mouth


:)
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They can shut down any car built after 1988 via satalite, across the grid.
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So why don't they do this in high speed chases? Or earlier this year when those thugs were driving through LA throwing cash out the windows...
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I hear that RGPs work pretty good for that purpose.
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More gov mandated shit on your cars that YOU are going to end up paying for. Cars are LOADED with crap you don't need these days.
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[link to www.insurancejournal.com]

The roll-out continues...
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Locate black box, remove, discard.
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Locate black box, remove, discard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213681


$100 bucks says that will nullify your insurance policy.
..and you KNOW they will do something like that. grnrolleyes
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Get a bike!
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I don't think bikes are allowed on the highway. Unless you mean motorcycles. Hmmm, wonder if the fascists will be putting a black box in motorcycles.
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Second of all,

Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Really?

And how does that look like?

A cop showing his ID?

You must be joking!
 Quoting: RoXY


This is the law that Dutch police MUST follow:

>>>> Artikel 2

De ambtenaar legitimeert zich met het legitimatiebewijs dat aan hem is verstrekt:

a. bij optreden in burgerkleding ongevraagd, tenzij bijzondere omstandigheden dit onmogelijk maken, en

b. bij optreden in uniform, op verzoek daartoe.

<<<<<

See, it's in the LAW. Now if you had taken the time to read the LAW instead of conspiracy theory bullshit pieces trying to scare you to make the conspiracy theorists more money. Then you would be ; 1. Less scared and anxious. 2. More confident and knowledgable about your rights.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Bijdehand.

You ask a cop for his servicenumber (dienstnummer).

But you avoid answering the issue I mentioned.

The fact that laws are introduced for petty reasons, and used to rob citizens.

The ID law is a perfect example of that.

And perhaps you never had a problem, but there are tens of thousands of people who got a fine for something as a broken light on their bicycle, - very common in cities - and than another one for not being able to show their ID.

A drivers license for instance, is NOT a legitimate ID.
 Quoting: RoXY


You are obviously misinformed.

Enjoy your misinformed life.

Sayonara.
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This technology is already in your car. (ECU) engine control unit. (BCU) body control unit (TCU) transmission control unit. All these computers have memory that can be downloaded. Can't be removed or your car won't run. Move along....not an issue.
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Honestly, most vehicles since 2009 have had these installed.


It really doesn't bother me. People lie their asses off after a wreck.

They should put cameras in them as well.
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You are obviously misinformed.

Enjoy your misinformed life.

Sayonara.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Enjoy yours

Ytaunt

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Locate black box, remove, discard.
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$100 bucks says that will nullify your insurance policy.
..and you KNOW they will do something like that. :grnrolleyes:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Older cars are made better anyway. Which happens first, world destruction or putting up with some temporary sh*t spawned by madmen until they choke on their own improbable antivisionary pile of rot. :D
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Locate black box, remove, discard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213681


$100 bucks says that will nullify your insurance policy.
..and you KNOW they will do something like that. grnrolleyes
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


I hate to say it...but it's likely true in most states.
However, SC doesn't do inspections or anything and I know some dudes down here that empty out the catalytic converters and sell the platinum lol. It ups the power and sound too. Never any issues with insurance or po po.
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There r a few auto insurance companies offering u a discount if u install a device and allow them to monitor it.

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Car Spying: Event Data Recorder


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Get a bike!
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I don't think bikes are allowed on the highway. Unless you mean motorcycles. Hmmm, wonder if the fascists will be putting a black box in motorcycles.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Definitely time to keep and old pre-ODB car and non-electronic bike around.
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"You know that “check engine” light on your dashboard? What if instead of just telling you that the car’s computer has detected some fault with the emissions control system, it told the government – via roadside readers and satellite uplinks?

It’s called OBD III – and it’s right around the corner."

"It would also be possible to send the info directly to any nearby cop, who would then pull you over immediately – saving the government some time while making some more money off motorists.

This is not sci-fi. It’s impending reality. All the technical issues have been solved. Most new cars already come with GPS systems capable of receiving and sending data. It would be a simple matter to salt the roads with scanners capable of ID’ing every car that passes by, automatically establishing a communications link with your car’s computer. This would occur continuously and constantly, too – not just every once-in-a-while. OBD III as envisioned would literally make it possible to constantly monitor and record every vehicle so equipped, from the moment it left the driveway to the moment it returned at night."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151153


If and when this happens, use an RF Shield around the transceiver to block any signals going out or into the device. The shielding could be made out of tin foil or tin, but make sure all potential openings are sealed to prevent RF transmission.
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most new cars have a black box, idiots

When I was towing, ICBC would come get the cpu box under the seat for crash investigations.

What I'd be worried about is shit like gps and on-star and that microphone in your rear view mirror.

rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29403640


I would be more worried about hackers. It isn't too hard to hack them if you have the right equipment. Which can be purchased online.

A car behind you could have a passenger hacker with a laptop activating your microphone to listen in. Even activate the speaker to send a message.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Take it to the next level... A hacker, who is a terrorist, hacks into everyone's vehicle and shuts it down. Thereby, stopping all traffic and clogging all roads and highways so that nothing can be delivered by ground based trucking. Imagine no food deliveries to supermarkets, no supplies to manufacturing and industry. No import and export of any goods. Total chaos and anarchy would transpire within 3 days. The USA infrastructure would collapse. To put the icing on the cake, a hacker/terrorist could shut down the power grid by either overloading power stations and transformers or just shutting down the controllers so that no energy can be controlled on the system.
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yes yes EVERYTHING is about Obama we know we know...cuz if a republican were in the white house this would NEVER happen, I mean it's not like a republican created the Patriot Act or anything...oh wait...

you people need to break free of your left/right dichotomy, this is how they control you.
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My mother-in-law has one of these in her car. It doesn't record voices or conversation like the ones on airplanes, just the activities of the car itself. She gets a discount from her insurance company if she does not speed etc..
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Sounds like a rather good idea to me. Just think of all the useful data that will be gleened from tragic accidents.This can be used to make future structural and technical changes in the cars and trucks so they become even more safe.
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You are obviously misinformed.

Enjoy your misinformed life.

Sayonara.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Enjoy yours

Ytaunt
 Quoting: RoXY


You are obviously misinformed.

Enjoy your misinformed life.

Sayonara.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Enjoy yours

Ytaunt
 Quoting: RoXY


I love that pic!
It is still a great day!
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I love that pic!
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It's an 8 year old kid supporting the famous Rotterdam soccer club Feijenoord.

The (lucky) shot was made 12 years ago.

And the kid's still a fanatical fan.
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How bout the traffic police and the auto industrie ansnobama suck my cock and swallow it then stickout there tounge to verify... asshats fucktards.

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