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ALL started back in the late 1960s, when federal government, via Department of Education got involved with 'Free Money' to those schools THEY deemed were teaching what THEY wanted ! With the 'grants'/BRIBES they were handing out, many cities including Danbury, CT took the bate, as the school board ( political wing of Democrats in power ) saw a way to hold down tax increases for education in their communities, while OTHER ones paid the bill !

Once the fed had a stranglehold on the city, they became more and more involved in what was taught and HOW ! Like a drug pusher gives out free samples to initiate a new customer, THEN ups the ante.

Of course the state was next to fall in line with interference .... new rules, new strategies IMPOSED, with politicians HAPPY to follow along.

I know because I WAS PART of that change over, even to the point where an assistant principle told me to dumb down my Introduction to Physical Science class, so dumber students could fit in and NOT fail ! Fought it and they eventually forced me out with continuous hounding/threats and unfounded charges !

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5a

Hey Eagle we have something in common. Both of us have first hand knowledge of what and how it has taken place. I disagree on the early part of your analysis. The Fed was pretty limited in its incursions. Limited to Math/Science/Special Ed as I recall. From my perspective it has been mainly the States that have sanctioned the majority of this bullshit. Here in MI the State took control with the funds all paid to the State who then doled them out supposedly on a more equal basis (wealthy vs poorer) Districts. The State had already instituted a statewide Test which it would then use to control CURRCULUM. Since this time it has been all downhill with the patients in charge of the asylum.
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I liketechnology. However I do not trust it any longer.
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Books are the only thing keeping everybody honest.

Too much is edited with use of computors.

They are rewriting everything.

Keep your old books. Thay are the only real truth left.
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Truth!
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According to vocabulary tests, Californian fourth grade and eighth grade students are almost at the bottom of the list, excepting just a very few other states; and this, despite heavy injections of vast sums of money.

So they found a solution !

"The test, known as the Nation’s Report Card, also showed that California is doing worse than states spending less on education.

So much for lack of money being a problem.

Then there was the school-board meeting I attended where there was a complete computer presentation of a new method of teaching that is now being implemented in the schools.

I had no idea what they were talking about.

They explained classes would be reconfigured, curriculum content was being revised, teachers are being retrained on how to teach and what to teach, how every student would have a laptop, books were to be virtually phased out – but some new books would be created for this whole new education system.

We were told it would take a couple of years to get everything in place, but by the time that happens, it would be in every school and every grade in California."

So books and outdated teaching methods are being blamed.

Are they sure a certain change of mentality in pupils and parents didn't play a part in it ?

And pres. Obama, according to the article, seems to be mighty proud of this "accomplishment."

[link to www.wnd.com]
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We are going to have the same problem in France, our freemason left Minister, Vincent Peillon hopes that in a near future every pupil has his laptop computer or his tablet and this before the end of five-year term, also he would like to decrease in half the rate of redoubling!
A future world of illiterates

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another do
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"3. - Let us fill the inner void of that youth by initiating, from a very young age, the world of computers. Use this as its education system. A slave in the service of another slave we control."

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Porn,porn,porn I don't like.Perhaps things are brighter in future.I will hold onto my happy thought of golden age.
Wont work, give out those laptops with no books, kids will just surf porn, play games or use Facebook...
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Good luck with that. Let us know how it works out for you.

:)
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Books are the only thing keeping everybody honest.

Too much is edited with use of computors.

They are rewriting everything.

Keep your old books. Thay are the only real truth left.
 Quoting: TrinityMountain


Before the communists infiltrated we were teaching the truth without fear of political correctness or brainwashing, but the commies have finally won :(





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Do the commies like gays in their agenda?
If you woke up breathing, you have another chance!
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According to vocabulary tests, Californian fourth grade and eighth grade students are almost at the bottom of the list, excepting just a very few other states; and this, despite heavy injections of vast sums of money.

So they found a solution !

"The test, known as the Nation’s Report Card, also showed that California is doing worse than states spending less on education.

So much for lack of money being a problem.

Then there was the school-board meeting I attended where there was a complete computer presentation of a new method of teaching that is now being implemented in the schools.

I had no idea what they were talking about.

They explained classes would be reconfigured, curriculum content was being revised, teachers are being retrained on how to teach and what to teach, how every student would have a laptop, books were to be virtually phased out – but some new books would be created for this whole new education system.

We were told it would take a couple of years to get everything in place, but by the time that happens, it would be in every school and every grade in California."

So books and outdated teaching methods are being blamed.

Are they sure a certain change of mentality in pupils and parents didn't play a part in it ?

And pres. Obama, according to the article, seems to be mighty proud of this "accomplishment."

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29475498



We are going to have the same problem in France, our freemason left Minister, Vincent Peillon hopes that in a near future every pupil has his laptop computer or his tablet and this before the end of five-year term, also he would like to decrease in half the rate of redoubling!
A future world of illiterates

[link to www.rmc.fr]


another do
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Giving a kid a laptop only is like handing out a textbook with centerfolds , crossword puzzles, comics,

Who in the world is going to study when all the social media and fun is a click away?
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Wont work, give out those laptops with no books, kids will just surf porn, play games or use Facebook...
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We put a K-9 control on our daughter's computer after we discovered she did find a porn site. It's easy enough to put controls on school computers before they are ever passed out. However, the IPads are much better, smaller and easy to carry around. Currently our daughter has a back-pack that is easily 20 lbs along with the notebook and books she carries in her arms every single day. Personally, if the books were available on an IPad this would be a good thing with the hard copies in the library or available for sale. However, I prefer books for reading (bought a kindle and thought it a waste of money because of the battery running out and not being able to tell what page number I was on). I like writing in the margin of study books I owned in college. Anyway, they both have their uses.

Just for the record - our 16 year old has had a laptop for a few years and is on her 4th book which is being published. Giving a kid a laptop can also accelerate intellectual pursuits if properly guided.

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Books are the only thing keeping everybody honest.

Too much is edited with use of computors.

They are rewriting everything.

Keep your old books. Thay are the only real truth left.
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The movie Equilibrium comes to mind, where it is an offence to feel and to have any item that promotes a feeling.
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Stop teaching them to memorize and instead teach them to think and apply all to what their own minds relate apply it to...

Find the why in all things instead of demanding the what.

Who cares if you can camp out the what from your forced into memory even to the question on a test giving me an answer....even by this same old worn out tired of repetitive way action memorized.


Who cares is you know how....to give me a what.

You give me the why to all that is.

Then you apply that why to what ever comes out of your own mind spontaneously with the what standing as the conclusion.

You step out the way your own way...

You give me the what your own what...

Home school in hell apply this to all from humanities to math to writing to acting to war to construction to government to economics.

No such thing as honoring ancient peoples and places honoring history in every thing you do or are shown..
No need in glamorizing and worshiping the man or woman who had a thought..

This is a waste of time...and misdirected character.


Who cares about what is not any more....it is gone long gone.

Who care about what they did or have...whats that got to do with you.

Whats that got to do with what is not as of yet.

Because all of that comes from you...yous.

Here's the core of what is now in all things.
Do you see the why it still is.
Do you see what it is and is doing.

Now forget that which you saw and do your own thing.

Even by undoing that what that is...by your own why.

And doing it your own way.
Somethings are good cores and you add to this build on them..some not.

That was how we did our son.

And he is hated.
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BREIF, I could not have said it better myself!
But I would have added 'Affirmative Action' as another root cause, as it lowered 'all' standards in order to accommodate the lower IQ's and primitive societal norms.
Before the communists infiltrated we were teaching the truth without fear of political correctness or brainwashing, but the commies have finally won :(

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Your right, ANONYMOUS .... It was mainly science, etc. AND the state DID step in with their standardized tests, along WITH their curriculum controls !

From then on, school was VERY afraid of their slightest reaction to any 'oversight' the school might have made. Mistakenly started ONE portion of a state test five minutes early. You would have thought I had given the Russians ALL our nuclear secrets with that one act. Unbelievable the dance the principle went through after that. Same one who came in drunk, reeking of whiskey, after closing hours, taking multiple women to out of state bars, while still married ! Had a family eye witness to that one.

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The problem with California shools is Marijauna. The schools are overrun with weed. The kids are all stoned and that is why the school system is failing. Legal weed is a curse that is ruining are youth. I know from experience. They can make all the changes they want but weed will keep the kids stupid. California is a Narco state at this point.
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In thinking about how valuable education is in cultivating the next generation of Americans, my mind took me back nearly twenty years to when I was a graduate student functioning as a substitute teacher at La Puente High School in Southern California. On one assignment, I was to cover a social studies class of some old-timer; he had written down in his instructions that since his classes were on a field trip, my sole duty was to show a movie at 6th period to those who did not attend. What I found that day opened my eyes.
In a dusty corner shelf of the room was a set of thirty-year-old textbooks from the mid-1960s, and although my memory cannot now relinquish their title, their contents burned themselves into my brain. As I flipped through the pages, I was astonished to find what I would now consider an upper-level college textbook under color of what in the high schools used to be termed "civics." This text contained a very detailed understanding of political theory, constitutional law, macroeconomics, American history, and comparative political systems. I spent the rest of the day in slack-jawed amazement, perusing what a student in a working-class town was expected to know before the mavens of education began tinkering with the curricula of our schools.


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You should see some of the 8th grade math books from the late 1800s.
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Books are real, you see it printed black on white. The internet (and IT generally) is volatile and ephemerous, and if it wasn't already, is being turned into a means for lying and make-believe. Look at Wikipedia. Anybody and their cat can change or write anything they want. This is no way to perpetuate knowledge, is it ?
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With the exclusion of math and music, we're not being taught 'knowledge'. We're being taught theories and lies.
Knowledge isn't taught, it's realized.

We're all placed in these little boxes, being taught the same shit (theories and lies) and in order to pass, we have to memorize this shit (theories and lies) then pass it off as truth.
We then grow up reciting this shit (theories and lies) as if it were truth and when someone says something outside the stifling boxes that we're stuck in and challenges us, they're ridiculed, ie, aliens.

That ain't wisdom. That's dogmatic bullshit.

Along with everything else, the veil is being lifted and we see most everything does not work and/or has an agenda. We just can't keep up with it all because all these systems are broken.
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Meanwhile in Putin's Russia:

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As an "older" student of higher education, I deplore the use of strictly computer-based, online education. Even though I take many online courses, I want my freaking textbooks! I took one class, in which the instructor informed us that there would be no textbook, just online content. I found a textbook that would correspond to the class, and did very well. Most of my classmates didn't, and they struggled through the entire semester.
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I live in California and when my son entered middle school two years ago, they gave them mini laptops (Netbooks), but no real books to take home. The books were electronic and uploaded to a website, so you have to go to the website to read. My son's laptop fell apart...keys fell off or wouldn't work. I think it may have locked up and stopped working.

This year my son entered high school and those same Netbooks were being offered only to the schoolkids who came from the same middle school as him. He refused the Netbook and asked for real books instead, which they still have at this time. He did not want to go through the hassle of dealing with another piece of crap again.

So yes, here in California, I guess they are phasing out books.
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By the way ..... on the books v.s. NO books question; I never taught with a book in ALL my classes ! Put information on the blackboards, two or three of them and had students copy same INTO a notebook, that I insisted they keep. THIS was their study guide, and I counted the grade of that notebook EQUAL to the final exam !
Naturally, we discussed what was written down, did EXPERIMENTS IN CLASS to confirm those results, especially in Chemistry and Physics (levers). Experiments gave children a CHANCE to get OUT of their seats and discuss the findings on the lab sheets. One should NEVER discount the learning that goes on BETWEEN students, WHEN they are allowed to converse.

Discovered as a student teacher, with an ALL boy 9th grade class of 32, some do NOT believe what they SEE you do right before their eyes. One boy actually said in class " That chemical reaction you just showed us didn't REALLY do that. YOU MADE IT DO IT !" That is why doing it themselves takes away those kind of doubts.

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A county near mine has gone to computer only instruction. My child has a friend in that county and they are both in the same grade. Listening to the two of them talk, I think my child's instruction is better. Sounds like the other county has resorted to easy multiple choice quizzes on the computer and has done away with creative at-home projects.


The other child says she has no homework now. My child does a ton of homework, and it is not just busy work.
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buy your children books

encourage them to read

in many states many classes are now mandatory to take that class on line there is no more class room teacher

save a teachers job!

kids can figure out how to cheat on line too for these classes..

its very important for parents to be involved with the children do not depend on the system

if they are are in your belly READ to them
if they are little read a book to them every night before bed



some day there will be no more teachers... it will be a bot or computer teaching your kid



they are already doing this with soldiers who are coming home who are now visiting an online therapy *sims* a BOT to speak too..



keep being human people

dont become a a BOT!
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What to do?To live in past?Life is a road to future not past.Although some past age may appeal attractive to us we cant go back only front.
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If you have no foundation, you're doomed to fail. These kids lack fundamental skills like reading, penmanship, grammar, and arithmetic.
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The ancients - Greeks, Romans - were much, much wiser in this respect than we are today. Even up to, say, a century ago, society was aware of the importance of these skills. Young generations today are commonly fed the idea that past humanity consisted of stupid, retarded ignoramuses.
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5a

I fully agree with any and all of the replies above. The stupidity of this move is unequaled. We have been dumbing down the essential curriculum for 30 years now. I assume we are really looking at a cost saving measure here. The damn bean counters and supposed curriculum co-ordinators will be the death of what once was a stellar program.
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Not a cost-saving measure. Dumbing down is the objective for the NWO. They can't control educated people. In dictatorships, the first casualties are artists and intellectuals. They are either imprisoned or shot, usually the latter.

I graduated in 1963. My generation was the last generation to get a good public education. The teacher's word was law and if you failed too many tests, you stayed back a year. No pussy-footing around. You either did the work or you failed. Tests were administered to determine how much you learned. It was NOT about test scores. If you were bound for college, you either passed the entrance exams or you didn't. If you didn't, you weren't admitted at that time.

In school we were taught civics, how our government worked and why. Newspapers then were the government watchdogs. Government couldn't get away with much in those days. Politicians on the stump talked about what they were going to do once elected to office. Mud-slinging was practically unheard of and Congress-critters actually worked for us.

We were also taught state history and American history so we wouldn't make the same mistakes in the future that were made in the past. Fat chance of that now.

In English Lit were were taught to figure out what an author's theme was, what the author meant, not how we felt about it. It opened our minds to a variety of thoughts and impressions. Once that door was opened, it could never close again. We were taught to seek knowledge, not shy away from it. I'm still seeking knowledge, and will do so until I am no longer able to.

It's terrible how we've let the politicians and the elite eat away our freedoms and have done nothing to stop them. We will wake up one day, prisoners in our own country.
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No, it's the lazy fucking Hispanic anchor babies that are bringing it all down.

They overflow the classroom with 25 fucking Mexicans and there's only 15 other nationalities.

On top of that, they speak English fucking horribly. They don't care about school, and make it harder for everyone else in the class to learn.


It's pathetic.

Anchor babies are killing our educational system.

No more anchor babies.

If both your parents are citizens of another country, even if you're born here, you SHOULD NOT BE A CITIZEN.
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I had no idea what they were talking about.

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06120437491t9 I do. Behind all the fancy words is the fact that NWO cattle don't need a vocabulary of more than 600 words, and very basic maths. That's the price you pay when you sit their in silence and allow prayer and proper religious education to be taken out of the school system.
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According to vocabulary tests, Californian fourth grade and eighth grade students are almost at the bottom of the list, excepting just a very few other states; and this, despite heavy injections of vast sums of money.

So they found a solution !

"The test, known as the Nation’s Report Card, also showed that California is doing worse than states spending less on education.

So much for lack of money being a problem.

Then there was the school-board meeting I attended where there was a complete computer presentation of a new method of teaching that is now being implemented in the schools.

I had no idea what they were talking about.

They explained classes would be reconfigured, curriculum content was being revised, teachers are being retrained on how to teach and what to teach, how every student would have a laptop, books were to be virtually phased out – but some new books would be created for this whole new education system.

We were told it would take a couple of years to get everything in place, but by the time that happens, it would be in every school and every grade in California."

So books and outdated teaching methods are being blamed.

Are they sure a certain change of mentality in pupils and parents didn't play a part in it ?

And pres. Obama, according to the article, seems to be mighty proud of this "accomplishment."

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29475498


that means...it all will be online...they will do away with everything we grew up with...classrooms, band, proms, how to interact with other people....this is what we get for a state education system..oh yeah...parents..will be gone..our total social structure is about to be done away with for some grand experiment in the rigtheous world of libs..
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The problem with California shools is Marijauna. The schools are overrun with weed. The kids are all stoned and that is why the school system is failing. Legal weed is a curse that is ruining are youth. I know from experience. They can make all the changes they want but weed will keep the kids stupid. California is a Narco state at this point.
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Wrong.

The problem is too many fucking hispanic kids with parents who are Mexican nationals.

They speak Spanish all day, then get to school and can't speak fucking English.

They bring everyone else in the class down.
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A county near mine has gone to computer only instruction. My child has a friend in that county and they are both in the same grade. Listening to the two of them talk, I think my child's instruction is better. Sounds like the other county has resorted to easy multiple choice quizzes on the computer and has done away with creative at-home projects.


The other child says she has no homework now. My child does a ton of homework, and it is not just busy work.
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Also ... we are in the "poorer" county.

My children's classes do have "smartboards," which my children laugh at. They say the boards malfunction a lot. They also have mentioned stupid activities that are done on them. I wish I could give examples, but I can't remember any at this moment. They also think it is ridiculous that some boards have been placed on top of the whiteboards where teachers used to write.
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According to vocabulary tests, Californian fourth grade and eighth grade students are almost at the bottom of the list, excepting just a very few other states; and this, despite heavy injections of vast sums of money.

So they found a solution !

"The test, known as the Nation’s Report Card, also showed that California is doing worse than states spending less on education.

So much for lack of money being a problem.

Then there was the school-board meeting I attended where there was a complete computer presentation of a new method of teaching that is now being implemented in the schools.

I had no idea what they were talking about.

They explained classes would be reconfigured, curriculum content was being revised, teachers are being retrained on how to teach and what to teach, how every student would have a laptop, books were to be virtually phased out – but some new books would be created for this whole new education system.

We were told it would take a couple of years to get everything in place, but by the time that happens, it would be in every school and every grade in California."

So books and outdated teaching methods are being blamed.

Are they sure a certain change of mentality in pupils and parents didn't play a part in it ?

And pres. Obama, according to the article, seems to be mighty proud of this "accomplishment."

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29475498


I home schooled my sons and now my grand daughter. I use workbooks Khan Academy. Calvert school with the books first year and after that all my sons and now my grand daughter move at their own pace. I believe this is a good idea. Books are costly and out of date. Workbooks work far better the child can see at the end of the workbook the progress, their are not grades, if you miss one you go back and review it until you understand the concept. If looks as though this might be the way Calif is going. If a parent takes the time to know the child's needs they can help in their learning I prefer home school, but each parent has different circumcises. A little effort on the parents side helps alot. The old system needs to go.hf