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State of California school system gets rid of books

 
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If you have no foundation, you're doomed to fail. These kids lack fundamental skills like reading, penmanship, grammar, and arithmetic.

The future isn't Xbox and Youtube.
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The don't teach it in the Dallas Metroplex either. My son has terrible handwriting, and I wound up teaching it to him for no other reason then it does help with the problems he has (poor formation, word spacing, readability).

I also hate to tell you, most schools are back to trying to make the left handed kids right handed again. As a lefty, with a lefty, this has caused lots of arguments...and one of mine is in 8th grade.

Grammar: I went through 12 years of public school, and because I was a reader, I was placed in advanced classes for English and never once learned grammar. When I had to do summer school my Junior year, the teacher noticed and taught nothing but that all summer. She and I have both said that the summer was worth it because I actually learned something.
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Wont work, give out those laptops with no books, kids will just surf porn, play games or use Facebook...
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I think that's the point! They want the population Further dumbed down, and are now declaring war on books! Also, want children exposed to MORE EMF from computers and wifi so that they can have learning problems and physical ill health (like leukemia.)

My daughter is doing a naturopathy course via correspondence and has just been told the text books are to no longer be available. Everything is to be online - and it is called 'smart learning' - because they don't want to leave a carbon footprint - but are more than happy to subject people to harmful radiation in a maximum way.
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"Smart learning" indeed.

Marketing at its best !
This is how the populace is being conditioned,
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This may be an improper use of the word "conditioned" in English. In French, the word "conditionné" means something like "programmed" or "prepared" in English. That would be a better term, I think.
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If you have no foundation, you're doomed to fail. These kids lack fundamental skills like reading, penmanship, grammar, and arithmetic.

The future isn't Xbox and Youtube.
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My niece's son is in 5th grade and they are no longer teaching cursive handwriting in school in California. No more cursive handwriting!!!!!

I guess they'll now all communicate like "b4 u 4get me, BFF" or some such shit.
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By "cursive" handwriting, I suppose you mean the normal, usual way of shaping characters ? What's coming in its place then, writing in all capitals ? I don't understand this, it doesn't make sense.
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Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I think it's a shame that schools are moving onto laptops and ebook readers to teach the kids. I heard in Cincinnatti, they gave all their kids an ebook reader. What's going to happen when we do get hit with a CME from our lovely sun?

If we no longer print books and we have a worldwide power outage, we are going to lose all of that information...We will really go back to the Stone Age if that happens...

Scares the hell out of me.
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Not to the Stone Age, no; there are too many people around with all kinds of specialized knowledge in their heads and with all the experience and technical expertise of their careers. We wouldn't have to invent the wheel again nor the fire, not even gunpowser, optical lenses, steam engines or ways of producing electricity. Think of everything now known about architecture, medicine, agriculture, etc. etc... It would be a totally different deal this time around.
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Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I think it's a shame that schools are moving onto laptops and ebook readers to teach the kids. I heard in Cincinnatti, they gave all their kids an ebook reader. What's going to happen when we do get hit with a CME from our lovely sun?

If we no longer print books and we have a worldwide power outage, we are going to lose all of that information...We will really go back to the Stone Age if that happens...

Scares the hell out of me.
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Not to the Stone Age, no; there are too many people around with all kinds of specialized knowledge in their heads and with all the experience and technical expertise of their careers. We wouldn't have to invent the wheel again nor the fire, not even gunpowser, optical lenses, steam engines or ways of producing electricity. Think of everything now known about architecture, medicine, agriculture, etc. etc... It would be a totally different deal this time around.
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If a Carrington type event happens in our lifetime, it won't be so bad, as far as loss of knowledge...we'll be able to recover...if we continue to convert more and more to electronic only form and it happens in our great grandkids lifetime, it will be devastating. No, we won't have to reinvent the wheel, but we will lose soooo much valuable information.
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They're not going to teach things like cursive writing.
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My grand daughter has laptop and a I pad. She is in 2nd grade and going into 5th grade math. My other grandchildren do too. My sons all had computers they are now grown excelled in their grades went to college and are happy well rounded guys. If parents aren't involved in their children lives they are going to do whatever, with or without laptops.
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9teen So what's she gonna do when an EMP fries it's circuits.
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ALL started back in the late 1960s, when federal government, via Department of Education got involved with 'Free Money' to those schools THEY deemed were teaching what THEY wanted ! With the 'grants'/BRIBES they were handing out, many cities including Danbury, CT took the bate, as the school board ( political wing of Democrats in power ) saw a way to hold down tax increases for education in their communities, while OTHER ones paid the bill !

Once the fed had a stranglehold on the city, they became more and more involved in what was taught and HOW ! Like a drug pusher gives out free samples to initiate a new customer, THEN ups the ante.

Of course the state was next to fall in line with interference .... new rules, new strategies IMPOSED, with politicians HAPPY to follow along.

I know because I WAS PART of that change over, even to the point where an assistant principle told me to dumb down my Introduction to Physical Science class, so dumber students could fit in and NOT fail ! Fought it and they eventually forced me out with continuous hounding/threats and unfounded charges !

Eagle
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5a

Hey Eagle we have something in common. Both of us have first hand knowledge of what and how it has taken place. I disagree on the early part of your analysis. The Fed was pretty limited in its incursions. Limited to Math/Science/Special Ed as I recall. From my perspective it has been mainly the States that have sanctioned the majority of this bullshit. Here in MI the State took control with the funds all paid to the State who then doled them out supposedly on a more equal basis (wealthy vs poorer) Districts. The State had already instituted a statewide Test which it would then use to control CURRCULUM. Since this time it has been all downhill with the patients in charge of the asylum.
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Au contraire.

It ALL comes down from the federal level. Listen to whistleblower Charlotte Iserbyt, author of "The Intentional Dumbing Down of America." She worked in the Dept. of Education in the Reagan administration; she knows.
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Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I think it's a shame that schools are moving onto laptops and ebook readers to teach the kids. I heard in Cincinnatti, they gave all their kids an ebook reader. What's going to happen when we do get hit with a CME from our lovely sun?

If we no longer print books and we have a worldwide power outage, we are going to lose all of that information...We will really go back to the Stone Age if that happens...

Scares the hell out of me.
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Not to the Stone Age, no; there are too many people around with all kinds of specialized knowledge in their heads and with all the experience and technical expertise of their careers. We wouldn't have to invent the wheel again nor the fire, not even gunpowser, optical lenses, steam engines or ways of producing electricity. Think of everything now known about architecture, medicine, agriculture, etc. etc... It would be a totally different deal this time around.
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If a Carrington type event happens in our lifetime, it won't be so bad, as far as loss of knowledge...we'll be able to recover...if we continue to convert more and more to electronic only form and it happens in our great grandkids lifetime, it will be devastating. No, we won't have to reinvent the wheel, but we will lose soooo much valuable information.
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Maybe I didn't get your meaning, but I think you are kind of contradicting yourzelf : "it won't be so bad, as far as loss of knowledge" and "we will lose soooo much valuable information."

Could you pls clarify somewhat ?
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By "cursive" handwriting, I suppose you mean the normal, usual way of shaping characters ? What's coming in its place then, writing in all capitals ? I don't understand this, it doesn't make sense.
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Here is a sample of cursive.

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Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I think it's a shame that schools are moving onto laptops and ebook readers to teach the kids. I heard in Cincinnatti, they gave all their kids an ebook reader. What's going to happen when we do get hit with a CME from our lovely sun?

If we no longer print books and we have a worldwide power outage, we are going to lose all of that information...We will really go back to the Stone Age if that happens...

Scares the hell out of me.
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Not to the Stone Age, no; there are too many people around with all kinds of specialized knowledge in their heads and with all the experience and technical expertise of their careers. We wouldn't have to invent the wheel again nor the fire, not even gunpowser, optical lenses, steam engines or ways of producing electricity. Think of everything now known about architecture, medicine, agriculture, etc. etc... It would be a totally different deal this time around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29475498


If a Carrington type event happens in our lifetime, it won't be so bad, as far as loss of knowledge...we'll be able to recover...if we continue to convert more and more to electronic only form and it happens in our great grandkids lifetime, it will be devastating. No, we won't have to reinvent the wheel, but we will lose soooo much valuable information.
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Maybe I didn't get your meaning, but I think you are kind of contradicting yourzelf : "it won't be so bad, as far as loss of knowledge" and "we will lose soooo much valuable information."

Could you pls clarify somewhat ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29475498


Oh, sheesh...Seriously?

We are starting to convert to electronic school books...

It's just the start. If we have a Carrington Type event today, it will be terrible, but we'll still have many, many books in print that we can get ahold of to continue teaching our children. Those schools that are using only electronic form will suffer, but we'll be able to figure it out.

(Regardless of what most people's idea is of The End of the World or "bugging out," the truth is that we'll probably only have The End of the World as We Know It event and our children will eventually need to get back to "regular" activities, like learning.)

Anyhow, the more time goes on and the more we convert to electronic form, the less and less we'll have printed books...I believe Webster's has already stopped printing Encyclopedia's, but don't quote me on that, I've been known to be wrong before. Anyhow...

If, eventually, all schools convert to electronic form and we have a Carrington type event, it would be catastrophic in my opinion...

I'm saying that the more we convert to e-book, the worse it'll be IF and when we have an EMP event. Understand? Fifty years from now, there will be less and less printed books...It'll be like that movie The Book of Eli...watch it. :-)

I hope that clears up the confusion...
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Not to the Stone Age, no; there are too many people around with all kinds of specialized knowledge in their heads and with all the experience and technical expertise of their careers. We wouldn't have to invent the wheel again nor the fire, not even gunpowser, optical lenses, steam engines or ways of producing electricity. Think of everything now known about architecture, medicine, agriculture, etc. etc... It would be a totally different deal this time around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29475498


If a Carrington type event happens in our lifetime, it won't be so bad, as far as loss of knowledge...we'll be able to recover...if we continue to convert more and more to electronic only form and it happens in our great grandkids lifetime, it will be devastating. No, we won't have to reinvent the wheel, but we will lose soooo much valuable information.
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Maybe I didn't get your meaning, but I think you are kind of contradicting yourzelf : "it won't be so bad, as far as loss of knowledge" and "we will lose soooo much valuable information."

Could you pls clarify somewhat ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29475498


Oh, sheesh...Seriously?

We are starting to convert to electronic school books...

It's just the start. If we have a Carrington Type event today, it will be terrible, but we'll still have many, many books in print that we can get ahold of to continue teaching our children. Those schools that are using only electronic form will suffer, but we'll be able to figure it out.

(Regardless of what most people's idea is of The End of the World or "bugging out," the truth is that we'll probably only have The End of the World as We Know It event and our children will eventually need to get back to "regular" activities, like learning.)

Anyhow, the more time goes on and the more we convert to electronic form, the less and less we'll have printed books...I believe Webster's has already stopped printing Encyclopedia's, but don't quote me on that, I've been known to be wrong before. Anyhow...

If, eventually, all schools convert to electronic form and we have a Carrington type event, it would be catastrophic in my opinion...

I'm saying that the more we convert to e-book, the worse it'll be IF and when we have an EMP event. Understand? Fifty years from now, there will be less and less printed books...It'll be like that movie The Book of Eli...watch it. :-)

I hope that clears up the confusion...
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


Oh, and one more thing...why are you being so persnickity? Sheesh...
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Book of Eli, and The Postman

Glimpses into our future...
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What's the point of having them anyway? All of California's kids will be utterly illiterate when they leave anyway.
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What's the point of having them anyway? All of California's kids will be utterly illiterate when they leave anyway.
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In my ever so humble opinion...Books are one of life's greatest treasures!!!!!!
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I just bought both my kids books for Christmas.

I love them and would go insane without them. One kid loves the books, the other will read if he's interested. Part of that is parents who read and tell them to "look it up" while handing them a book.

Many parents don't have books in the house anymore, either. My husband is dyslexic, and he owns books (and reads them, however slowly), so what's the excuse?
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I just bought both my kids books for Christmas.

I love them and would go insane without them. One kid loves the books, the other will read if he's interested. Part of that is parents who read and tell them to "look it up" while handing them a book.

Many parents don't have books in the house anymore, either. My husband is dyslexic, and he owns books (and reads them, however slowly), so what's the excuse?
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Hehehe, I have seven bookshelves in the house jam packed with books and about 30 boxes of books in the garage...I think it's a crime to throw out books. :-)

I used to read every night to my two older ones...read every night to my 8 year old. That's the most special time in the world.
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