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I don't know where I stand regarding abortion, is it good or bad?

 
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I don't know where I stand regarding abortion, is it good or bad?
I understand that women get raped, don't have enough to maintain themselves and baby, or end up with babies that have health issues. These are all good enough reasons to justify abortion, but then life is compromised and the moral human condition is tossed aside.

I'm not sure where I stand, which is more right and which is more wrong? Do the reasons balance each other out? Where do you stand?
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Killing is wrong.
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Oh boy, here it goes....popcorn
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Killing is wrong.
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and you allow every bug you see to leave with their life intact?
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This should stir up some low vibrations...
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Re: I don't know where I stand regarding abortion, is it good or bad?
I understand that women get raped, don't have enough to maintain themselves and baby, or end up with babies that have health issues. These are all good enough reasons to justify abortion, but then life is compromised and the moral human condition is tossed aside.

I'm not sure where I stand, which is more right and which is more wrong? Do the reasons balance each other out? Where do you stand?
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I can't think of any reason to justify the killing of an unborn baby. The least anyone can do is give birth and give the baby up for adoption.
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depends on the situation.
is the child healthy?
would it harm the mother?
the usual stuff
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Killing is wrong.
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and you allow every bug you see to leave with their life intact?
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I said wrong, not evitable.
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From someone who has had one- it will haunt you the rest of your life -you pay for this sin daily -there is no getting over this one
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I understand that women get raped, don't have enough to maintain themselves and baby, or end up with babies that have health issues. These are all good enough reasons to justify abortion, but then life is compromised and the moral human condition is tossed aside.

I'm not sure where I stand, which is more right and which is more wrong? Do the reasons balance each other out? Where do you stand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20672383


Look at it this way (OP)
What a woman does with her body is up to her and her God. If she feels it's wrong, she'll keep it or send it out for adoption.

If she's a liberal or atheist, chances are good she'll kill it.
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depends on the situation.
is the child healthy?
would it harm the mother?
the usual stuff
 Quoting: Alufiend 29349120


That seems about right. I would think if a women were raped, or did not have the sufficient funds to survive on her own that she would do the morally right thing and put the baby up for adoption, but if she might die giving birth to it or if the baby has severe health issues then I would say it's justifiable to have an abortion, but then that's where I get confused.

Should the baby still be born even if it had health issues or if the mother might die? Is it morally wrong even with good enough reasons?
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Using abortion as a form of birth control is an abominable act.
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depends on the situation.
is the child healthy?
would it harm the mother?
the usual stuff
 Quoting: Alufiend 29349120


That seems about right. I would think if a women were raped, or did not have the sufficient funds to survive on her own that she would do the morally right thing and put the baby up for adoption, but if she might die giving birth to it or if the baby has severe health issues then I would say it's justifiable to have an abortion, but then that's where I get confused.

Should the baby still be born even if it had health issues or if the mother might die? Is it morally wrong even with good enough reasons?
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It is wrong in principle. Then you always have shades of grey. But how many of the hundreds of thousands of abortions have anything to do with medical issues? Very very few.
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I personally don't think any baby should ever be aborted. But i also would never support a law that bans abortion.
In my opinion, when you perform an abortion, you kill a human being. That is the simple fact.
I do not support legislation against abortion either. It is a decision that should be made by the would be parent.
Abortion is not a question of "reproductive rights" in my opinion it is a question of responsibility. Someone who was mature enought to make a child should be mature enough to raise it.

In cases of rape, I still believe you should have the baby. I don't think two wrongs make a right, it does not change anything about what happened, it just kills another human being.
But i would never harbor bad feelings towards those who were in the extreme situation of rape and chose abortion. I would encourage them to have the baby, it would bring joy into a life that might need some.
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Sometimes it is the humane thing to do, abortions ARE a necessary evil in some situations. It is a truth, a sad truth, but truth anyway.
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I understand that women get raped, don't have enough to maintain themselves and baby, or end up with babies that have health issues. These are all good enough reasons to justify abortion, but then life is compromised and the moral human condition is tossed aside.

I'm not sure where I stand, which is more right and which is more wrong? Do the reasons balance each other out? Where do you stand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20672383


As long as we are allowing cops to kill people, allowing soldiers to kill people, allowing people to kill in self-defense, allowing states and federal government to execute people, then I believe abortion is just another kind of killing that should be allowed, same as the ones I listed. I'm not going to get upset about a woman getting a legal abortion when there is all this other kind of legal killing going on all the time anyway.
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As long as we are allowing cops to kill people, allowing soldiers to kill people, allowing people to kill in self-defense, allowing states and federal government to execute people, then I believe abortion is just another kind of killing that should be allowed, same as the ones I listed. I'm not going to get upset about a woman getting a legal abortion when there is all this other kind of legal killing going on all the time anyway.
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Something I've had a hard time understanding is how the pro-life crowd is so fast to beat the war drums. If you're pro-life, why are you not pro-life in all aspects? Pro-lifers also love them some capital punishment.

I'm pro-life both for all those who are unborn, born, and reborn.
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As long as we are allowing cops to kill people, allowing soldiers to kill people, allowing people to kill in self-defense, allowing states and federal government to execute people, then I believe abortion is just another kind of killing that should be allowed, same as the ones I listed. I'm not going to get upset about a woman getting a legal abortion when there is all this other kind of legal killing going on all the time anyway.
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Something I've had a hard time understanding is how the pro-life crowd is so fast to beat the war drums. If you're pro-life, why are you not pro-life in all aspects? Pro-lifers also love them some capital punishment.

I'm pro-life both for all those who are unborn, born, and reborn.

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I know huh. I thought about that too. You'd think the Libs would be all for capital punishment. They don't have a problem with abortion. It doesn't make sense.
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what's bad is fucking ho's using themselves as cum dumpsters for every piece of shit wanna be gangsta "bad boy" they see...use birth control or just go down on a dude if you've got to have every dick that comes around.
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People have been killing post-birth, alive and well people throughout history - mainly through WAR.

My children will NOT be used in wars that some fucked-up old white men want to use to promote an agenda and make a shit pot of money. My children will NOT be used as tools to kill other people because the government offers them phony glory, three hots and a cot. Fuck 'em.

However, unless you're a woman, you will NEVER know what it is like to face an abortion. There are many factors involved. Shit happens. Mistakes are made. Economics play a HUGE part.

Another reason why the Republicans lost the election. Women are not to be used as breeders with no control over their lives and their choice of birth control.

If you want more kids born, treat women as sacred. They're the reason we ALL here, just in case you forgot.
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I understand that women get raped, don't have enough to maintain themselves and baby, or end up with babies that have health issues. These are all good enough reasons to justify abortion, but then life is compromised and the moral human condition is tossed aside.

I'm not sure where I stand, which is more right and which is more wrong? Do the reasons balance each other out? Where do you stand?
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You obviously don't have children. Have you ever held a helpless little baby who's life depends on nothing other than your own humanity?

That should be enough for anybody to WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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Trust me, you would know where to stand if you lived in a family that didn't want kids :(
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You are either FOR murder...or AGAINST IT!!! What part of " THOU SHALL NOT KILL" dont ppl understand? There isnt a clause in there that says " unless your raped its ok... .or if the baby has downs syndrome its ok...THOU SHALL NOT is pretty clear!
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I understand that women get raped, don't have enough to maintain themselves and baby, or end up with babies that have health issues. These are all good enough reasons to justify abortion, but then life is compromised and the moral human condition is tossed aside.

I'm not sure where I stand, which is more right and which is more wrong? Do the reasons balance each other out? Where do you stand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20672383


You obviously don't have children. Have you ever held a helpless little baby who's life depends on nothing other than your own humanity?

That should be enough for anybody to WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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Never heard a man state it better than RIGHT HERE!! We need more " MEN" like this guy!!!
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That is question only the woman carrying the baby has a right to ask. No woman has the right to ask that question of anyone else but herself.

I had a lneighbour who waived the signs and judged others while threatening them with "God's" vengeance while totally neglecting and abusing her own children.

Every child also has the right to be wanted and loved, not just brought into the world and then forgotten.

Adoption? Are you serious? Take a second look at how many children who are born "less than perfect" get a loving home. Why are there so many children in foster care and abused when there are so many childless couples needing to be parents? Oh yeah, the majority wanted perfect infants or foreign babies?

When we as a society begin to care about each other rather just trying to force our ideology on others we will fix the problems that lead to any child being unwanted.

Until that happens, until we say a LOUD no to ALL killing we have no right to be hypocrites and try and force our flawed morality on another.
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That is question only the woman carrying the baby has a right to ask. No woman has the right to ask that question of anyone else but herself.

I had a lneighbour who waived the signs and judged others while threatening them with "God's" vengeance while totally neglecting and abusing her own children.

Every child also has the right to be wanted and loved, not just brought into the world and then forgotten.

Adoption? Are you serious? Take a second look at how many children who are born "less than perfect" get a loving home. Why are there so many children in foster care and abused when there are so many childless couples needing to be parents? Oh yeah, the majority wanted perfect infants or foreign babies?

When we as a society begin to care about each other rather just trying to force our ideology on others we will fix the problems that lead to any child being unwanted.

Until that happens, until we say a LOUD no to ALL killing we have no right to be hypocrites and try and force our flawed morality on another.
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Well said, I agree.

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