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Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?

 
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Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
If marriage is/was (originally) a church function, why does it have anything to do with government? Or letus say: why does government have anything to do with marriage.
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
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^^^^THIS^^^^
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
 Quoting: Alufiend 29349120


^^^^THIS^^^^
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


What is the woman supposed to do when she has devoted her life to a man who turned out to be a fraud? She might have ended her career and sacrificed her career to support a man who turned out to be a buster, and then what? Now they have kids, and she supposed to just be out on her ass? Are you serious? Now, this goes in reverse if the female is the breadwinner. I am not partial either way, I actually live next to a stay at home dad. All this internet woman hate needs to sit in time out and drink some warm Similac, maybe go down for a nap after that...
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
It is meant to "enslave" both man and woman. This "enslavement" is about them setting apart their personal interests and raising children together. That's what marriage is about.
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
More like a trick to enslave men. Pregnancy enslaves women. Hard for them to get away from their own bodies. Marriage is made to keep men in the picture.
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
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^^^^THIS^^^^
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


What is the woman supposed to do when she has devoted her life to a man who turned out to be a fraud? She might have ended her career and sacrificed her career to support a man who turned out to be a buster, and then what? Now they have kids, and she supposed to just be out on her ass? Are you serious? Now, this goes in reverse if the female is the breadwinner. I am not partial either way, I actually live next to a stay at home dad. All this internet woman hate needs to sit in time out and drink some warm Similac, maybe go down for a nap after that...
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Of course hating Men is okay... especially all the Man hating that has been going on since the early 1960s.

What goes around comes around, women, those of you that bash and hate men, and there are many such to be seen responding so such threads as this one.

Here's a novel idea, equality for men and women. What a concept.
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
 Quoting: Alufiend 29349120


^^^^THIS^^^^
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


What is the woman supposed to do when she has devoted her life to a man who turned out to be a fraud? She might have ended her career and sacrificed her career to support a man who turned out to be a buster, and then what? Now they have kids, and she supposed to just be out on her ass? Are you serious? Now, this goes in reverse if the female is the breadwinner. I am not partial either way, I actually live next to a stay at home dad. All this internet woman hate needs to sit in time out and drink some warm Similac, maybe go down for a nap after that...
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I've watched enough ID to know that theres a lot of crazy men AND women out there that trap each other with marriage. However, I don't think there is a case of "russian mail order husbad", is there?
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
The only role the State should even have in regards to marriage is as a Keeper of Record.... same as with divorce.

Of course even then one can ask the issues of Polygamy and Polyandry and even Polyarmory.. well? Should the State be granted the power or do the People have the individual right to deside just who and how many they are going to marry?

It seems a fair enough question now that 'same-sex' and such is now wide open game for marriage.. why not polygamy and polyandery and polyarmory... I mean since the MSM and all that rot have decided that they have the right and power to decide who can be married to whom.. and such.
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
its to enslave both! keep them working, paying taxes and keep them in the system
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
 Quoting: Alufiend 29349120


^^^^THIS^^^^
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


What is the woman supposed to do when she has devoted her life to a man who turned out to be a fraud? She might have ended her career and sacrificed her career to support a man who turned out to be a buster, and then what? Now they have kids, and she supposed to just be out on her ass? Are you serious? Now, this goes in reverse if the female is the breadwinner. I am not partial either way, I actually live next to a stay at home dad. All this internet woman hate needs to sit in time out and drink some warm Similac, maybe go down for a nap after that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1324238

Of course hating Men is okay... especially all the Man hating that has been going on since the early 1960s.

What goes around comes around, women, those of you that bash and hate men, and there are many such to be seen responding so such threads as this one.

Here's a novel idea, equality for men and women. What a concept.
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You need to slow your roll real fast playboy, because where did you see ME bash any man? I said, I can SEE BOTH sides of the equation, and no matter who the breadwinner is, M or F, the primary caregiver at home with the kids should not be on their ass after things turn sour. That shit is bogus. No it just so happens that more women than men are primary at home caregivers and carers of the home. That IS a job, and if the man/woman decides their partner is no longer wanted, they should get enough proceeds to stay on their feet.

And YES marriage is a fucking trap for all parties involved imho. Don't do it. I do not believe humans should be monogamous. That shit is boring as fuck. Who wants the same tired ass dick or putty cat for YEARS? Suppose you are a woman who marries a man 10 years your senior...once he hits about 40+ and that low T kicks in, and the woman is rearing to go at 30 something, that is an affair waiting to happen because she will be like a she-cat in heat chained to a limp dick that can't deliver. Same thing for a man married to a chick who won't give up the goods. Who should live like that? Flesh-lites and plastic willies are good, but ain't nothing like the real thing baby. I speak from vast experience...
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
 Quoting: Alufiend 29349120


I love it when I hear that^ shit.

I get no child support, never got alimony, he didn't lose half of his shit (I paid for his shit by the way because I made more money), he kept the house, he threw away his children.

Woe is me..ALL men are victims. Women are never abused, never taken for granted. Never asked to devote all of their time to the household and children and then 20 yrs later left with absolutely nothing and no way to make a decent living when the marriage ends. Perhaps alimony is due, child support most definitely is. Not all women are the enemy and most men certainly aren't victims.

You fuckers bitch about misandry but you seem to be perfectly content wallowing in your misogynistic pity parties. How does that work? How is it ok to spew such bitterness and hatred at an entire sex and then turn around and freak the fuck out when it's given back in return?

Think about what men did to women since the beginning of time and then come back and bitch some more about a few decades of women having the leg up on you. There is really no comparison.

Funny thing is I generally agree that men don't always get a fair shake but this whining and the hate thrown around at women constantly wears thin.
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
Nope, marraige was created by men that couldn't keep women. These same men creat weapons, the money system, and "civilization." All because their physical stature wasn't good for reproducing (based on instinct no woman would want to mate with them).
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
no its a trick to enslave men.

if it was to trick women, then why does the guy lose half his assets in a divorce?

why do they keep the kids?

why does the guy pay alimony and child support?

why does the courts allow this even when after paying all the support the guy earns less than the poverty line? and can't get gov support because he has a job, while there are lots of financial aid for women with kids.

feminism won. but just wait, it will backfire on them like these things always do
 Quoting: Alufiend 29349120


^^^^THIS^^^^
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


What is the woman supposed to do when she has devoted her life to a man who turned out to be a fraud? She might have ended her career and sacrificed her career to support a man who turned out to be a buster, and then what? Now they have kids, and she supposed to just be out on her ass? Are you serious? Now, this goes in reverse if the female is the breadwinner. I am not partial either way, I actually live next to a stay at home dad. All this internet woman hate needs to sit in time out and drink some warm Similac, maybe go down for a nap after that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1324238


I've watched enough ID to know that theres a lot of crazy men AND women out there that trap each other with marriage. However, I don't think there is a case of "russian mail order husbad", is there?
 Quoting: Sneetch


I feel your pain and suffering...I mainly threw in the fairly non existent example of the at home dad because they *do* exist, and they sometimes *do* get burned by a female spouse that decides to head for greener pastures and has the bulk of the $$$. It's jacked either which way it goes. I tell anyone, don't get married...and go figure, I am married. It's a trap and it's fucking sick. You devote your life to a human who is subject to CHANGE, we all change, and not all change is for the better. What happens if your spouse gets depressed after an injury, won't take therapy, decides to marinate in his own juices like a petulant child and has no desire to get better? A legend in his own mind that maybe delivers at work, but comes home a DUD for you to clean and cook for. Might as well be one of the kids...

I can't give testimony for the male side of this misery, but I do recognize there are good men out there suffering the same effects from this farce. Then it's so hard to start over due to the legalities of marriage. It's easy for people to say "Just leave them" but it's hard to do that. That song "cheaper to keep her" comes to mind...
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Re: Is Legalized Marriage a Trick To Enslave Women?
I love it when I hear that^ shit.

I get no child support, never got alimony, he didn't lose half of his shit (I paid for his shit by the way because I made more money), he kept the house, he threw away his children.

Woe is me..ALL men are victims. Women are never abused, never taken for granted. Never asked to devote all of their time to the household and children and then 20 yrs later left with absolutely nothing and no way to make a decent living when the marriage ends. Perhaps alimony is due, child support most definitely is. Not all women are the enemy and most men certainly aren't victims.

You fuckers bitch about misandry but you seem to be perfectly content wallowing in your misogynistic pity parties. How does that work? How is it ok to spew such bitterness and hatred at an entire sex and then turn around and freak the fuck out when it's given back in return?

Think about what men did to women since the beginning of time and then come back and bitch some more about a few decades of women having the leg up on you. There is really no comparison.

Funny thing is I generally agree that men don't always get a fair shake but this whining and the hate thrown around at women constantly wears thin.
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