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Power grab??? USDA Wants to Expand Protection for American Indian ‘Sacred Places’ on Public Lands

 
Laura Bow (OP)

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12/11/2012 11:45 AM
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agenda 21, they will not allow any private ownership of land.

the powers in charge will own it all, and allow whatever as they see fit for production of food, tenants etc

everyone will be living in cities, on top of one another

its headed that way folks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27129259


It's already here for some states :(

Thread: Agenda 21 is written WITHIN the Pennsylvania state code, it IS here - mark properties they wish to acquire!
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I think this an interesting article OP and thx for sharing it.

I remain on the fence with an opinion.

People are quick to take sides of the Indian because it is PC, instead of looking at both sides....

I think people in general, whether it be the fed govt or the Indians, could both stand to take better care of this nations land.

I have seen and been on and around many reservations.....in many states, and grew up in AZ, and let me tell you....they aren't pretty. The land is not taken care of the way it should be....some of it is so sad to see.....the ghetto land on the reservation is as bad as the ghettos in the inner cities we see....

Also, fed govt trying to make a buck of course .....of the land...... That is bad, but so do the Indians.....

Pretty soon there will be almost as many Indian casinos as there are walmarts.


Another thing.....maybe this would stop them selling stuff to the Chinese. This is why I absolutely refuse to go on the skywalk.....it's owned by Chinese. How could the Indians sell any part of of our land to them is beyond me. They charge you 100 bucks to take a pic of you there, u can't use your own camera for Christ sakes, and its like 100 plus bucks for fees to even get in....I could go on and on...and now the Indians are not paying back the china developer, so where is all the money going? What happens when they don't pay it back?

So you see there are two sides to everything.

The Indians (modern day) leaders can be just as sharky as our govt leaders.
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12/11/2012 11:49 AM
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There is no such thing as an "American Indian."

Clovis Man shows Whites were here long before people of color showed up causing crime. They all need to get out of our country and walk back to Asia.
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12/11/2012 11:54 AM
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Here's a PDF link of the actual report, I haven't looked at it yet -

[link to www.fs.fed.us]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


From link, this smells like Agenda 21....



That statement is core to the American people and to the Forest Service. While most Americans live in urban areas, we are also dependent upon rural lands, particularly forest lands, for clean water and a healthy climate. To AI/AN people, “special places” are often sources of cultural, spiritual, sacrosanct connections to the land. For these reasons, conserving forests and grasslands is not a luxury; it is a necessity. Yet America's forests today are threatened like never before. Climate change, catastrophic fires, diseases and pests, and the transformation of working forest lands to increasingly fragmented private parcels have all led to declining ecosystem health. All of these changes have enormous impacts on ecosystems and local economies.18 As the health, integrity, and connectedness of forests are threatened, so too are AI/AN sacred sites.
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You're right.... AGENDA 21.

This is nothing more than white man and others with forked tongue stealing land from The People yet again.

The Sacred Hoop of the Nation will be restored.

=Black Elk; Lakota=
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Soon to be a tax haven for corporations.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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12/11/2012 01:11 PM
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I keep seeing the word sacred lately in the news.
The Gov has it's own definition, eh, ha ha ha.
They definitely have an ulterior motive, though, best of luck to all.
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So if it were to be your cow pasture that somebody says is a sacred site you'd be SOL and eminent domained?

Or is it limited to public land? They could close down Yellowstone or the Sequoia Ntl Forest if it came to that?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Well, it was never your cow pasture in the first place.

Why American whites get so offended when native Americans get more rights and recognition is something I will never understand. You do realize you have committed the worst genocide on earth against these people, and that whatever land you believe is yours you simply stole from them, don't you?
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they were conquered.
Since when does a conquered nation get free hand-outs?
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12/11/2012 01:29 PM
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There is no such thing as an "American Indian."

Clovis Man shows Whites were here long before people of color showed up causing crime. They all need to get out of our country and walk back to Asia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 580163


Compare the Clovis Man complete 3 billion base pair DNA with your own "White" self, in all its 3 Billion base pairs of your own DNA, and perhaps you may discover you aren't even White.

Racist and Racism is a dying cause. The Eugenicism is what is replacing it. Get your head out of teh 18th and 19th Century and join the 21st Century.
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12/11/2012 01:32 PM
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Here's a PDF link of the actual report, I haven't looked at it yet -

[link to www.fs.fed.us]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


From link, this smells like Agenda 21....



That statement is core to the American people and to the Forest Service. While most Americans live in urban areas, we are also dependent upon rural lands, particularly forest lands, for clean water and a healthy climate. To AI/AN people, “special places” are often sources of cultural, spiritual, sacrosanct connections to the land. For these reasons, conserving forests and grasslands is not a luxury; it is a necessity. Yet America's forests today are threatened like never before. Climate change, catastrophic fires, diseases and pests, and the transformation of working forest lands to increasingly fragmented private parcels have all led to declining ecosystem health. All of these changes have enormous impacts on ecosystems and local economies.18 As the health, integrity, and connectedness of forests are threatened, so too are AI/AN sacred sites.
 Quoting: Laura Bow



You're right.... AGENDA 21.

This is nothing more than white man and others with forked tongue stealing land from The People yet again.

The Sacred Hoop of the Nation will be restored.

=Black Elk; Lakota=
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2886

As the Great White Father in the Vatican has Prophesized and mandated to come to pass. You've all been looking at the wrong Great White Father in thinking it was the US Presidency, its not, it was the Vatican and its Jesuit Pope. Sitting Bull knew that.
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12/11/2012 05:53 PM
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I think this an interesting article OP and thx for sharing it.

I remain on the fence with an opinion.

People are quick to take sides of the Indian because it is PC, instead of looking at both sides....

I think people in general, whether it be the fed govt or the Indians, could both stand to take better care of this nations land.

I have seen and been on and around many reservations.....in many states, and grew up in AZ, and let me tell you....they aren't pretty. The land is not taken care of the way it should be....some of it is so sad to see.....the ghetto land on the reservation is as bad as the ghettos in the inner cities we see....

Also, fed govt trying to make a buck of course .....of the land...... That is bad, but so do the Indians.....

Pretty soon there will be almost as many Indian casinos as there are walmarts.


Another thing.....maybe this would stop them selling stuff to the Chinese. This is why I absolutely refuse to go on the skywalk.....it's owned by Chinese. How could the Indians sell any part of of our land to them is beyond me. They charge you 100 bucks to take a pic of you there, u can't use your own camera for Christ sakes, and its like 100 plus bucks for fees to even get in....I could go on and on...and now the Indians are not paying back the china developer, so where is all the money going? What happens when they don't pay it back?

So you see there are two sides to everything.

The Indians (modern day) leaders can be just as sharky as our govt leaders.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


They're actually not Indians...
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