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Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?

 
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
The real key is to scripturally determine who/what is actually Israel. Originally, Jacob wrestled with God and received the name of "Israel", along with a limp and a new perspective, through which he was able to see God in the face of his enemies.

Only those loyal to Christ, the King of Israel, are legal Israelites. The nation currently calling itself "Israel" is a faction of usurpers attempting to take the kingdom by force and deception. Jesus says we'll know them by their fruit, so we might want to assess whether we've seen this faux-Israel even attempt to meet the directives given them in the Sermon on the Mount. 64 years is a pretty long window.
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You have it wrong mate, the bible is clear that Israel will become a nation again, And will also become a stumbling block for the nations(will be a major problem) They will have no King and no sacrifice. Do you not have any access to the news of what is going on in the world? 2 thirds of them(modern day Israel) will die the rest will see Jesus coming in the clouds and will mourn for him whom they have pierced. As for the current Israeli government? they will go the same way as all earthly man ruled governments.
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12/10/2012 06:07 PM
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
You can never destroy the idea.
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12/10/2012 06:09 PM
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
It also says that the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD is composed of BOTH Jews and Gentiles, and is NOT a people-group on Earth, but a SPIRITUAL group of people. The nation of Israel is NOT the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD!
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Where does it say that? Quote please.
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
The real key is to scripturally determine who/what is actually Israel. Originally, Jacob wrestled with God and received the name of "Israel", along with a limp and a new perspective, through which he was able to see God in the face of his enemies.

Only those loyal to Christ, the King of Israel, are legal Israelites. The nation currently calling itself "Israel" is a faction of usurpers attempting to take the kingdom by force and deception. Jesus says we'll know them by their fruit, so we might want to assess whether we've seen this faux-Israel even attempt to meet the directives given them in the Sermon on the Mount. 64 years is a pretty long window.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


You have it wrong mate, the bible is clear that Israel will become a nation again, And will also become a stumbling block for the nations(will be a major problem) They will have no King and no sacrifice. Do you not have any access to the news of what is going on in the world? 2 thirds of them(modern day Israel) will die the rest will see Jesus coming in the clouds and will mourn for him whom they have pierced. As for the current Israeli government? they will go the same way as all earthly man ruled governments.
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Do you have any notion of how easy it is for Israelites to lose their status?

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Any of them not meeting the demands of the Law are imposters merely playing dress-up - unless they rely on an Advocate who has legally met those conditions on their behalf.
Wake us when Israel recognizes their rightful Messiah Yeshua and begins to exhibit any intent to obeying Him.
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
It also says that the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD is composed of BOTH Jews and Gentiles, and is NOT a people-group on Earth, but a SPIRITUAL group of people. The nation of Israel is NOT the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD!
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Where does it say that? Quote please.
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My Father, whom you (Jews) claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. John 8:55

John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
It also says that the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD is composed of BOTH Jews and Gentiles, and is NOT a people-group on Earth, but a SPIRITUAL group of people. The nation of Israel is NOT the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29568937


Where does it say that? Quote please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29510334


My Father, whom you (Jews) claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. John 8:55

John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50
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So it doesn't actually say "the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD is composed of BOTH Jews and Gentiles"?
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
Can someone break it down a little bit?
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kitty Do your own research you lazy arsehole.
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
It also says that the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD is composed of BOTH Jews and Gentiles, and is NOT a people-group on Earth, but a SPIRITUAL group of people. The nation of Israel is NOT the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29568937


Where does it say that? Quote please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29510334


My Father, whom you (Jews) claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. John 8:55

John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50
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So it doesn't actually say "the TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD is composed of BOTH Jews and Gentiles"?
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Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
Lol, gentile thread. A lot of you are going to be VERY disappointed when you come to realize the Israel spoken of in the bible is not the group of people claiming that Royal identity today.
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
Can someone break it down a little bit?
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All ready happened, the israel you see today is not the same israel, but created by man, being a man made state created by the U.N.

You could almost call it an Abomination.
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
Lol, gentile thread. A lot of you are going to be VERY disappointed when you come to realize the Israel spoken of in the bible is not the group of people claiming that Royal identity today.
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tru dat :)
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Re: Where does it say in the bible Israel will never be destroyed?
Can someone break it down a little bit?
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kitty Do your own research you lazy arsehole.
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What a blessing!

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