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True Atheism is impossible.

 
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Atheists are pan-pagans (not pantheists), they have detached themselves from any reproach so much as blaspheme and deny even Satan and his demons and the fallen angels. He Hates them the most, while God still continues to love them, which is fully evident by their proliferation...
They are nothing, a fluke, just like their universe that came out off nothing. Yet, so far God restrains the hand of the Accuser... for how long.
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What a blessing!

=D
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World War Three is to be fomented by using the differences the agentur of the Illuminati stir up between Political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The war is to be directed in such a manner that Islam (the Arab World including Mohammedanism) and Political Zionism (including the State of Israel) will destroy themselves
.................
We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but with out knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time" (William Guy Carr, Pawns in the Game, p. xv-xvi).
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Assumptions are what makes humans look silly and childish.

Drowning and receiving the miracle of returning to my body to live this wonderful life is what created my beliefs.

If that had not happened to me, I might be as stagnant and closed up as so many others.
 Quoting: Merci


Wait - so your conversion didn't occur by zealots badgering you? Do the math.
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I am not converted to anything. I am not religious.

Religions are man made.

I am spiritual, I do know a creating force exists. I do know a Christ consciousness, so to speak exists.

If you want to give it a name, that is up to you, as man has named every deity in existence.

All I know is when I could not get above the water and could not hold my breath anymore, and the pain in my chest was unbearable, everything went black and the pain was gone.

I could hear, I was aware. When I could see again I saw the most beautiful light coming towards me, or I was going towards it, not sure. Coming out of the light towards me, I was met by a figure of light. I call the Christ consciousness. And was told telepathically, that it was not my time to meet the creator an I had to go back to learn and teach, because that is the reason for life. I had more they wanted me to do and it was an accident that I had drowned. It was not suppose to happen.

I did not want to come back. The love that I felt permeating out of that light was so embracing and unconditional. I have yet to feel its equal.

I was guided to a place, seemed like underground, murky red, muddy looking and what I saw, oh dear, I don't like to talk about that much an am glad I was not forced to enter, only peer in. I was told that this is the place some in my life's path will be going while others will choose to go into the light. Both places do exist, for I have seen them both.

Just hope your name is written in the Akashic records/ book of life before the world began, so you wont have to worry about where your consciousness resides for all eternity once your body dies.

We are not our bodies, our bodies are our classroom, life creates the lessons and our reactions to those lessons is our teacher if we choose to be taught.

Freewill is the curse that separates us from our creator.
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

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No, atheists.
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Ah. If they're angry and bitter, maybe we should just be cool and let them be, instead of climbing on their faces with our idols? Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


we're not angry. we're just bound and determined to
eradicate "God" from the face of the planet.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein



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yes, all Communists are strongly encouraged to be Atheist.

BUT, all Atheists are not Communist.
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Atheists are pan-pagans (not pantheists), they have detached themselves from any reproach so much as blaspheme and deny even Satan and his demons and the fallen angels. He Hates them the most, while God still continues to love them, which is fully evident by their proliferation...
They are nothing, a fluke, just like their universe that came out off nothing. Yet, so far God restrains the hand of the Accuser... for how long.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29018328


What a blessing!

=D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


World War Three is to be fomented by using the differences the agentur of the Illuminati stir up between Political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The war is to be directed in such a manner that Islam (the Arab World including Mohammedanism) and Political Zionism (including the State of Israel) will destroy themselves
.................
We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but with out knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time" (William Guy Carr, Pawns in the Game, p. xv-xvi).
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Always with the sweet talk eyebat

You suppose Pike and those guys are really in charge?
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When I encounter someone who claims they are Atheist, it makes me wonder about what Atheism truly is.

The central thesis proposed by Atheism is that god does not exist, however, what most people don't realize is that "GOD" is central and key to the belief. God is the ground upon which Atheism is built on, however, the only catch is, that Atheists denounce god... but how can they truly be Atheist if god is central to their thesis? Meaning.. if there was no god, then Atheism would not be possible as a concept.

You cannot use something you do not believe in as a central point in your thesis, correct? Atheism seems like a joke that is being played on the ignorant. A true atheist would never call themselves an Atheist, because Atheism immediately locks you in to "god" or the lack of "god".. but God is still very much part of the belief structure.

Make sense?
 Quoting: PigsInSpace


no.
utter nonsense.

Replace the word god with pink unicorns and apply it to yourself.

By your shitty logic nobody can claim they don't believe in pink unicorns.

Very poor work, you embarrass yourself and give all of us fair warning to ignore anything you have to say in the future.
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Yep. They don't believe in Santa and I do. Since Santa is the core belief, and they say they don't believe, they are saying they don't believe in what they do believe in. See? That's Irish logic for you.

They are incapable of logical thinking or they would not have blind faith. That is why it is called blind faith.

They resent the fact that some people use reason when they were not born with that ability.
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I don't believe in unicorns. Does that mean they exist?
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According to OP, yes.
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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I don't believe in unicorns. Does that mean they exist?
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According to OP, yes.
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Someone, somewhere discovered their bones in the last week or two. It made headlines here for a few days. Bosnia or somewhere.
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Assumptions are what makes humans look silly and childish.

Drowning and receiving the miracle of returning to my body to live this wonderful life is what created my beliefs.

If that had not happened to me, I might be as stagnant and closed up as so many others.
 Quoting: Merci


Wait - so your conversion didn't occur by zealots badgering you? Do the math.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


I am not converted to anything. I am not religious.

Religions are man made.

I am spiritual, I do know a creating force exists. I do know a Christ consciousness, so to speak exists.

If you want to give it a name, that is up to you, as man has named every deity in existence.

All I know is when I could not get above the water and could not hold my breath anymore, and the pain in my chest was unbearable, everything went black and the pain was gone.

I could hear, I was aware. When I could see again I saw the most beautiful light coming towards me, or I was going towards it, not sure. Coming out of the light towards me, I was met by a figure of light. I call the Christ consciousness. And was told telepathically, that it was not my time to meet the creator an I had to go back to learn and teach, because that is the reason for life. I had more they wanted me to do and it was an accident that I had drowned. It was not suppose to happen.

I did not want to come back. The love that I felt permeating out of that light was so embracing and unconditional. I have yet to feel its equal.

I was guided to a place, seemed like underground, murky red, muddy looking and what I saw, oh dear, I don't like to talk about that much an am glad I was not forced to enter, only peer in. I was told that this is the place some in my life's path will be going while others will choose to go into the light. Both places do exist, for I have seen them both.

Just hope your name is written in the Akashic records/ book of life before the world began, so you wont have to worry about where your consciousness resides for all eternity once your body dies.

We are not our bodies, our bodies are our classroom, life creates the lessons and our reactions to those lessons is our teacher if we choose to be taught.

 Quoting: Merci


So, it took an NDE for you to see the light (literally), but you expect skeptics here to simply roll over at arguments made of words posted on a forum? You don't suppose it might require the same type of death scenario to get through to others, as well?

Have you ever had people try and "evangelize" you? If so, how effective was it?

You seem hardcore enough that you'd actually make an awesome christian.



separates us from our creator.
 Quoting: Merci


No such separation exists
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I don't believe in unicorns. Does that mean they exist?
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According to OP, yes.
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Someone, somewhere discovered their bones in the last week or two. It made headlines here for a few days. Bosnia or somewhere.
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I see. How about giant pymgy cowgirls? Can we make them exist too, by simple disbelief?
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Atheists are pan-pagans (not pantheists), they have detached themselves from any reproach so much as blaspheme and deny even Satan and his demons and the fallen angels. He Hates them the most, while God still continues to love them, which is fully evident by their proliferation...
They are nothing, a fluke, just like their universe that came out off nothing. Yet, so far God restrains the hand of the Accuser... for how long.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29018328


What a blessing!

=D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


World War Three is to be fomented by using the differences the agentur of the Illuminati stir up between Political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The war is to be directed in such a manner that Islam (the Arab World including Mohammedanism) and Political Zionism (including the State of Israel) will destroy themselves
.................
We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but with out knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time" (William Guy Carr, Pawns in the Game, p. xv-xvi).
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Always with the sweet talk eyebat

You suppose Pike and those guys are really in charge?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578

No, they are not.
so, is it you who is in charge then?..
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Oh, as for your sillines issue, scripture tells us the natural man will see these things as follie (1 Cor 2:14), only those who have filled their hearts with God can know the truth.
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Why then do you guys repeatedly keep thumping your book at such people, if scripture plainly says they won't get it?!

Logic would suggest that if people are not going to buy your doctrine or whatever because their hearts are supposedly unreceptive to it, we'd be better off emitting things they can receive - kindness, respect, etc. - instead of beating the dead horse trying to force a square peg up their hole.

It's a matter of flesh vs. spirit. Fleshly, carnal evangelization will always fall short. Usually this comes from "believers" who really don't trust God to do His thing, so they take it upon themselves to try and convert the wicked heathen evil-doers with a lot of arm-twisting.
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Well, aren't we called by Christ to spread the Gospel (Mark 16:15)? We all deserve death, but God in all his mercy and grace has offered us away out.
God is not willing that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9).
We don't (or shouldn't) twist arms, as everyone has a choice not receive the truth of the Gospel.
However, I'd be careless if I allowed my brother to stumble into hell without warning him.
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so, is it you who is in charge then?..
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hell no
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I don't believe in unicorns. Does that mean they exist?
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According to OP, yes.
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Someone, somewhere discovered their bones in the last week or two. It made headlines here for a few days. Bosnia or somewhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408355


I see. How about giant pymgy cowgirls? Can we make them exist too, by simple disbelief?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


hahahah! I didn't find the bones LOL! It was north Korea. I will post the link to the first article I found on the net.

I don't know about the pymgy, maybe - if north korea goes searching. 1rof1




[link to news.softpedia.com]

Sorry don't know how to embed link.
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According to OP, yes.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Someone, somewhere discovered their bones in the last week or two. It made headlines here for a few days. Bosnia or somewhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408355


I see. How about giant pymgy cowgirls? Can we make them exist too, by simple disbelief?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


hahahah! I didn't find the bones LOL! It was north Korea. I will post the link to the first article I found on the net.

I don't know about the pymgy, maybe - if north korea goes searching. 1rof1




[link to news.softpedia.com]

Sorry don't know how to embed link.
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WOW! The link embeded - first time ever for me. What do you know, A miracle!!!!
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Oh, as for your sillines issue, scripture tells us the natural man will see these things as follie (1 Cor 2:14), only those who have filled their hearts with God can know the truth.
 Quoting: Nobody... 967366


Why then do you guys repeatedly keep thumping your book at such people, if scripture plainly says they won't get it?!

Logic would suggest that if people are not going to buy your doctrine or whatever because their hearts are supposedly unreceptive to it, we'd be better off emitting things they can receive - kindness, respect, etc. - instead of beating the dead horse trying to force a square peg up their hole.

It's a matter of flesh vs. spirit. Fleshly, carnal evangelization will always fall short. Usually this comes from "believers" who really don't trust God to do His thing, so they take it upon themselves to try and convert the wicked heathen evil-doers with a lot of arm-twisting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Well, aren't we called by Christ to spread the Gospel (Mark 16:15)? We all deserve death, but God in all his mercy and grace has offered us away out.
God is not willing that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9).
We don't (or shouldn't) twist arms, as everyone has a choice not receive the truth of the Gospel.
However, I'd be careless if I allowed my brother to stumble into hell without warning him.
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Well, Arm-twisting is all any of this is.

Let's take a poll as to how many GLPers have *not* heard that Jesus died for them. You guys act like you're bringing the light to darkest remotest islands, but all you're doing is rubbing people raw with your pious abrasion.

Jesus dined with sinners, and it was scandalous to the religionists. How do you suppose He treated them that they dinnit kick His ass out of their neighborhood? I'm totally sure He was all like "I exist, and you'd better receive Me into your heart before it's too late!", etc., right? He was probably like "You're angry and bitter, aren't you? Well, that's your own fault because you aren't spiritual like I am."

You zealots have missed the whole point.
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You zealots have missed the whole point.
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there is no point. the entire Universe is totally meaningless.
Life is what you make it.
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Assumptions are what makes humans look silly and childish.

Drowning and receiving the miracle of returning to my body to live this wonderful life is what created my beliefs.

If that had not happened to me, I might be as stagnant and closed up as so many others.
 Quoting: Merci


Wait - so your conversion didn't occur by zealots badgering you? Do the math.
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I am not converted to anything. I am not religious.

Religions are man made.

I am spiritual, I do know a creating force exists. I do know a Christ consciousness, so to speak exists.

If you want to give it a name, that is up to you, as man has named every deity in existence.

All I know is when I could not get above the water and could not hold my breath anymore, and the pain in my chest was unbearable, everything went black and the pain was gone.

I could hear, I was aware. When I could see again I saw the most beautiful light coming towards me, or I was going towards it, not sure. Coming out of the light towards me, I was met by a figure of light. I call the Christ consciousness. And was told telepathically, that it was not my time to meet the creator an I had to go back to learn and teach, because that is the reason for life. I had more they wanted me to do and it was an accident that I had drowned. It was not suppose to happen.

I did not want to come back. The love that I felt permeating out of that light was so embracing and unconditional. I have yet to feel its equal.

I was guided to a place, seemed like underground, murky red, muddy looking and what I saw, oh dear, I don't like to talk about that much an am glad I was not forced to enter, only peer in. I was told that this is the place some in my life's path will be going while others will choose to go into the light. Both places do exist, for I have seen them both.

Just hope your name is written in the Akashic records/ book of life before the world began, so you wont have to worry about where your consciousness resides for all eternity once your body dies.

We are not our bodies, our bodies are our classroom, life creates the lessons and our reactions to those lessons is our teacher if we choose to be taught.

 Quoting: Merci


So, it took an NDE for you to see the light (literally), but you expect skeptics here to simply roll over at arguments made of words posted on a forum? You don't suppose it might require the same type of death scenario to get through to others, as well?

Have you ever had people try and "evangelize" you? If so, how effective was it?

You seem hardcore enough that you'd actually make an awesome christian.



separates us from our creator.
 Quoting: Merci


No such separation exists
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578



I was a 13 year old child at the time of my NDE.
I do believe in a Christ consciousness because I saw it/him and it/him spoke to me and showed me many mysteries before returning.

If there is a religion, that is close at all, to what I experienced. It would be the Christian religion. Because of the creating source and the Christ consciousness that brings you into the glory of that realm. Love is the predominate force of that realm, and if love does not exist in your soul, you cannot enter into that realm.

Yes, a separation from god does exist and must exist while we are embodied. Or everyone would probably kill themselves to get back what they remembered their existence was like before incarnation.
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

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Love is the predominate force of that realm
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Agreed, 100%
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When I encounter someone who claims they are Atheist, it makes me wonder about what Atheism truly is.

The central thesis proposed by Atheism is that god does not exist, however, what most people don't realize is that "GOD" is central and key to the belief. God is the ground upon which Atheism is built on, however, the only catch is, that Atheists denounce god... but how can they truly be Atheist if god is central to their thesis? Meaning.. if there was no god, then Atheism would not be possible as a concept.

You cannot use something you do not believe in as a central point in your thesis, correct? Atheism seems like a joke that is being played on the ignorant. A true atheist would never call themselves an Atheist, because Atheism immediately locks you in to "god" or the lack of "god".. but God is still very much part of the belief structure.

Make sense?
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putin
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You zealots have missed the whole point.
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there is no point. the entire Universe is totally meaningless.
Life is what you make it.
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Even if so, they've missed the entire point of their base premise. Even if the bible is taken as complete bullshit fiction, we can still reach conclusions on its "main character" and His traits and tendencies, just like in any other literature.
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Only to those with closed minds which have never seen the light nor ever will.
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i got news for you. most of us werent born non-believers. i come from a religious family, very active in church, earned a god and country badge in boy scouts, youth group leader...etc.

once that "light" shining in your face is turned off you can see the puppet-masters behind it.
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I'm pretty sure there is nothing that I could ever learn from you, but I do have an open mind, miracles do happen.
 Quoting: Merci


you are really good a skirting around the topic when you respond to someone's post. this tactic is often used when someone cant refute anothers claims yet doesnt want to admit defeat.

you've "known" me for the better part of an afternoon yet you are pretty sure that you could never learn anything from me.....you are more closed minded then you would like to admit.
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I have seen what you post and your comments since last summer.

And the reason I said "pretty sure", is I left room for miracles because I do have a very opened mind.

Your response lacking comprehension of the fact, that I left you some wiggle room that you could actually teach me something, only strengthens my original opinion.

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Assumptions are what makes humans look silly and childish.

Drowning and receiving the miracle of returning to my body to live this wonderful life is what created my beliefs.

If that had not happened to me, I might be as stagnant and closed up as so many others.
 Quoting: Merci


Wait - so your conversion didn't occur by zealots badgering you? Do the math.
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I am not converted to anything. I am not religious.

Religions are man made.

I am spiritual, I do know a creating force exists. I do know a Christ consciousness, so to speak exists.

If you want to give it a name, that is up to you, as man has named every deity in existence.

All I know is when I could not get above the water and could not hold my breath anymore, and the pain in my chest was unbearable, everything went black and the pain was gone.

I could hear, I was aware. When I could see again I saw the most beautiful light coming towards me, or I was going towards it, not sure. Coming out of the light towards me, I was met by a figure of light. I call the Christ consciousness. And was told telepathically, that it was not my time to meet the creator an I had to go back to learn and teach, because that is the reason for life. I had more they wanted me to do and it was an accident that I had drowned. It was not suppose to happen.

I did not want to come back. The love that I felt permeating out of that light was so embracing and unconditional. I have yet to feel its equal.

I was guided to a place, seemed like underground, murky red, muddy looking and what I saw, oh dear, I don't like to talk about that much an am glad I was not forced to enter, only peer in. I was told that this is the place some in my life's path will be going while others will choose to go into the light. Both places do exist, for I have seen them both.

Just hope your name is written in the Akashic records/ book of life before the world began, so you wont have to worry about where your consciousness resides for all eternity once your body dies.

We are not our bodies, our bodies are our classroom, life creates the lessons and our reactions to those lessons is our teacher if we choose to be taught.

Freewill is the curse that separates us from our creator.
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Assumptions are what makes humans look silly and childish.

Drowning and receiving the miracle of returning to my body to live this wonderful life is what created my beliefs.

If that had not happened to me, I might be as stagnant and closed up as so many others.
 Quoting: Merci


Wait - so your conversion didn't occur by zealots badgering you? Do the math.
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I am not converted to anything. I am not religious.

Religions are man made.

I am spiritual, I do know a creating force exists. I do know a Christ consciousness, so to speak exists.

If you want to give it a name, that is up to you, as man has named every deity in existence.

All I know is when I could not get above the water and could not hold my breath anymore, and the pain in my chest was unbearable, everything went black and the pain was gone.

I could hear, I was aware. When I could see again I saw the most beautiful light coming towards me, or I was going towards it, not sure. Coming out of the light towards me, I was met by a figure of light. I call the Christ consciousness. And was told telepathically, that it was not my time to meet the creator an I had to go back to learn and teach, because that is the reason for life. I had more they wanted me to do and it was an accident that I had drowned. It was not suppose to happen.

I did not want to come back. The love that I felt permeating out of that light was so embracing and unconditional. I have yet to feel its equal.

I was guided to a place, seemed like underground, murky red, muddy looking and what I saw, oh dear, I don't like to talk about that much an am glad I was not forced to enter, only peer in. I was told that this is the place some in my life's path will be going while others will choose to go into the light. Both places do exist, for I have seen them both.

Just hope your name is written in the Akashic records/ book of life before the world began, so you wont have to worry about where your consciousness resides for all eternity once your body dies.

We are not our bodies, our bodies are our classroom, life creates the lessons and our reactions to those lessons is our teacher if we choose to be taught.

Freewill is the curse that separates us from our creator.
 Quoting: Merci


wrong.

choice(freewill) is what *connects* us to God.
by our choices does God decide: its a hundreth monkey thing.


in the end.

you will have to choose. this is what we do.


the rest is up to God.
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You zealots have missed the whole point.
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there is no point. the entire Universe is totally meaningless.
Life is what you make it.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


Even if so, they've missed the entire point of their base premise. Even if the bible is taken as complete bullshit fiction, we can still reach conclusions on its "main character" and His traits and tendencies, just like in any other literature.
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well, from an academic point of view you're right.
but, it's best not to give them credit for anything :)
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the only problem with you all god sucker ...


its you never stop to try convincting people for this god ...


stop we dont careeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee​eeeeeeeeeeeee
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Cool. I don't take the Bible as literal truth either, but I do believe in god. my belief is founded on research, and earnestly looking at everything and considering the constituents of all things. I see intelligence in everything. Not only do I see intelligence, I see a structure.
 Quoting: PigsInSpace


then you should show your findings instead of just trying to discredit your opposition.

if you honestly thought you found the truth then you would have done this........
 Quoting: Oyster


I am not trying to discredit anyone. I just thought it is ironic how god is essential to Atheism, that's all. I will make a post about my findings, thank you for participating and making a good suggestion.
 Quoting: PigsInSpace


by your logic, you believe in all gods of all religions....correct?
 Quoting: Oyster


No. I believe in the one true god/creator. I am not a Christian either.
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I don't believe in unicorns. Does that mean they exist?
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According to OP, yes.
 Quoting: Sneetch


I simply acknowledge that other people believe in them. That is enough for them to exist in a quantum reality/hyper reality.
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Assumptions are what makes humans look silly and childish.

Drowning and receiving the miracle of returning to my body to live this wonderful life is what created my beliefs.

If that had not happened to me, I might be as stagnant and closed up as so many others.
 Quoting: Merci


Wait - so your conversion didn't occur by zealots badgering you? Do the math.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


I am not converted to anything. I am not religious.

Religions are man made.

I am spiritual, I do know a creating force exists. I do know a Christ consciousness, so to speak exists.

If you want to give it a name, that is up to you, as man has named every deity in existence.

All I know is when I could not get above the water and could not hold my breath anymore, and the pain in my chest was unbearable, everything went black and the pain was gone.

I could hear, I was aware. When I could see again I saw the most beautiful light coming towards me, or I was going towards it, not sure. Coming out of the light towards me, I was met by a figure of light. I call the Christ consciousness. And was told telepathically, that it was not my time to meet the creator an I had to go back to learn and teach, because that is the reason for life. I had more they wanted me to do and it was an accident that I had drowned. It was not suppose to happen.

I did not want to come back. The love that I felt permeating out of that light was so embracing and unconditional. I have yet to feel its equal.

I was guided to a place, seemed like underground, murky red, muddy looking and what I saw, oh dear, I don't like to talk about that much an am glad I was not forced to enter, only peer in. I was told that this is the place some in my life's path will be going while others will choose to go into the light. Both places do exist, for I have seen them both.

Just hope your name is written in the Akashic records/ book of life before the world began, so you wont have to worry about where your consciousness resides for all eternity once your body dies.

We are not our bodies, our bodies are our classroom, life creates the lessons and our reactions to those lessons is our teacher if we choose to be taught.

Freewill is the curse that separates us from our creator.
 Quoting: Merci


You could not be more mistaken. Free Will is the only thing binding us to the creator in a true/loving way. If we had no free will, god would not be omnipotent, but a tyrant. The fact that you have the freedom to denounce god is proof of gods omnipotence. I am not a Christian.
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Re: True Atheism is impossible.
Atheists are a funny bunch.

They think they are neutral in this spiritual war. In fact the atheists are easy prey.
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Re: True Atheism is impossible.
only very stupid people and children believe in God now.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


Name calling does not negate the existence of God, neither does you unbelief.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29636139

Dr Einstein's statement my be a little abrupt in it's delivery - but nevertheless, there IS a correlation between low intelligence, and religious belief.
And conversely, between higher intelligence, and lack of religious belief.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Karlos


You are mistaken. You have not studied enough. Have you ever looked at the origins of religion, or studied esoteric religion? The religion we have today are forgeries, dismal, and pathetic copies of something much more powerful and beautiful. Do not let the ruling class dictate what religion is to you. Religion was born of very high intelligence, and high intelligence was used to forge it and enslave mankind.

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