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The Moon Through My Telescope

 
#Geomagnetic_Storm# (OP)
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12/11/2012 04:03 AM

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Shot a while ago using a 10" Orion XT10g with a cheap Orion Webcam.



 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Thanks Geo!
 Quoting: Elemental


No probs :)
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12/11/2012 04:05 AM
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Nice, I've bought a new mount 2 weeks ago, but there wasn't a single night without cloud since :-(
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Nice, I've bought a new mount 2 weeks ago, but there wasn't a single night without cloud since :-(
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12/11/2012 04:12 AM

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Awesome!

I captured the moon a bit and even the moons of Jupiter, see in HD here [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] but this was with a Nikon D7000 with a mere 50/500 lens. Nothing like your telescope.

Can you try to get some images of Jupiter and it's moons with your set-up? Bet you it will be awesome!

Cheers OP.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Pretty cool video. But my webcam doesn't want to pick up the moons :(


 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Wow, neat colors though.

I wonder - if you zoomed out a bit and focus on a broader area, if then maybe you pick up the moons?
In any event, thanks again, nice!
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Hi 2012Portal

it's not a matter of zoom, it's a matter of exposure time.

Jupiter is much more brighter than the moons.
If you set the exposure to Jupiter, the camera can't catch enough light to see the moons.
If you set the exposure to the moons, Jupiter is overexposed and just a big bright dot with no details.

You can try to stack both kinds of photos, but the result isn't optimal.
To show the Jupiter system, most photographers just photoshop a good Jupiter image into the moon image.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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12/11/2012 04:19 AM

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OP, can you do another one of those vids but next time stay longer or go slower over each area. We might see something moving there!
 Quoting: Lilbabez33


Yeah I can try when the weather cooperates a bit
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Might be a stupid question but taking into consideration the possibility of never being on the moon. Has anyone ever seen the Flag thru a telescope?
 Quoting: Dapurps


not possible now! but with the next generation of telescopes it might get possible.

at the time the only telescope that could at the moment is this one

[link to www.eso.org]

ask them why they dont do it...
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12/11/2012 04:27 AM

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Moon through an AT6RC and a canon 450d camera


IMAGE ( [link to i226.photobucket.com] )

 Quoting: MaryAlananB


Nice. I have yet to take a moon picture with my DSLR camera. I need a lens that zooms in more. I have a 200mm. I'm gonna need a bigger one.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#

Hi Geo

if the Focal length is less then 2500mm (my SC has 2500) the Moon should fit the camera chip quite well in direct focus.
If it's to small: good 2x/3x barlow - also in direct focus.

If the Moon is to big for the camera chip, make a mosaic. (I hate to say it) but a good program to make a mosaic is Microsofts Image Composite Editor (free).


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
-Vod-

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12/11/2012 04:29 AM
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Awesome!

I captured the moon a bit and even the moons of Jupiter, see in HD here [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] but this was with a Nikon D7000 with a mere 50/500 lens. Nothing like your telescope.

Can you try to get some images of Jupiter and it's moons with your set-up? Bet you it will be awesome!

Cheers OP.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Pretty cool video. But my webcam doesn't want to pick up the moons :(


 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Wow, neat colors though.

I wonder - if you zoomed out a bit and focus on a broader area, if then maybe you pick up the moons?
In any event, thanks again, nice!
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Hi 2012Portal

it's not a matter of zoom, it's a matter of exposure time.

Jupiter is much more brighter than the moons.
If you set the exposure to Jupiter, the camera can't catch enough light to see the moons.
If you set the exposure to the moons, Jupiter is overexposed and just a big bright dot with no details.

You can try to stack both kinds of photos, but the result isn't optimal.
To show the Jupiter system, most photographers just photoshop a good Jupiter image into the moon image.


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 Quoting: Hydra


It's still possible. It's not a wonderful picture but we can see some moon. I don't have access to other pictures here, it was my very first Jupiter picture (with newton 200/1200, webcam toucam pro2)

[link to img833.imageshack.us]
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12/11/2012 04:31 AM

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GS, I have a Meade with an MA9mm and an MA25mm lens and I feel like I can't see sh_t. I know nothing about them, do I need to order a stronger lens? The telescope is 6 inches in diameter and 16 inches long.
 Quoting: Isis One

Do you know the model number / name?
Lense or mirror?


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 Quoting: Hydra


Hi Hydra, I found the disc that came with it (haven't found written instructions so far), says, Meade DS2000 Series. I'm going to watch the video now.
 Quoting: Isis One

Hi Isis One

I know the DS2000 series - I just now have one at my home for collimation.

I'm quite busy at the moment, but will come back in some hours to give you some hints regarding the issue.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
2012Portal
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12/11/2012 04:32 AM

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Awesome!

I captured the moon a bit and even the moons of Jupiter, see in HD here [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] but this was with a Nikon D7000 with a mere 50/500 lens. Nothing like your telescope.

Can you try to get some images of Jupiter and it's moons with your set-up? Bet you it will be awesome!

Cheers OP.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Pretty cool video. But my webcam doesn't want to pick up the moons :(


 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Wow, neat colors though.

I wonder - if you zoomed out a bit and focus on a broader area, if then maybe you pick up the moons?
In any event, thanks again, nice!
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Hi 2012Portal

it's not a matter of zoom, it's a matter of exposure time.

Jupiter is much more brighter than the moons.
If you set the exposure to Jupiter, the camera can't catch enough light to see the moons.
If you set the exposure to the moons, Jupiter is overexposed and just a big bright dot with no details.

You can try to stack both kinds of photos, but the result isn't optimal.
To show the Jupiter system, most photographers just photoshop a good Jupiter image into the moon image.


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 Quoting: Hydra



Right, gotcha, thanks. I was catching ambient light from our moon, which may have effected matters. Yet still, how can I magnify my lens to crop in closer, without software? (How can I hack it!)
Mayan Calendar and 2012-
From the love of power to the power of Love -
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12/11/2012 04:34 AM

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Pretty cool video. But my webcam doesn't want to pick up the moons :(


 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Wow, neat colors though.

I wonder - if you zoomed out a bit and focus on a broader area, if then maybe you pick up the moons?
In any event, thanks again, nice!
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Hi 2012Portal

it's not a matter of zoom, it's a matter of exposure time.

Jupiter is much more brighter than the moons.
If you set the exposure to Jupiter, the camera can't catch enough light to see the moons.
If you set the exposure to the moons, Jupiter is overexposed and just a big bright dot with no details.

You can try to stack both kinds of photos, but the result isn't optimal.
To show the Jupiter system, most photographers just photoshop a good Jupiter image into the moon image.


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 Quoting: Hydra


It's still possible. It's not a wonderful picture but we can see some moon. I don't have access to other pictures here, it was my very first Jupiter picture (with newton 200/1200, webcam toucam pro2)

[link to img833.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: -Vod-


-VOD- that is great! Pretty cool.
Mayan Calendar and 2012-
From the love of power to the power of Love -
[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]
Hydra

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Good Morning Hydra!
 Quoting: Elemental


hf hf hf

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
Hydra

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Re: The Moon Through My Telescope
Awesome!

I captured the moon a bit and even the moons of Jupiter, see in HD here [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] but this was with a Nikon D7000 with a mere 50/500 lens. Nothing like your telescope.
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Hi 2012Portal

there is only few you can do to get a bigger image.
You can put a 2x teleconverter between camera and objectiv (not the ones you screw to the front of the objectiv) - this would double the focal length and the object size.

If you want more, you need a tracking telescope.

You also can try to increase the quality of your images/videos:
Set the focus to manual - the autofocus dont work properly with small celestial bodies.
Play around with the exposure time (the ISO settings for videos) - should be possible to catch the bands of Jupiter.

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It's still possible. It's not a wonderful picture but we can see some moon. I don't have access to other pictures here, it was my very first Jupiter picture (with newton 200/1200, webcam toucam pro2)

[link to img833.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: -Vod-

Nice catch.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Hi Hydra, I found the disc that came with it (haven't found written instructions so far), says, Meade DS2000 Series. I'm going to watch the video now.
 Quoting: Isis One

Hi Isis One

if your scope is 16" you either own the DS-2114S or DS-2130S. It's a so called "Short Tube".
Mirror 114mm or 130mm, focal length 1000mm.

Actually the focal lenght of the mirror is about 500mm and is doubled by a barlow element in the focusser.
These kind of scopes have some flaws: Because of the barlow-lens some chromatic aberation (colored borders around bright objects) and (because of the spherical mirror they use) at the margins in the eyepiece image some spherical aberation (distorted stars). For the diameter/focal length ratio the manufacturer should use parabolic mirrors, but spherical mirrors are cheaper.

The two eyepieces (25mm and 9mm) give you a magnification of 40x and 111x. At least the 25mm should produce a quite good image. If not make this test:

Point the scope to a bright star, center it in the eyepiece and keep it centered.
De-focus until the now blurred star fills 1/3 of the eyepiece image.
Is the shadow of the secondary mirror (the black dot within the blurred star) exact in the middle of the blurred star?
If not, you have to collimate the mirrors of your scope. The instructions should be in the manual or the CD. If it isn't, PM me - I'll try to find the instructions for you.

I assume you also have the Autostar.
It works best, when you exact level the tripod (bubble level), level the tube and point it to north.
The better you do it, the better the Autostar works.
Use the "Two star alignment" with stars you know (If it gives you a star you don't know, you can skip it)

If you have more questions, please PM me ( won't derail the thread).


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India