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"You did not choose Me, but I chose you"

 
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"You did not choose Me, but I chose you"
John 15.

You proud churchbots who go around claiming that you *chose* God need to try and get a clue, because you've reduced salvation to a Pharisaical work of the flesh. Most of you actually think you've *done* something, and have missed the entire point.

Not only is Babylon falling - so is Laodicea.
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All bsflag

Nobody is choosing anybody.
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Nobody is choosing anybody.
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But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.

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Nobody is choosing anybody.
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But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.

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Many are called, chosen are a few.
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Nobody is choosing anybody.
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But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.

sigh
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Many are called, chosen are a few.
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N/A
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Re: "You did not choose Me, but I chose you"
NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture..

So if you are NOT DRAWN..what fault is that of yours?

Its up to GOD who is drawn.

Paul was on his way to go slaughter a few more christians. Serving Jesus was the LAST thing on his mind..HE DIDNT CHOOSE Jesus..Jesus KNOCKED him off his horse..BLINDED him..and CHOSE HIM....BY FORCE.

Where was the FREE WILL there?
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NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture..

So if you are NOT DRAWN..what fault is that of yours?

Its up to GOD who is drawn.

Paul was on his way to go slaughter a few more christians. Serving Jesus was the LAST thing on his mind..HE DIDNT CHOOSE Jesus..Jesus KNOCKED him off his horse..BLINDED him..and CHOSE HIM....BY FORCE.

Where was the FREE WILL there?
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Exactly.

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Not even money if i dont choose that way ?

Stupid ..
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Not even money if i dont choose that way ?

Stupid ..
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"My hovercraft is full of eels."
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Nobody is choosing anybody.
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But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.

sigh
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Many are called, chosen are a few.
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N/A
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You think so?

I interpret the call as people choosing to respond to a call, whereas chosen I interpret as being more than just the choice of a man to respond to a call.
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All bsflag

Nobody is choosing anybody.
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hahahahahahahha
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NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture..
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And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
(John 12:32)
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NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture..
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And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
(John 12:32)
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and some of these too

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But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.

sigh
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Many are called, chosen are a few.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


N/A
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You think so?

I interpret the call as people choosing to respond to a call, whereas chosen I interpret as being more than just the choice of a man to respond to a call.
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OK, that I pretty much agree with.
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NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture..
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And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
(John 12:32)
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Killer verse. The best part is that the Greek word for "draw" there literally means "to drag". Paul used it when speaking about being ragged into court. It's not optional.

cheers
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Re: "You did not choose Me, but I chose you"
John 15.

You proud churchbots who go around claiming that you *chose* God need to try and get a clue, because you've reduced salvation to a Pharisaical work of the flesh. Most of you actually think you've *done* something, and have missed the entire point.

Not only is Babylon falling - so is Laodicea.
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Paul is overrated. Try Jesus himself.
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could not agree more OP. hf
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Paul is overrated. Try Jesus himself.
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Jesus is kind of quoted in my subject line
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More <bumps> for the stone-hearted faithful
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Re: "You did not choose Me, but I chose you"
John 15.

You proud churchbots who go around claiming that you *chose* God need to try and get a clue, because you've reduced salvation to a Pharisaical work of the flesh. Most of you actually think you've *done* something, and have missed the entire point.

Not only is Babylon falling - so is Laodicea.
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Not only chosen for salvation...chosen for sanity. Daniel 5...who would choose to give up their sanity. Nebuchadnezzar sure didn't choose to give up his sanity...it was taken, by God, and given back to Nebuchadnezzar seven years later. To me that is a sign about who is in control
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No point in preaching that the churchbots have it wrong if its God who chooses anyway.
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No point in preaching that the churchbots have it wrong if its God who chooses anyway.
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How so? Accurate data should *always* be applied to the equation.
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"Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."
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Nobody is choosing anybody.
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But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.

sigh
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Many are called, chosen are a few.
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And Jesus concluded, "Many are invited, but few are chosen."
(Matthew 22:14)

meaning the following: from Clarke's Bible Commentary

Many are called by the preaching of the Gospel into the outward communion of the Church of Christ; but few, comparatively, are chosen to dwell with God in glory, because they do not come to the master of the feast for a marriage garment - for that holiness without which none can see the Lord. This is an allusion to the Roman custom of raising their militia; all were mustered, but only those were chosen to serve, who were found proper.

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John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

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Nobody is choosing anybody.
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But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.

sigh
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Then they aren't true Christians (so don't call them that).Lord willing, read my thread "My Testimony". Father called me, when I knew absolutely nothing about Him, nor gave Him any thought and I can't thank Him enough for it.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Re: "You did not choose Me, but I chose you"
John 15.

You proud churchbots who go around claiming that you *chose* God need to try and get a clue, because you've reduced salvation to a Pharisaical work of the flesh. Most of you actually think you've *done* something, and have missed the entire point.

Not only is Babylon falling - so is Laodicea.
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OP, is there a point to your post? Anything uplifting?

Are you even Christian?
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OP, is there a point to your post? Anything uplifting?
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Yes - the point is that stone-hearted mannequins need to abandon the grand posture of the Pharisee whose prayer was "Thank Thee, O Lord that I'm not like that horrid Publican over there."

Most religious people have turned redemption into a work of the flesh, and go around claiming to have chosen God, as if they're somehow the Author of their faith instead of He.


Are you even Christian?
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Wtf is the difference? I don't see where Jesus ever said "Be ye Christian".
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OP, is there a point to your post? Anything uplifting?
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Yes - the point is that stone-hearted mannequins need to abandon the grand posture of the Pharisee whose prayer was "Thank Thee, O Lord that I'm not like that horrid Publican over there."

Most religious people have turned redemption into a work of the flesh, and go around claiming to have chosen God, as if they're somehow the Author of their faith instead of He.


Are you even Christian?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Wtf is the difference? I don't see where Jesus ever said "Be ye Christian".
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I'll re-word that then. Are you a follower of Christ?
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