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"You did not choose Me, but I chose you" | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578  United States12/10/2012 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8788578 United States12/10/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15993935  Netherlands12/10/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight. Many are called, chosen are a few. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8788578 United States12/10/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight. Many are called, chosen are a few. N/A |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17288812  Australia12/10/2012 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if you are NOT DRAWN..what fault is that of yours? Its up to GOD who is drawn. Paul was on his way to go slaughter a few more christians. Serving Jesus was the LAST thing on his mind..HE DIDNT CHOOSE Jesus..Jesus KNOCKED him off his horse..BLINDED him..and CHOSE HIM....BY FORCE. Where was the FREE WILL there? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8788578 United States12/10/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17288812 So if you are NOT DRAWN..what fault is that of yours? Its up to GOD who is drawn. Paul was on his way to go slaughter a few more christians. Serving Jesus was the LAST thing on his mind..HE DIDNT CHOOSE Jesus..Jesus KNOCKED him off his horse..BLINDED him..and CHOSE HIM....BY FORCE. Where was the FREE WILL there? Exactly.  |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8788578 United States12/10/2012 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15993935 Netherlands12/11/2012 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight. Many are called, chosen are a few. N/A You think so? I interpret the call as people choosing to respond to a call, whereas chosen I interpret as being more than just the choice of a man to respond to a call. |
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Perseus7  User ID: 29317919 United States12/11/2012 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17288812 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. (John 12:32) and some of these too  1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 4s 3d 4p 5s 4d 5p 6s 4f 5d 6p 7s 5f 6d 7p |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8788578 United States12/11/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight. Many are called, chosen are a few. N/A You think so? I interpret the call as people choosing to respond to a call, whereas chosen I interpret as being more than just the choice of a man to respond to a call. OK, that I pretty much agree with. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8788578 United States12/11/2012 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO one comes unto Jesus UNLESS the father first DRAWS them according to scripture.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17288812 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. (John 12:32) Killer verse. The best part is that the Greek word for "draw" there literally means "to drag". Paul used it when speaking about being ragged into court. It's not optional. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18622835 United States12/11/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 15. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 You proud churchbots who go around claiming that you *chose* God need to try and get a clue, because you've reduced salvation to a Pharisaical work of the flesh. Most of you actually think you've *done* something, and have missed the entire point. Not only is Babylon falling - so is Laodicea. Paul is overrated. Try Jesus himself. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24011342 United States12/11/2012 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 15. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 You proud churchbots who go around claiming that you *chose* God need to try and get a clue, because you've reduced salvation to a Pharisaical work of the flesh. Most of you actually think you've *done* something, and have missed the entire point. Not only is Babylon falling - so is Laodicea. Not only chosen for salvation...chosen for sanity. Daniel 5...who would choose to give up their sanity. Nebuchadnezzar sure didn't choose to give up his sanity...it was taken, by God, and given back to Nebuchadnezzar seven years later. To me that is a sign about who is in control ;-) |
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| HOmeBOund User ID: 1371470 United States12/11/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight. Many are called, chosen are a few. And Jesus concluded, "Many are invited, but few are chosen." (Matthew 22:14) meaning the following: from Clarke's Bible Commentary Many are called by the preaching of the Gospel into the outward communion of the Church of Christ; but few, comparatively, are chosen to dwell with God in glory, because they do not come to the master of the feast for a marriage garment - for that holiness without which none can see the Lord. This is an allusion to the Roman custom of raising their militia; all were mustered, but only those were chosen to serve, who were found proper. It is up to you! [link to www.e-sword.net] |
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| cmoG530 User ID: 29659475 United States12/11/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But ask our True Christians around here, and they'll tell you - "I, for one, choose to believe in Jesus" or somesuch nonsense. This is why the "lost" are so very wicked, because those folks consciously reject that "choice" and therefore deserve endless agony. It's all airtight. Then they aren't true Christians (so don't call them that).Lord willing, read my thread "My Testimony". Father called me, when I knew absolutely nothing about Him, nor gave Him any thought and I can't thank Him enough for it. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Mark 16:16 KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Romans 8:6-9 KJV 6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Matthew 15:8-9 KJV 8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Acts 5:29 KJV Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. "The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous |
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| Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States12/23/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 15. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 You proud churchbots who go around claiming that you *chose* God need to try and get a clue, because you've reduced salvation to a Pharisaical work of the flesh. Most of you actually think you've *done* something, and have missed the entire point. Not only is Babylon falling - so is Laodicea. OP, is there a point to your post? Anything uplifting? Are you even Christian? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8788578 United States12/23/2012 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes - the point is that stone-hearted mannequins need to abandon the grand posture of the Pharisee whose prayer was "Thank Thee, O Lord that I'm not like that horrid Publican over there." Most religious people have turned redemption into a work of the flesh, and go around claiming to have chosen God, as if they're somehow the Author of their faith instead of He. Wtf is the difference? I don't see where Jesus ever said "Be ye Christian". |
| Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States12/24/2012 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes - the point is that stone-hearted mannequins need to abandon the grand posture of the Pharisee whose prayer was "Thank Thee, O Lord that I'm not like that horrid Publican over there." Most religious people have turned redemption into a work of the flesh, and go around claiming to have chosen God, as if they're somehow the Author of their faith instead of He. Wtf is the difference? I don't see where Jesus ever said "Be ye Christian". I'll re-word that then. Are you a follower of Christ? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
