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Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?

 
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Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
I have studied them, been one, and logically mulled through the tenants of Christianity for years and they make absolutely NO SENSE.

God punishes ALL humans based on the actions of the original pair? Would you condemn your grandkids and their granskids for the inequity of your children? Most parents would not.

God destroys the world in a flood to cleanse the Earth? Would you burn down your house to get rid of a roach problem? Probably not.

God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.

God sends his Son to die for humans, and resurrects him on the 3rd day. Does that not mean that the blood sacrifice (speaking of which why does "god" need a blood sacrifice?) of Jesus was null, if he was resurrected? Sort of like paying for something and then stealing your money back.

The entire Bible makes absolutely NO SENSE. Its a book from primative men, and creative writers, for one purpose of unifying an Empire and creating spiritual slaves to passify civilization...
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God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.
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Paul was no Messiah. Unlike Jesus who was teaching fulfillment of the Law.
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I have studied them, been one, and logically mulled through the tenants of Christianity for years and they make absolutely NO SENSE.

God punishes ALL humans based on the actions of the original pair? Would you condemn your grandkids and their granskids for the inequity of your children? Most parents would not.

God destroys the world in a flood to cleanse the Earth? Would you burn down your house to get rid of a roach problem? Probably not.

God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.

God sends his Son to die for humans, and resurrects him on the 3rd day. Does that not mean that the blood sacrifice (speaking of which why does "god" need a blood sacrifice?) of Jesus was null, if he was resurrected? Sort of like paying for something and then stealing your money back.

The entire Bible makes absolutely NO SENSE. Its a book from primative men, and creative writers, for one purpose of unifying an Empire and creating spiritual slaves to passify civilization...
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You have forgotten that the SOUL is never destroyed.
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.
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Paul was no Messiah. Unlike Jesus who was teaching fulfillment of the Law.
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No ONE could fulfill it according to the Bible. So why even send your Son to fulfull a law and then kill him? Really where is the blood sacrifice if he simply was resurrected? Not much there? Sort of like buying me a gift and then taking it back...
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
I have studied them, been one, and logically mulled through the tenants of Christianity for years and they make absolutely NO SENSE.

God punishes ALL humans based on the actions of the original pair? Would you condemn your grandkids and their granskids for the inequity of your children? Most parents would not.

God destroys the world in a flood to cleanse the Earth? Would you burn down your house to get rid of a roach problem? Probably not.

God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.

God sends his Son to die for humans, and resurrects him on the 3rd day. Does that not mean that the blood sacrifice (speaking of which why does "god" need a blood sacrifice?) of Jesus was null, if he was resurrected? Sort of like paying for something and then stealing your money back.

The entire Bible makes absolutely NO SENSE. Its a book from primative men, and creative writers, for one purpose of unifying an Empire and creating spiritual slaves to passify civilization...
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You have forgotten that the SOUL is never destroyed.
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Actually you answer my own question. If NOTHING is destroyed during the cruxifiction WHAT IN GODS NAME WAS THE PURPOSE????????????? NO LOGICAL SENSE HERE FOLKS... why even bother to have your son die if its all a moot point? I guess it really does not mean anything after all...
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.
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Paul was no Messiah. Unlike Jesus who was teaching fulfillment of the Law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


No ONE could fulfill it according to the Bible. So why even send your Son to fulfull a law and then kill him? Really where is the blood sacrifice if he simply was resurrected? Not much there? Sort of like buying me a gift and then taking it back...
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You confuse the man-made laws of Pharisees and Scribes and the Law of God.
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God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Paul was no Messiah. Unlike Jesus who was teaching fulfillment of the Law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


No ONE could fulfill it according to the Bible. So why even send your Son to fulfull a law and then kill him? Really where is the blood sacrifice if he simply was resurrected? Not much there? Sort of like buying me a gift and then taking it back...
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You confuse the man-made laws of Pharisees and Scribes and the Law of God.
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What?!?!?!?!? The LAW was written by god according to your own Bible as was sacrifice as was the purpose of the crucifiction. I love the thumpers they can't even answer their own questions....
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Paul was no Messiah. Unlike Jesus who was teaching fulfillment of the Law.
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No ONE could fulfill it according to the Bible. So why even send your Son to fulfull a law and then kill him? Really where is the blood sacrifice if he simply was resurrected? Not much there? Sort of like buying me a gift and then taking it back...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


You confuse the man-made laws of Pharisees and Scribes and the Law of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


What?!?!?!?!? The LAW was written by god according to your own Bible as was sacrifice as was the purpose of the crucifiction. I love the thumpers they can't even answer their own questions....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Only satanists sacrifice humans. Like the Levites did back then.
The humans sacrifices are prohibited in the Law of God yet.
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No ONE could fulfill it according to the Bible. So why even send your Son to fulfull a law and then kill him? Really where is the blood sacrifice if he simply was resurrected? Not much there? Sort of like buying me a gift and then taking it back...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


You confuse the man-made laws of Pharisees and Scribes and the Law of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


What?!?!?!?!? The LAW was written by god according to your own Bible as was sacrifice as was the purpose of the crucifiction. I love the thumpers they can't even answer their own questions....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Only satanists sacrifice humans. Like the Levites did back then.
The humans sacrifices are prohibited in the Law of God yet.
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Go back under your rock. You don't even know your own Bible, since it obvious you question the very tenants...
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You confuse the man-made laws of Pharisees and Scribes and the Law of God.
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What?!?!?!?!? The LAW was written by god according to your own Bible as was sacrifice as was the purpose of the crucifiction. I love the thumpers they can't even answer their own questions....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Only satanists sacrifice humans. Like the Levites did back then.
The humans sacrifices are prohibited in the Law of God yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975




Go back under your rock. You don't even know your own Bible, since it obvious you question the very tenants...
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Numbers 18:15 "Every first issue of the womb of all flesh, whether man or animal, which they offer to the LORD, shall be yours; nevertheless the firstborn of man you shall surely redeem, and the firstborn of unclean animals you shall redeem.

iamwith Stay evil, OP. You will see what you get for.
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
Actually you answer my own question. If NOTHING is destroyed during the cruxifiction WHAT IN GODS NAME WAS THE PURPOSE????????????? NO LOGICAL SENSE HERE FOLKS... why even bother to have your son die if its all a moot point? I guess it really does not mean anything after all...
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Logic is just a tool. Because something does not make sense, is because you do not have all the information and expect things to fit into the tight little logic tool. Only God knows everything. Logic is a tool that applies to your thinking, not to God. When you have faith you will realize that when things do not seem to make "logical sense", it is because you are able to reject the restriction of logic.
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What?!?!?!?!? The LAW was written by god according to your own Bible as was sacrifice as was the purpose of the crucifiction. I love the thumpers they can't even answer their own questions....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Only satanists sacrifice humans. Like the Levites did back then.
The humans sacrifices are prohibited in the Law of God yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975




Go back under your rock. You don't even know your own Bible, since it obvious you question the very tenants...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Numbers 18:15 "Every first issue of the womb of all flesh, whether man or animal, which they offer to the LORD, shall be yours; nevertheless the firstborn of man you shall surely redeem, and the firstborn of unclean animals you shall redeem.

iamwith Stay evil, OP. You will see what you get for.
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Oh, evil? Really? I probably have better morals than you. But because I'm not a spiritual boot licker, cowering in fear to some God that acts like a spoiled little child, you mock me? Even if this God of your exists, I will gladly tell him what I think on the last day. Some of us have balls and principles...
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
I have studied them, been one, and logically mulled through the tenants of Christianity for years and they make absolutely NO SENSE.

God punishes ALL humans based on the actions of the original pair? Would you condemn your grandkids and their granskids for the inequity of your children? Most parents would not.

God destroys the world in a flood to cleanse the Earth? Would you burn down your house to get rid of a roach problem? Probably not.

God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.

God sends his Son to die for humans, and resurrects him on the 3rd day. Does that not mean that the blood sacrifice (speaking of which why does "god" need a blood sacrifice?) of Jesus was null, if he was resurrected? Sort of like paying for something and then stealing your money back.

The entire Bible makes absolutely NO SENSE. Its a book from primative men, and creative writers, for one purpose of unifying an Empire and creating spiritual slaves to passify civilization...
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Earth(as we know it)is not home it's footstool...

and that's why you have CHRIST....to answer all your other questions.

Punish?!
no Bro it's learning that's what happening here.How do you think any child learns?

Until you understand the beginning and the end....

it will be hard for you to understand what is taking place as of this moment....you and everyone else is involved wether you like it or not.

Realize what Christ came to correct...
Who HE is representing....

and who He is redeeming...

and how Revelation...
points to what WE ARE IN.......NOW

IT explains the why's in a big way...

the experience....and who we relate too...NOW that WE HAVE gone through this experience...or continuing to learn in it.

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Actually you answer my own question. If NOTHING is destroyed during the cruxifiction WHAT IN GODS NAME WAS THE PURPOSE????????????? NO LOGICAL SENSE HERE FOLKS... why even bother to have your son die if its all a moot point? I guess it really does not mean anything after all...
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Logic is just a tool. Because something does not make sense, is because you do not have all the information and expect things to fit into the tight little logic tool. Only God knows everything. Logic is a tool that applies to your thinking, not to God. When you have faith you will realize that when things do not seem to make "logical sense", it is because you are able to reject the restriction of logic.
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Mental crutch and red herring. You ascribe the unknown to a "god", nicely placed in a package and wrapped? What? So god is not logical? What planet, or shall I say, what god do you worship? Faith is a tool for those that can't think things through, and roll the dice hoping they are right...
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
Jesus and the entire BIBLE texts are plagarized mythos of previous, much older, PAGAN cultures!!! Why is that so difficult for some of you guys to wrap around your heads? Christianity is heavily steeped in PAGAN beliefs....
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Nm but they give nothing when they feel you wont help , only there road ?

Strange and with hate.
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Nm but they give nothing when they feel you wont help , only there road ?

Strange and with hate.
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Once again - CHRISTANITY is steeped in PAGANISM. Christmas, the 12 apostles, Jesus, the crucifiction, EVERYTHING! Do you even know how Christianity came into existence? Look up Constantine and the crumbling Roman Empire...
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cheers
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cheers
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Hahahaha, correct. Its Monday, or shall I say Moon Day... oh, hey, once again PAGAN...
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cheers
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Hahahaha, correct. Its Monday, or shall I say Moon Day... oh, hey, once again PAGAN...
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THE MOON IS FLAT!
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
Jesus and the entire BIBLE texts are plagarized mythos of previous, much older, PAGAN cultures!!! Why is that so difficult for some of you guys to wrap around your heads? Christianity is heavily steeped in PAGAN beliefs....
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either way .......your lack of acknowleging GOD even as personal...is needed. But im sure you believe in a conscience, right...so why is it sooo hard to that there is ONE SUPREME GOD...

HOLINESS...SEEK IT!
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cheers
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Thank God at least one American knows the correct term!

Now all we need is an American poster to use the term "ect, ect, ect".

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Nm but they give nothing when they feel you wont help , only there road ?

Strange and with hate.
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Once again - CHRISTANITY is steeped in PAGANISM. Christmas, the 12 apostles, Jesus, the crucifiction, EVERYTHING! Do you even know how Christianity came into existence? Look up Constantine and the crumbling Roman Empire...
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DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW WE CAME INTO EXISTENCE?!

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY?

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Nm but they give nothing when they feel you wont help , only there road ?

Strange and with hate.
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Once again - CHRISTANITY is steeped in PAGANISM. Christmas, the 12 apostles, Jesus, the crucifiction, EVERYTHING! Do you even know how Christianity came into existence? Look up Constantine and the crumbling Roman Empire...
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DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW WE CAME INTO EXISTENCE?!

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY?
 Quoting: Daniel of the Rose


Nope, and we will probably never know. At least I acknowledge this, I don't throw up my hands and crutch it on "faith". Before we go down that road, will you not acknowledge that Christianity is heavily steeped in PAGANISM?
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
To me the tenants make perfect sense. It's all the superfluous language before and after said tenants that obfuscate their meanings.

Religion is hell.
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
Actually pagan beliefs have stolen parts of christianity. Because the promise of Jesus was given by God to Adam.
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Moreso than Islam.
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Re: Do the tenants of Christianity EVEN MAKE LOGICAL SENSE?
God requires a LAW of humans that NO BODY can fulfill - what human would mandate laws that no one could ever live up to, sounds like slavery to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Paul was no Messiah. Unlike Jesus who was teaching fulfillment of the Law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


No ONE could fulfill it according to the Bible. So why even send your Son to fulfull a law and then kill him? Really where is the blood sacrifice if he simply was resurrected? Not much there? Sort of like buying me a gift and then taking it back...
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You read. But obviously do not understand what you read. Perhaps you are reading out of context.
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Nm but they give nothing when they feel you wont help , only there road ?

Strange and with hate.
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Once again - CHRISTANITY is steeped in PAGANISM. Christmas, the 12 apostles, Jesus, the crucifiction, EVERYTHING! Do you even know how Christianity came into existence? Look up Constantine and the crumbling Roman Empire...
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DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW WE CAME INTO EXISTENCE?!

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY?
 Quoting: Daniel of the Rose


Nope, and we will probably never know. At least I acknowledge this, I don't throw up my hands and crutch it on "faith". Before we go down that road, will you not acknowledge that Christianity is heavily steeped in PAGANISM?
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But YOU do acknowledge Paganism?
.......so you are warning people because why?
because if you don't acknowledge God...why are you caring if someone is followiing paganism or not....

So it's pretty like if you believe the Devil exists, but not God.


you need to soul search ....that's right you haven't

but you may need to.
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Once again - CHRISTANITY is steeped in PAGANISM. Christmas, the 12 apostles, Jesus, the crucifiction, EVERYTHING! Do you even know how Christianity came into existence? Look up Constantine and the crumbling Roman Empire...
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DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW WE CAME INTO EXISTENCE?!

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY?
 Quoting: Daniel of the Rose


Nope, and we will probably never know. At least I acknowledge this, I don't throw up my hands and crutch it on "faith". Before we go down that road, will you not acknowledge that Christianity is heavily steeped in PAGANISM?
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But YOU do acknowledge Paganism?
.......so you are warning people because why?
because if you don't acknowledge God...why are you caring if someone is followiing paganism or not....

So it's pretty like if you believe the Devil exists, but not God.


you need to soul search ....that's right you haven't

but you may need to.
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I actually do not believe either exists... god or the devil. That is dualist zoroastrianism...
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Nm but they give nothing when they feel you wont help , only there road ?

Strange and with hate.
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Once again - CHRISTANITY is steeped in PAGANISM. Christmas, the 12 apostles, Jesus, the crucifiction, EVERYTHING! Do you even know how Christianity came into existence? Look up Constantine and the crumbling Roman Empire...
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DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW WE CAME INTO EXISTENCE?!

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY?
 Quoting: Daniel of the Rose


NO!

AND NEITHER DO YOU!

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