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How would you react if we were visibly visited by an extraterrestial race who claimed that they engineered us, many tens of thousands of years ago? Would that change your faith, if they indicated that they were the creator? Why or why not? Thanks.
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No, it would not.

Why not? Because it was foretold.

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It would be wonderful knowing we aren't the only intelligent life in the universe. I can only assume that God created them as well in that He created everything. I'd then be even more overwhelmed by his power. No worries there!
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Op

I have a question for you

Have you ever experienced something so incredible that you know beyond a shadow of doubt that the experience has changed your life forever?


As to your question

No. Because beyond a shadow of doubt that the Creator is real.
It's supernatural and nothing these things do or say can change my experience with God. Test all spirits if they deny God they are against him and against humanity.
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Who created them?
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The point is it would nullify Christianity... and most other major religions.
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Why?? Are you saying God could not have created them?
If he can create us, he can create anything or anyone he wants to... on any world in the Cosmos..
What makes you think we are his only creation here on Earth?
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The same God that placed himself into the body of an earth man and had himself crucified to save his fellow earth-men from sin and is currently throwing all unbelievers into eternal hell? Not likely.
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Op

I have a question for you

Have you ever experienced something so incredible that you know beyond a shadow of doubt that the experience has changed your life forever?


As to your question

No. Because beyond a shadow of doubt that the Creator is real.
It's supernatural and nothing these things do or say can change my experience with God. Test all spirits if they deny God they are against him and against humanity.
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Ok can you tell me this

why would god create us

put us on earth

just to die

and go to heaven

wtf is the point

i dont get it
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How would you react if we were visibly visited by an extraterrestial race who claimed that they engineered us, many tens of thousands of years ago? Would that change your faith, if they indicated that they were the creator? Why or why not? Thanks.
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Soon we will be visited by 'supernatural' persons, claiming to be our creators, performing miracles, and demanding to be worshipped....people have claimed this in the past and will again in the future.

God knew this so he gave us a warning thru the apostle Paul of what to do. Here it is.

Galations 1:3b-9 "...our Lord Jesus Christ Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you that that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."


Answer: Don't believe them, don't worship them, let God curse them.
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On the money!!! This is the true answer.
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE.
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Who created them?
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The point is it would nullify Christianity... and most other major religions.
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Why?? Are you saying God could not have created them?
If he can create us, he can create anything or anyone he wants to... on any world in the Cosmos..
What makes you think we are his only creation here on Earth?
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The same God that placed himself into the body of an earth man and had himself crucified to save his fellow earth-men from sin and is currently throwing all unbelievers into eternal hell? Not likely.
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If He's throwing "unbelievers" into Hell despite His claim that *He* is the Author of our faith, then all bets are off, wouldn't you say?
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
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REVELATION14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
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REVELATION14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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Ok, then explain Islam, Voodoo, Buddhist, etc?
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I understand your confusion. I will tell you but I don't think that will make a difference till you seek for yourself.

When the Creator made man in his image. There was division between the angels. Which is known as the rebellion. When Adam
was created he was innocent like a child. Not having the knowledge of God. But having his likeness. Adam and Eve sinned
and ate of the tree of knowledge. This was forseen by God he did not intervene because he used evil situation and turned it around against itself. Due to Adam and Eve sinning death spiritually and physically came into play. Since our dna goes back to Adam and Eve we all have that original sin. Which meant that all people after Adam and Eve would go to Hell and Death would claim them. So God came in flesh to remove that curse of the original sin away. Died went into hell to remove all the people that were bound there because of original sin. Now we get to today, everyone has original sin and everyone dies. But because Jesus Christ died for our sins you do not have to be bound by original sin. You accept what he has done accept him as savior and receive his spirit. Which is something supernatural.
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
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REVELATION14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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Ok, then explain Islam, Voodoo, Buddhist, etc?
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only one as paid our sin debt, you have free will to choose.
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I would know that it was either some wack government experiment, project blue beam, or legions of demons themselves. It would only further confirm everything I've understood to be true.

Check out documentaries:

Iron Mountain Report

UFO Gateway to Hell
-Steve
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I understand your confusion. I will tell you but I don't think that will make a difference till you seek for yourself.

When the Creator made man in his image. There was division between the angels. Which is known as the rebellion. When Adam
was created he was innocent like a child. Not having the knowledge of God. But having his likeness. Adam and Eve sinned
and ate of the tree of knowledge. This was forseen by God he did not intervene because he used evil situation and turned it around against itself. Due to Adam and Eve sinning death spiritually and physically came into play. Since our dna goes back to Adam and Eve we all have that original sin. Which meant that all people after Adam and Eve would go to Hell and Death would claim them. So God came in flesh to remove that curse of the original sin away. Died went into hell to remove all the people that were bound there because of original sin. Now we get to today, everyone has original sin and everyone dies. But because Jesus Christ died for our sins you do not have to be bound by original sin. You accept what he has done accept him as savior and receive his spirit. Which is something supernatural.
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I simply cannot swallow any of that you wrote. Too much research into the matter. Sorry...
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I would ask who did create them.
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...and if they did not know?
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Both, them and us would be at the beginning, again. Full circle.
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i like what you did there.
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
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First of all, if you consider atheism, plus all the other religions, by the very definition of truth, they can't ALL be wrong, and only ONE can be right. I'm here to tell you that all the sects of Christianity today (largely speaking) are under the thumb of the catholic church, and are apostate and full of false teachings. The Holy Bible (KJV) is the true living breathing word of the one and only true God. And he said that the only way to him is through the man Jesus Christ. Nearly everyone, especially in the 20th centuries, especially in America and other moderenized nations, have had access to the Bible, and are at least somewhat familiar with the story. There are no excuses.
-Steve
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


First of all, if you consider atheism, plus all the other religions, by the very definition of truth, they can't ALL be wrong, and only ONE can be right. I'm here to tell you that all the sects of Christianity today (largely speaking) are under the thumb of the catholic church, and are apostate and full of false teachings. The Holy Bible (KJV) is the true living breathing word of the one and only true God. And he said that the only way to him is through the man Jesus Christ. Nearly everyone, especially in the 20th centuries, especially in America and other moderenized nations, have had access to the Bible, and are at least somewhat familiar with the story. There are no excuses.
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But Christianity as we know it comes from the Church and was assembled at the behest of Constantine hoping to save an Empire...
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The main thing that you have to understand is that you are in his likeness. So he expects you his image to be Godly as he is. Not act like animals. You have two natures and that is due to original sin. To act like an animal (sinful nature). Or (Divine nature) Spirit. If you come to God he fills you with his spirit that you and him would as one. In other words he brings you into his godhead. Someone made of clay by Gods spirit he bring you to himself. That you to would be just like him.
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


First of all, if you consider atheism, plus all the other religions, by the very definition of truth, they can't ALL be wrong, and only ONE can be right. I'm here to tell you that all the sects of Christianity today (largely speaking) are under the thumb of the catholic church, and are apostate and full of false teachings. The Holy Bible (KJV) is the true living breathing word of the one and only true God. And he said that the only way to him is through the man Jesus Christ. Nearly everyone, especially in the 20th centuries, especially in America and other moderenized nations, have had access to the Bible, and are at least somewhat familiar with the story. There are no excuses.
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But Christianity as we know it comes from the Church and was assembled at the behest of Constantine hoping to save an Empire...
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Negative. Genuine scripture and bible managed to survive by God's will, this is historically documented.

[link to www.youtube.com]

God wants a bride, a group of people who will keep his commandments and love him. His entire plan would be null & void if he didn't keep his Holy Word in tact. He is not a controlling God. The fact is that he knows that only His way produces peace. Man's way, and the way of this world, lead to bondage, hurt, sorrow, selfishness, and destruction.

EDIT: and in any case "First of all, if you consider atheism, plus all the other religions, by the very definition of truth, they can't ALL be wrong, and only ONE can be right." <-- this still stands and is indisputable.

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The Bible talks about when the Rapture happes there will be a Grande Delusion.. Most Christians believe it will either be a worldwide earthquake or Mostlikly UFO's and the world who are left behind will believe the UFO's took us..
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Why do the Christians always cite Bible texts that indicate if I don't believe that god should cruse me? Thats not very nice. How in the hell am I supposed to know what the true religion is, if there even is one, with the thousands of sects of major (differing) religions worldwide???? Religion is basically an element of TIME and LOCATION. Nothing more. If you were born in the ME you would be Islamist, believing that YOUR religion is the one and true one... if my soul is at stake, should not god at least make an effort to tell everyone at one time, globally what he expects??? How difficult is that?? He is god...
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First of all, if you consider atheism, plus all the other religions, by the very definition of truth, they can't ALL be wrong, and only ONE can be right. I'm here to tell you that all the sects of Christianity today (largely speaking) are under the thumb of the catholic church, and are apostate and full of false teachings. The Holy Bible (KJV) is the true living breathing word of the one and only true God. And he said that the only way to him is through the man Jesus Christ. Nearly everyone, especially in the 20th centuries, especially in America and other moderenized nations, have had access to the Bible, and are at least somewhat familiar with the story. There are no excuses.
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But Christianity as we know it comes from the Church and was assembled at the behest of Constantine hoping to save an Empire...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872

Negative. Genuine scripture and bible managed to survive by God's will, this is historically documented.

[link to www.youtube.com]

God wants a bride, a group of people who will keep his commandments and love him. His entire plan would be null & void if he didn't keep his Holy Word in tact. He is not a controlling God. The fact is that he knows that only His way produces peace. Man's way, and the way of this world, lead to bondage, hurt, sorrow, selfishness, and destruction.
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Soooo, the council of Niccea and Trent don't mean anything to you, or Eusibius, etc?
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First of all, if you consider atheism, plus all the other religions, by the very definition of truth, they can't ALL be wrong, and only ONE can be right. I'm here to tell you that all the sects of Christianity today (largely speaking) are under the thumb of the catholic church, and are apostate and full of false teachings. The Holy Bible (KJV) is the true living breathing word of the one and only true God. And he said that the only way to him is through the man Jesus Christ. Nearly everyone, especially in the 20th centuries, especially in America and other moderenized nations, have had access to the Bible, and are at least somewhat familiar with the story. There are no excuses.
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But Christianity as we know it comes from the Church and was assembled at the behest of Constantine hoping to save an Empire...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872

Negative. Genuine scripture and bible managed to survive by God's will, this is historically documented.

[link to www.youtube.com]

God wants a bride, a group of people who will keep his commandments and love him. His entire plan would be null & void if he didn't keep his Holy Word in tact. He is not a controlling God. The fact is that he knows that only His way produces peace. Man's way, and the way of this world, lead to bondage, hurt, sorrow, selfishness, and destruction.
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Soooo, the council of Niccea and Trent don't mean anything to you, or Eusibius, etc?
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Hey man if you want answers try watching the documentary. I also mentioned two other documentaries (Iron Mountain Report & UFO Gateway to Hell (which can be found online)) which explain exactly how your little "ufo alien invasion theory" play into all of this.

I'm not going to argue with you, but I will say that at those councils, the Bible was not rewritten, it was more about reinstating papal authority. But you can believe what you want. And in fact, as it's written, those who love not the truth, and take pleasure in unrighteousness will be given over to the lies of the world. I've tried sharing the truth with you, that's the best I can do. I pray God deals with you mercifully and opens your eyes to the truth. Good luck.
-Steve
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How would you react if we were visibly visited by an extraterrestial race who claimed that they engineered us, many tens of thousands of years ago? Would that change your faith, if they indicated that they were the creator? Why or why not? Thanks.
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They will never bother me, because I belong to Jesus.
The demons immediately retreat when anyone rebukes them in the name of Jesus Christ.
They hate the Cross.
These "aliens" are demonic; do not be deceived.
If they managed to communicate with me and tell me they are the creator, I would tell them they lie, because I KNOW the Creator of the world and all that is in it.
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How would you react if we were visibly visited by an extraterrestial race who claimed that they engineered us, many tens of thousands of years ago? Would that change your faith, if they indicated that they were the creator? Why or why not? Thanks.
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They will never bother me, because I belong to Jesus.
The demons immediately retreat when anyone rebukes them in the name of Jesus Christ.
They hate the Cross.
These "aliens" are demonic; do not be deceived.
If they managed to communicate with me and tell me they are the creator, I would tell them they lie, because I KNOW the Creator of the world and all that is in it.
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Amen and Amen, God has blessed you mightily to know the truth. Keep strong in the faith my friend and may God continue to bless you :)
-Steve
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I would ask them if they are here under the authority of Jesus Christ and after they shriek and cower off into the shadows from the mere mention of the King of Kings name I would shrug my shoulders, fall to my knees and give all glory to God, Amen.
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How would you react if we were visibly visited by an extraterrestial race who claimed that they engineered us, many tens of thousands of years ago? Would that change your faith, if they indicated that they were the creator? Why or why not? Thanks.
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I honestly expect this to happen eventually, it appears that we have been set up to be told this. The New Age community seems to expect it, and they channel their info from demons/aliens. Do a little research on how alien abductions can be stopped in the name of Jesus Christ, it's pretty startling.
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I would ask them if they are here under the authority of Jesus Christ and after they shriek and cower off into the shadows from the mere mention of the King of Kings name I would shrug my shoulders, fall to my knees and give all glory to God, Amen.
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clappa
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Give this a watch OP, it ties in demons/ufo/illuminati together fairly well.
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How would you react if we were visibly visited by an extraterrestial race who claimed that they engineered us, many tens of thousands of years ago? Would that change your faith, if they indicated that they were the creator? Why or why not? Thanks.
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I honestly expect this to happen eventually, it appears that we have been set up to be told this. The New Age community seems to expect it, and they channel their info from demons/aliens. Do a little research on how alien abductions can be stopped in the name of Jesus Christ, it's pretty startling.
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^^This
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As a Mormon, we believe that this earth is one of countless worlds created by God, and that we do in fact have extraterrestrial brothers and sisters. However these other beings are also created of God, and also, in his image.

Meaning: they also are human beings.

It states in the book of Revelation that God would send a strong delusion, to create a means by which the faithful would stand by the "truth" they claim to believe - or fall prey to this "strong delusion".

Also remember that Jesus Christ stated in the New Testament "other sheep have I, which are not of this fold."

We Mormons believe that Christ died for the atonement and salvation of ALL of God's children - those on this earth, and also other worlds.

The reason Jesus Christ was born into mortality on this world, to fulfill the plan of salvation designed by God, was because THIS world was the most evil of all the worlds of God's creation; the only world evil enough to kill their own savior.

So as a Christian generally and a Mormon specifically, an alien encounter seems not only possible, but maybe even likely. I can't fathom how the majority of people will follow the antichrist willingly without a strong delusion that has reason and logic behind that delusion.

As for me, the appearance if a true offworld race of beings will only strengthen my beliefs and help me resist the urge to fall prey to the delusion - one we have been warned will indeed come.

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