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The Pope's Call for a World Authority is Brilliant and Prophetic

 
K.Kool
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"The world situation requires the concerted effort of everyone, a thorough examination of every facet of the problem – social, economic, cultural and spiritual. The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation, ‘seeks but one goal: to carry forward the work of Christ under the lead of the befriending Spirit. And Christ entered this world to give witness to the truth; to save, not to judge; to serve, not to be served.’
With these words, in the prophetic and always relevant Encyclical Populorum Progressio of 1967, Paul VI outlined in a clear way “the trajectories” of the Church’s close relation with the world. These trajectories intersect in the profound value of human dignity and the quest for the common good, which make people responsible and free to act according to their highest aspirations."


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If you read the actual address, not the slanted media interpretations, it makes a lot of sense, and strips away the usual paranoia attached to the concept of a world government.
It is entirely possible to achieve, without the evils of communism, or loss of liberty.
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Why dont you just piss off back to your blog?

I mean really..you are a simpleton, regressive and attitusde to boot.

You really annoy me.
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Why dont you just piss off back to your blog?

I mean really..you are a simpleton, regressive and attitusde to boot.

You really annoy me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28293300



Don't think I'd like you either.
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:ywan:

Soooooo....how is the Ice Age going?

cruise

Oh yes, Compass...yanno the geraldine Dogue show is airing about RC Pedos.....make SURE to watch.

cruise
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Plus..I see your tread with this one...

Thread: Evil Vatican calls for one world government
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I think christ was trying to restore balance to the world. Our reliance on technology, slavery to machines, is the opposite. So what do you believe to be the mission of the 2nd coming?
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The RCC is responsible 4 more innocent deaths than islam & everyone else combined!
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christanity is loosing it's grip on the masses. This is an attempt to get them back under their control.
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God gives free will, Government, people, and politicians taketh away.
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Please don't fall for this deception....


Do you really think that the one world government isn't going to be appealing ?

It's going to be appealing because they will lie to get it enacted just like Obama lies to the American people just to get votes

he told us how great the trillion dollar stimulus in 2008 would be and how it would save our economy and bring the jobs back etc.....etc.....

It was all a lie and most of the money went as kickbacks to the people that got him into office


Jesus said the lie at the end would be so close that it would deceive the very elect if possible

Remember ....it was God himself that separated the people and scattered them when they had a one world order and they were building the Tower of Babel

DON'T FALL FOR THE DECEPTION .... Satan lied to eve ....the Vatican is lying to the people now
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This will fail if it ever is in any figment what so ever.

Because?

This thought is failed before it even began to think up that thought from the fail pail.

Slam bang goes my mallet in the left hand and my mace in the right one....off with that thought that is thinking inside that boney head.
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I think christ was trying to restore balance to the world. Our reliance on technology, slavery to machines, is the opposite. So what do you believe to be the mission of the 2nd coming?
 Quoting: Dr. Greenthumb



There is this idea that technology alone can save us,
but without a morality, what we will face as poverty sweeps through the developed countries as well as the already poor ones, is a collapse of democracy and increased violence.



"The great economic and social development of the past century, with their bright spots and serious shadows, can also be attributed in large part to the continued development of technology and more recently to advances in information technologies and especially their applications in the economy and most significantly in finance. However, to interpret the current new social question lucidly, we must avoid the error – itself a product of neo-liberal thinking – that would consider all the problems that need tackling to be exclusively of a technical nature. In such a guise, they evade the needed discernment and ethical evaluation. In this context Benedict XVI's encyclical warns about the dangers of the technocracy ideology: that is, of making technology absolute, which “tends to prevent people from recognizing anything that cannot be explained in terms of matter alone” and minimizing the value of the choices made by the concrete human individual who works in the economic-financial system by reducing them to mere technical variables."


The mission of the 2nd coming?

Interesting question (thanks!)

It is to bring justice to the world, a judgement on the whole world, not only a personal one that happens when you die.
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Please don't fall for this deception....


Do you really think that the one world government isn't going to be appealing ?

It's going to be appealing because they will lie to get it enacted just like Obama lies to the American people just to get votes

he told us how great the trillion dollar stimulus in 2008 would be and how it would save our economy and bring the jobs back etc.....etc.....

It was all a lie and most of the money went as kickbacks to the people that got him into office


Jesus said the lie at the end would be so close that it would deceive the very elect if possible

Remember ....it was God himself that separated the people and scattered them when they had a one world order and they were building the Tower of Babel

DON'T FALL FOR THE DECEPTION .... Satan lied to eve ....the Vatican is lying to the people now
 Quoting: Simple_Man


This^^^^^^^
Its a trap. WAKE UP AMERICA
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Look at St Peter Square it is totally a point of worship to the sungod aman ra!
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There is instilled in every man a rebellious nature from birth....if this thought tries to move into this mans free jungle.

Every savage rebellious natured man will be stirred up worse than millions of legions to attack and devour this..

Because?

That God given instinct will take out the lofty mind that lifted its self up.

That is what it is there for.

To be stirred up when need be loftiness looks to take the reigns.

Chomp shred tear thump...drag crunch then swallow it away then out back it goes unto the earth cast off.
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Figures, Any body remember the dark ages? The pope doesn't.
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Figures, Any body remember the dark ages? The pope doesn't.
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Refresher courses are boring brutal to even have to endure such boredom.

Light the fires before they begin.
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Thread: Calling every king and queen, every religious authority, every politician, every banker, every oil company exec, and every proclaimed messiah...
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"Benedict XVI precisely identified the roots of a crisis that is not only economic and financial but above all moral in nature. In fact, as the Pontiff notes, to function correctly the economy needs ethics; and not just of any kind but one that is people-centred. He goes on to denounce the role played by utilitarianism and individualism and the responsibilities of those who have adopted and promoted them as the parameters for the optimal behaviour of all economic and political agents who operate and interact in the social context. But Benedict XVI also identifies and denounces a new ideology, that of “technocracy”.


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hf
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why do we need authority when we're all sovereign,the fate
of the yid hun was sealed when David dIcke/edgar cayce opened
his mouth on the second centenary of the yid french
revolution,what's the difference between god and yid,god
wants us to be free,creates the habitat to be so,yid doesn't
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"The establishment of a world political Authority"

And how is this political Authority to be established? Without the vagueness...
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bsflag

the reason why this world is so fucked up is beacuse of politics and religion mixing.
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the reason why this world is so fucked up is beacuse of politics and religion mixing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29615928


That's only a symptom. There are places where religion is hardly a factor at all, yet those places still exist under horrid conditions. Even more horrid than areas where religion is a big factor.

For example: North Korea. It is unlikely that religion is the driving force behind the problems which exist there, thus the problem must lie elsewhere.
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yeah, let's listen to the one who was responsible for shuffling the kiddy fiddlers to other places to destroy more lives.

a great bastion of morality he is.
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Yes Brilliant, prophetic, idealistic and NIEVE! Alas, it will only happen if the element of free will is taken from humanity!
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One could say, the Pontif is a pontificator.
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"The world situation requires the concerted effort of everyone, a thorough examination of every facet of the problem – social, economic, cultural and spiritual. The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation, ‘seeks but one goal: to carry forward the work of Christ under the lead of the befriending Spirit. And Christ entered this world to give witness to the truth; to save, not to judge; to serve, not to be served.’
With these words, in the prophetic and always relevant Encyclical Populorum Progressio of 1967, Paul VI outlined in a clear way “the trajectories” of the Church’s close relation with the world. These trajectories intersect in the profound value of human dignity and the quest for the common good, which make people responsible and free to act according to their highest aspirations."


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 Quoting: K.Kool


fuck off
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What is important to avoiding over-bearing control is the principle of subsidiarity.

"What is valid on the national level is also valid on the global level. A person is not made to serve authority unconditionally. Rather, it is the task of authority to be at the service of the person, consistent with the pre-eminent value of human dignity. Likewise, governments should not serve the world Authority unconditionally. Instead, it is the world Authority that should put itself at the service of the various member countries, according to the principle of subsidiarity. Among the ways it should do this is by creating the socio-economic, political and legal conditions essential for the existence of markets that are efficient and efficacious because they are not over-protected by paternalistic national policies and not weakened by systematic deficits in public finances and of the gross national products – indeed, such policies and deficits actually hamper the markets themselves in operating in a world context as open and competitive institutions.
.....

According to the logic of subsidiarity, the higher Authority offers its subsidium, that is, its aid, only when individual, social or financial actors are intrinsically deficient in capacity, or cannot manage by themselves to do what is required of them.

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Only in this way can the danger of a central Authority’s bureaucratic isolation be avoided, which would otherwise risk being delegitimized by an excessive distance from the realities on which it is based and easily fall prey to paternalistic, technocratic or hegemonic temptations."



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C'mon GLP, read it, he sums up our financial situation so well,
surely someone has an intelligent response?


hiding


or has blind hate shut your minds off?
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bump


Looks like blind hate wins the day at GLP again.

I've been driven off this forum once before due to the anti-Catholic hatred and the Pope abuse, it's not gonna happen again.

These days I have sustenance :)
in the form of the bread of life.

You, the blind majority, can go on shutting yourselves in your dingey little prisons, thinking your dark thoughts on pedophilia and seeing evil where there is light,
insisting the world cannot be saved
and that we are doomed to be swamped by poverty and war.
Perhaps, after all, that is your co-creation
you can keep it
I've discovered the gateway to the whole universe
and it isn't how you say it is.

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