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The Pope's Call for a World Authority is Brilliant and Prophetic

 
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I can't argue with the statement posted in the OP. I think it's an excellent summary of what needs to be done from the point we are all at now. I think it shows that the Catholic Church has matured and evolved like everything else has. But, as far as trust goes, where do you put it? With the Pope? The government? The people?


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Our Pope is quite an intellect, 'tis true :)

The church wants no part of running it or being involved.

"The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation, ‘seeks but one goal: to carry forward the work of Christ under the lead of the befriending Spirit."


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So, the trust would have to be placed in the authority, with transparency laws.
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Well KK, that sounds like what our current President here in the States was offering before he was elected. And a lot of people put trust into the promises of the transparency that he offered. And from what I've seen of throughout his first term, that hasn't really happened yet. I don't think I could ever put any kind of trust into any governmental agency overseeing that much power and not taking advantage of it.


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The Vatican has the calendar system that most nations use for business and daily living so the Vatican religion is very much involved in world business and political activities. When the Vatican modernizes to the New Jerusalem calendar then the whole world will be modernized and based on God and Jesus Christ and the world problems will fade away and we will have our globally united planet.
Have a 2012 Merry Christmas
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I can't argue with the statement posted in the OP. I think it's an excellent summary of what needs to be done from the point we are all at now. I think it shows that the Catholic Church has matured and evolved like everything else has. But, as far as trust goes, where do you put it? With the Pope? The government? The people?


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Our Pope is quite an intellect, 'tis true :)

The church wants no part of running it or being involved.

"The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation, ‘seeks but one goal: to carry forward the work of Christ under the lead of the befriending Spirit."


[link to www.news.va]


So, the trust would have to be placed in the authority, with transparency laws.
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Well KK, that sounds like what our current President here in the States was offering before he was elected. And a lot of people put trust into the promises of the transparency that he offered. And from what I've seen of throughout his first term, that hasn't really happened yet. I don't think I could ever put any kind of trust into any governmental agency overseeing that much power and not taking advantage of it.


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While at a national level, politics may resume with its usual trepidation, at a global level, with the whole world's attention turned on you, it isn't so easy to avoid reckoning.

"The purpose of the public authority, as John XXIII recalled in Pacem in Terris, is first and foremost to serve the common good. Therefore, it should be endowed with structures and adequate, effective mechanisms equal to its mission and the expectations placed in it. This is especially true in a globalized world which makes individuals and peoples increasingly interconnected and interdependent, but which also reveals the existence of monetary and financial markets of a predominantly speculative sort that are harmful for the real economy, especially of the weaker countries. This is a complex and delicate process. A supranational Authority of this kind should have a realistic structure and be set up gradually. It should be favourable to the existence of efficient and effective monetary and financial systems; that is, free and stable markets overseen by a suitable legal framework, well-functioning in support of sustainable development and social progress of all, and inspired by the values of charity and truth. It is a matter of an Authority with a global reach that cannot be imposed by force, coercion or violence, but should be the outcome of a free and shared agreement and a reflection of the permanent and historic needs of the world common good. It ought to arise from a process of progressive maturation of consciences and freedoms as well as the awareness of growing responsibilities. Consequently, reciprocal trust, autonomy and participation cannot be overlooked as if they were superfluous elements. The consent should involve an ever greater number of countries that adhere with conviction, through a sincere dialogue that values the minority opinions rather than marginalizing them. So the world Authority should consistently involve all peoples in a collaboration in which they are called to contribute, bringing to it the heritage of their virtues and their civilizations. The establishment of a world political Authority should be preceded by a preliminary phase of consultation from which a legitimated institution will emerge that is in a position to be an effective guide and, at the same time, can allow each country to express and pursue its own particular good."


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C'mon GLP, read it, he sums up our financial situation so well,
surely someone has an intelligent response?


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or has blind hate shut your minds off?
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Vatican has it's own banks. It has unbelievable wealth. It launders money and has for years. It gives criminal bankers that have served it, santuary within it's walls as it is subject only to it's own laws.

It's wealth makes it one of the worlds most important political powers.

Believe me it is a scary place. If you get the chance read 'In God's name' by David Yallop. It covers murders, the mafia money laundering and its the major shareholder in the birth control pill among other large share holdings.
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MINISTRY OF DOGMATIC REVELATION



ministry of dogm





Dogma is now understood to be a truth appertaining to faith or morals, revealed by God, transmitted from the Apostles in the Scriptures or by tradition, and proposed by the Church for the acceptance of the faithful.

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"In a world on its way to rapid globalization, the reference to a world Authority becomes the only horizon compatible with the new realities of our time and the needs of humankind. However, it should not be forgotten that this development, given wounded human nature, will not come about without anguish and suffering. Through the account of the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:1-9), the Bible warns us how the “diversity” of peoples can turn into a vehicle for selfishness and an instrument of division. In humanity there is a real risk that peoples will end up not understanding each other and that cultural diversities will lead to irremediable oppositions. The image of the Tower of Babel also warns us that we must avoid a “unity” that is only apparent, where selfishness and divisions endure because the foundations of the society are not stable. In both cases, Babel is the image of what peoples and individuals can become when they do not recognize their intrinsic transcendent dignity and brotherhood. The spirit of Babel is the antithesis of the Spirit of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-12), of God’s design for the whole of humanity: that is, unity in truth. Only a spirit of concord that rises above divisions and conflicts will allow humanity to be authentically one family and to conceive of a new world with the creation of a world public Authority at the service of the common good."


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The Story of the Papacy.........

Its the Predicted Little Horn Power of The Book of Daniel,
In particular Daniel 7:25 IT sets its self up above God,
Thinks to Change God's Commandments Most Noticeably:
The 2nd (removed)& The 4th (attempt at altering)
[link to www.the-ten-commandments.org]

Then there's the 3 Nations the Papal armies plucked up
The Vandals, Ostrogoth and Heruli peoples (were deleted)
as found in Daniel 7:8

[link to www.endtimes-bibleprophecy.com]

(Daniel also predicted Not only the rise of the papacy before it ever existed, but also its brief fall before its deadly wound would be Healed)

The Papacy Fulfills all the criteria of The Beast/Whore Power of Revelation to Boot

Even calling for "a Central World Bank" The Very thing The Beast would need to enforce its Buying and selling laws.

The Papacy creates the Problems on Planet Earth
Usually two opposing Idea's than offers both parties a middle solution (Its Jesuits invented the Hegelian effect)

Anything That It Tells you should be pondered to what are they actually saying?

In this Case The Richest organization on Planet Earth Who Controls Kings and Presidents Is telling us we all need to unite to fix the Problems that it Actually created

Sorry Pope I'm not interested Because When you say Christ you Actually mean Lucifer!

[link to www.youtube.com]

The Papacy is the System of the Antichrist
AVOID AVOID AVOID AVOID ;)

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When it comes to leadership, we need to be lead by the greatest characters among us. Yet time and again we find that we are lead not by greatest characters, but by the least admirable characters among us. And the great ones? The get killed off. So, what if a great character was to make it to the global a stage, how would the world and more importantly, those who may be threatened by such a character's appearance, react today?


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When it comes to leadership, we need to be lead by the greatest characters among us. Yet time and again we find that we are lead not by greatest characters, but by the least admirable characters among us. And the great ones? The get killed off. So, what if a great character was to make it to the global a stage, how would the world and more importantly, those who may be threatened by such a character's appearance, react today?


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Are you thinking about who should be the global authority?

Obviously, it would be a group from many different countries,
with no concentration of power for any one individual.

Realistically, great characters will attract scorn and hate as well as admiration and support, and whether or not they manage to stay out of the way of killers is something humans can't ever hope to totally control.

I think Bono is one of the great characters on the world stage, as is the Pope, both Catholics, heh...I'm sure there must be others...?
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When it comes to leadership, we need to be lead by the greatest characters among us. Yet time and again we find that we are lead not by greatest characters, but by the least admirable characters among us. And the great ones? The get killed off. So, what if a great character was to make it to the global a stage, how would the world and more importantly, those who may be threatened by such a character's appearance, react today?


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Are you thinking about who should be the global authority?

Obviously, it would be a group from many different countries,
with no concentration of power for any one individual.

Realistically, great characters will attract scorn and hate as well as admiration and support, and whether or not they manage to stay out of the way of killers is something humans can't ever hope to totally control.

I think Bono is one of the great characters on the world stage, as is the Pope, both Catholics, heh...I'm sure there must be others...?
 Quoting: K.Kool


If that's the case KK, then I would think that something really drastic would need to occur with people in general and how they experience reality. Because the blueprint for any power structure is always pyramid shaped. Where those at the top have the best view of what's going on while those who comprise the rest of the structure are increasing left more in the dark as you work your way down the structure (compartmentalization).

If you get to vote Bono in, then I will vote for Roger Waters. As I'm sure he'd give the elites a good rogering. grinning


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When it comes to leadership, we need to be lead by the greatest characters among us. Yet time and again we find that we are lead not by greatest characters, but by the least admirable characters among us. And the great ones? The get killed off. So, what if a great character was to make it to the global a stage, how would the world and more importantly, those who may be threatened by such a character's appearance, react today?


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 Quoting: BOWMAN





Are you thinking about who should be the global authority?

Obviously, it would be a group from many different countries,
with no concentration of power for any one individual.

Realistically, great characters will attract scorn and hate as well as admiration and support, and whether or not they manage to stay out of the way of killers is something humans can't ever hope to totally control.

I think Bono is one of the great characters on the world stage, as is the Pope, both Catholics, heh...I'm sure there must be others...?
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the Pope is trying to head off a coming confrontation. the world is heading to socialism/communism

and the Pope has in mind the prophetic writings given to him from the Third Secret of Fatima

both issues bode ill for the Catholic Church and the Pope is working on reducing that threat.

He will be unsuccessful in his efforts and eventually the Catholic Church will be forced Underground.
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When it comes to leadership, we need to be lead by the greatest characters among us. Yet time and again we find that we are lead not by greatest characters, but by the least admirable characters among us. And the great ones? The get killed off. So, what if a great character was to make it to the global a stage, how would the world and more importantly, those who may be threatened by such a character's appearance, react today?


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 Quoting: BOWMAN





Are you thinking about who should be the global authority?

Obviously, it would be a group from many different countries,
with no concentration of power for any one individual.

Realistically, great characters will attract scorn and hate as well as admiration and support, and whether or not they manage to stay out of the way of killers is something humans can't ever hope to totally control.

I think Bono is one of the great characters on the world stage, as is the Pope, both Catholics, heh...I'm sure there must be others...?
 Quoting: K.Kool


If that's the case KK, then I would think that something really drastic would need to occur with people in general and how they experience reality. Because the blueprint for any power structure is always pyramid shaped. Where those at the top have the best view of what's going on while those who comprise the rest of the structure are increasing left more in the dark as you work your way down the structure (compartmentalization).

If you get to vote Bono in, then I will vote for Roger Waters. As I'm sure he'd give the elites a good rogering. grinning


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If people could let themselves believe we are capable of governing ourselves without extreme poverty and wars,
that drastic change would already be well underway.
Pope Benedict stresses the necessity of our individual changes, towards morality and seeking the common good.

Transparency is the cure for the kind of structures we've had.


"It would seem logical for the reform process to proceed with the United Nations as its reference because of the worldwide scope of its responsibilities, its ability to bring together the nations of the world, and the diversity of its tasks and those of its specialized Agencies. The fruit of such reforms ought to be a greater ability to adopt policies and choices that are binding because they are aimed at achieving the common good on the local, regional and world levels."

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I dunno about rock stars, lol, I think my vote would be for United Nations reforms.

"In 2007, Waters became a spokesman for Millennium Promise, a non-profit organisation that helps fight extreme poverty and malaria. He wrote an opinion piece for CNN in support of the topic.[114] Waters has been outspoken about Middle Eastern politics and in June 2009, he openly opposed the Israeli West Bank barrier, calling it an "obscenity" that "should be torn down".[115] In December 2009, Waters pledged his support to the Gaza Freedom March[116] and in March 2011, he announced that he had joined the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel"

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When it comes to leadership, we need to be lead by the greatest characters among us. Yet time and again we find that we are lead not by greatest characters, but by the least admirable characters among us. And the great ones? The get killed off. So, what if a great character was to make it to the global a stage, how would the world and more importantly, those who may be threatened by such a character's appearance, react today?


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 Quoting: BOWMAN





Are you thinking about who should be the global authority?

Obviously, it would be a group from many different countries,
with no concentration of power for any one individual.

Realistically, great characters will attract scorn and hate as well as admiration and support, and whether or not they manage to stay out of the way of killers is something humans can't ever hope to totally control.

I think Bono is one of the great characters on the world stage, as is the Pope, both Catholics, heh...I'm sure there must be others...?
 Quoting: K.Kool


the Pope is trying to head off a coming confrontation. the world is heading to socialism/communism

and the Pope has in mind the prophetic writings given to him from the Third Secret of Fatima

both issues bode ill for the Catholic Church and the Pope is working on reducing that threat.

He will be unsuccessful in his efforts and eventually the Catholic Church will be forced Underground.
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The apparitions of Mary should never occlude the church or the Bible, and there is much speculation about what the third one contains...
regardless, it doesn't take away the essentials of the christian message.

"In an interview conducted in November 1984, Cardinal Ratzinger (of the Holy Office) confirmed that, with the Pope’s permission, he had read the Secret and that it concerns, in his words, "a radical call to conversion, the absolute gravity of history, the dangers threatening the Faith and the life of a Christian, and therefore the world. And also the importance of the last times." The Cardinal went on to explain that "if it is not published ... it is to avoid confusing religious prophecy with sensationalism. But the things contained in the Third Secret correspond to what has been announced in Scripture and are confirmed by many other Marian apparitions."

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People that hate the Vatican don't necessarily hate catholic people

I don't hate catholic people.....I was once a dupe once to many a false religion.

So it would be hipocritical to hate everyone that just happens to be catholic because of deception.

What I don't have pity for is the high level cardinals and jesuits and the pope himself that usurp the authority of Jesus and call it THEIR AUTHORITY.

They don't have God's authority but speak for SATAN.

So my advice.....turn your back on the Papacy, start reading your bible and worshipping in Spirit and Truth which can't come by any doctrines of the catholic church (and many of her whorish so called protestant offspring).

Remember this.....The POPE doesn't beleive in the authority of the Word of God and many a pope has changed the words of God to take the finger off of themselves as the Anti-christ system.
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People that hate the Vatican don't necessarily hate catholic people

I don't hate catholic people.....I was once a dupe once to many a false religion.

So it would be hipocritical to hate everyone that just happens to be catholic because of deception.

What I don't have pity for is the high level cardinals and jesuits and the pope himself that usurp the authority of Jesus and call it THEIR AUTHORITY.

They don't have God's authority but speak for SATAN.

So my advice.....turn your back on the Papacy, start reading your bible and worshipping in Spirit and Truth which can't come by any doctrines of the catholic church (and many of her whorish so called protestant offspring).

Remember this.....The POPE doesn't beleive in the authority of the Word of God and many a pope has changed the words of God to take the finger off of themselves as the Anti-christ system.
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Happy to hear you don't hate Catholics Dr Kynes,
but what do you make of the words in the Bible then, that Jesus gave to Peter,
about establishing his church?
And about the bread at the last supper?
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People that hate the Vatican don't necessarily hate catholic people

I don't hate catholic people.....I was once a dupe once to many a false religion.

So it would be hipocritical to hate everyone that just happens to be catholic because of deception.

What I don't have pity for is the high level cardinals and jesuits and the pope himself that usurp the authority of Jesus and call it THEIR AUTHORITY.

They don't have God's authority but speak for SATAN.

So my advice.....turn your back on the Papacy, start reading your bible and worshipping in Spirit and Truth which can't come by any doctrines of the catholic church (and many of her whorish so called protestant offspring).

Remember this.....The POPE doesn't beleive in the authority of the Word of God and many a pope has changed the words of God to take the finger off of themselves as the Anti-christ system.
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Happy to hear you don't hate Catholics Dr Kynes,
but what do you make of the words in the Bible then, that Jesus gave to Peter,
about establishing his church?
And about the bread at the last supper?
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The very text used to make claim that Peter is given RULE is taken completely out of context. Even the Strong's Concordance (which is limited in understanding the original intent) states clearly that Peter is the "piece of a rock" and that the rock mentioned by Jesus "upon this rock I will build my church" is a MASS of rock--the same rock used for the parable of a house built upon a rock. The whole thing is taken out of context. Jesus asked Peter about who HE thought Jesus was. His reply that he was the Christ, the Son of the Living God IS THE ROCK upon which the church is built and clearly means that NO MEDIATOR ON EARTH and no man told him that. That was revealed to him by God the Father and THAT is what the church is built on--certainly not the "piece of rock" but the MASSIVE ROCK of personal revelation with God the Father of whom Jesus clearly says he came in the first place; "I am come so that you may know HIM who sent me." This has been totally twisted as so many other Scriptures are twisted by the Vatican since day one.

As to the bread (which I assume you are talking about the Eucharist), is ALSO TAKEN COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT AND TWISTED. First of all, they were at MEAL. They were eating and drinking in the normal reclined manner which they did in those times. By you reasoning, maybe we should all be laying down at leisure while taking the Eucharist? That would be ludicrous and you know it. Also, Jesus said "WHENEVER YOU DO THIS (meaning reclining at mealtime), "do this in remembrance of me." This simply means "grace" at meals--not some pomp and circumstance ritualistic mumbo-jumbo, mystical bull. Everything in the Catholic service is show and display, holier than thou crap. I should know, I grew up in it and not ONE single priest in my community or in all the surrounding communities were "celibate" by any stretch of the imagination. Every single one was homosexual and every single person I knew who went into the "ministry" (and I say that with contempt) was also homosexual. My own brother was "turned" by a priest and another molested which turned their lives into a living hell. They were ALL alcoholic, cigarette smoking hypocrites that would swoon if any male "played them" like I have seen so many "on the streets" get played by opportunists by offering sex to con them out of their money. Hitting priests up for money for a promise of sex was nauseating to me as well, but it surely showed me how corrupt that organization was and how sick in the head they were.

This is why I believed Christianity to be a joke growing up. Fortunately, I came to understand the difference between TRUE Christianity and the MYSTERY garbage of Catholicism. It is SATANIC through and through. The nuns were HORRIBLE people. I have seen them do utterly cruel things to CHILDREN and are probably responsible for MANY screwed up kids--one of which I remember quite clearly in Kindergarten who messed his pants IN UTTER FEAR. Another I knew went on to commit a horrible murder of two nuns WITH A CRUCIFIX. How ANYONE can defend Catholicism in this day and age is totally beyond me. It will have its ONE HOUR along with the other beasts with its so-called New World Order. In prophetic time, one hour is 28 days. THAT is how long their confederacy will last before they are totally destroyed (along with you, of course for spreading your Jesuit filth). Mock on you spawn of Satan. Your reward is approaching, and thankfully (for you), it won't be your EVERLASTING HELL. The thought of you burning in hell forever would really spoil my day. I would MUCH RATHER see you burnt up root and branch so that WE in the heavenly kingdom need NEVER SEE your sinful kind ever again. As far as many of your fellow believers, there are many conscientious believers who will make their stand with Christ's true believers when they hear the angels say: "Come out of her my people that you receive NOT her plagues".
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Hows about u shoving the pope up ur arss.

Thread: Super Rich Criminals ? Lets give them an even worst name...

Happy Holidays....You Pedo.
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FUCK OFF CATHOLIC CUNT

GO BACK TO BURNING BOOKS YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT
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The RCC is very much connected to government and political interest, it is done covertly. To call for a moral authority in the form of the church, obliterates the reality that christ lives within, we are DIVINE beings. It is true that the RCC is and always has been brutal, let's investigate the Knight of Malta which deceives people with their humanitarian front, only to enslave them in the end. Time is over for the RCC and all other denominations associated with it.
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The Vatican must stand up and admit they deceived the whole world !

Their three gods is not The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost, everybody knows that, they are Roman gods in the fantasy world! They have been hiding behind Christianity for 1700 years, a complete fraudulant regime.

It is the false vine of Christianity and it produced many daughters including Islam !

Father, Son and Holy Ghost is One Person Who works in three mighty Offices, it has never ever been three separate individuals as the false doctrine claims. God has a name and it is Jesus Who Is The Messiah, not the fraudulent 'jesus' prescribed by Lucifer for the people from that regime. On these grounds Catholism and Islam falls away it is a mega deception !!!!!

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In the Christian Kingdom there is no such thing as rulers only leaders.

Rulers lead you into destruction.

Leaders lead you to social success.

Rome/Catholism had 2000 years, a proven failure, they must close down and hand over all their property and gold to the poor.

It is impossible for the Pope to act as Jesus and be second in charge to God, as God is Jesus. The noose is around the neck of Catholism drunk with the blood of God's prophets and saints ! They have been praying to Satan all this time !

It is impossible for Muhammed to act as second in charge to God as God is Jesus/The Messiah. Islam puts Jesus/Messaih third in charge behind Muhammed, absolutely impossible as Jesus is God Almighty ! They have been praying to Satan all this time !

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The power of gold cannot supercede the power of The Holy Spirit, this god worship has come to an end. Everyone can see the whole financial system of the world is busy falling away !

Faithful saints across the world who were not deceived and therefore never took the mark of the beast can look up, their redemption is about to be a reality !

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E V E N T !
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People that hate the Vatican don't necessarily hate catholic people

I don't hate catholic people.....I was once a dupe once to many a false religion.

So it would be hipocritical to hate everyone that just happens to be catholic because of deception.

What I don't have pity for is the high level cardinals and jesuits and the pope himself that usurp the authority of Jesus and call it THEIR AUTHORITY.

They don't have God's authority but speak for SATAN.

So my advice.....turn your back on the Papacy, start reading your bible and worshipping in Spirit and Truth which can't come by any doctrines of the catholic church (and many of her whorish so called protestant offspring).

Remember this.....The POPE doesn't beleive in the authority of the Word of God and many a pope has changed the words of God to take the finger off of themselves as the Anti-christ system.
 Quoting: Dr_Kynes 14181948




Happy to hear you don't hate Catholics Dr Kynes,
but what do you make of the words in the Bible then, that Jesus gave to Peter,
about establishing his church?
And about the bread at the last supper?
 Quoting: K.Kool


The very text used to make claim that Peter is given RULE is taken completely out of context. Even the Strong's Concordance (which is limited in understanding the original intent) states clearly that Peter is the "piece of a rock" and that the rock mentioned by Jesus "upon this rock I will build my church" is a MASS of rock--the same rock used for the parable of a house built upon a rock. The whole thing is taken out of context. Jesus asked Peter about who HE thought Jesus was. His reply that he was the Christ, the Son of the Living God IS THE ROCK upon which the church is built and clearly means that NO MEDIATOR ON EARTH and no man told him that. That was revealed to him by God the Father and THAT is what the church is built on--certainly not the "piece of rock" but the MASSIVE ROCK of personal revelation with God the Father of whom Jesus clearly says he came in the first place; "I am come so that you may know HIM who sent me." This has been totally twisted as so many other Scriptures are twisted by the Vatican since day one.

As to the bread (which I assume you are talking about the Eucharist), is ALSO TAKEN COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT AND TWISTED. First of all, they were at MEAL. They were eating and drinking in the normal reclined manner which they did in those times. By you reasoning, maybe we should all be laying down at leisure while taking the Eucharist? That would be ludicrous and you know it. Also, Jesus said "WHENEVER YOU DO THIS (meaning reclining at mealtime), "do this in remembrance of me." This simply means "grace" at meals--not some pomp and circumstance ritualistic mumbo-jumbo, mystical bull. Everything in the Catholic service is show and display, holier than thou crap. I should know, I grew up in it and not ONE single priest in my community or in all the surrounding communities were "celibate" by any stretch of the imagination. Every single one was homosexual and every single person I knew who went into the "ministry" (and I say that with contempt) was also homosexual. My own brother was "turned" by a priest and another molested which turned their lives into a living hell. They were ALL alcoholic, cigarette smoking hypocrites that would swoon if any male "played them" like I have seen so many "on the streets" get played by opportunists by offering sex to con them out of their money. Hitting priests up for money for a promise of sex was nauseating to me as well, but it surely showed me how corrupt that organization was and how sick in the head they were.

This is why I believed Christianity to be a joke growing up. Fortunately, I came to understand the difference between TRUE Christianity and the MYSTERY garbage of Catholicism. It is SATANIC through and through. The nuns were HORRIBLE people. I have seen them do utterly cruel things to CHILDREN and are probably responsible for MANY screwed up kids--one of which I remember quite clearly in Kindergarten who messed his pants IN UTTER FEAR. Another I knew went on to commit a horrible murder of two nuns WITH A CRUCIFIX. How ANYONE can defend Catholicism in this day and age is totally beyond me. It will have its ONE HOUR along with the other beasts with its so-called New World Order. In prophetic time, one hour is 28 days. THAT is how long their confederacy will last before they are totally destroyed (along with you, of course for spreading your Jesuit filth). Mock on you spawn of Satan. Your reward is approaching, and thankfully (for you), it won't be your EVERLASTING HELL. The thought of you burning in hell forever would really spoil my day. I would MUCH RATHER see you burnt up root and branch so that WE in the heavenly kingdom need NEVER SEE your sinful kind ever again. As far as many of your fellow believers, there are many conscientious believers who will make their stand with Christ's true believers when they hear the angels say: "Come out of her my people that you receive NOT her plagues".
 Quoting: Zerubbabel




Wow.

I know you probably won't hear this, but hatred has shut down your mind and heart, I don't know what has contributed to it in your life, but I hope you will find a way through.


"Even the Strong's Concordance (which is limited in understanding the original intent) states clearly that Peter is the "piece of a rock"

What is 'Strong's Concordance' and why would you take its interpretation over the words in the Bible?

"13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

“But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

[link to www.biblegateway.com]


"Jesus said "WHENEVER YOU DO THIS (meaning reclining at mealtime), "do this in remembrance of me." This simply means "grace" at meals--not some pomp and circumstance ritualistic mumbo-jumbo, mystical bull."

I'm sorry, but I can't water down the words 'this is my body' to mean the saying of grace at mealtimes.
It makes sense to me that Jesus would leave behind a miraculous, supernatural way for his followers to be united with him, and to sustain them, and I can certainly testify as to the power of the sacraments in the Church personally, though I doubt you would believe me.

"26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."

[link to www.biblegateway.com]

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Call me perverse, but I'm liking the growing number of 1 stars

afro


One star...

like the one in the sky that led the three wise men to see the baby Jesus :)
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Yeah....I wouldn't take anything the whore of Babylon says to heart. Does anyone know just who the black pope is? If Catholicism was revived, they will yet again go on a Christian killing rampage. No dice.

Hmm, I sense a lot of pride and self righteousness, so I pose this question to you. Just when did God Himself confirm vocally that what you believe is true??? Just answer the question.

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Yeah....I wouldn't take anything the whore of Babylon says to heart. Does anyone know just who the black pope is? If Catholicism was revived, they will yet again go on a Christian killing rampage. No dice.

Hmm, I sense a lot of pride and self righteousness, so I pose this question to you. Just when did God Himself confirm vocally that what you believe is true??? Just answer the question.
 Quoting: cmoG530



First, tell me what you know about the black Pope?
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The Inquisition worked so well.
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The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation,

Truth and lies in that phrase alone - those alarm bells should be clanging loudly.
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The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation,

Truth and lies in that phrase alone - those alarm bells should be clanging loudly.
 Quoting: <ambiguous>



You suspect the Pope wants to be a world ruler?
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lol FUCK the pope, fuck religion and fuck you for being part of the problem SHEEP.5a5absflag
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The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation,

Truth and lies in that phrase alone - those alarm bells should be clanging loudly.
 Quoting: <ambiguous>



You suspect the Pope wants to be a world ruler?
 Quoting: K.Kool


General consensus is he will be one of the false prophets but not the 'one'. He was right in saying they've had long experience in human affairs but it's a blatant falsity they have no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation - they've been involved for centuries.
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Yeah....I wouldn't take anything the whore of Babylon says to heart. Does anyone know just who the black pope is? If Catholicism was revived, they will yet again go on a Christian killing rampage. No dice.

Hmm, I sense a lot of pride and self righteousness, so I pose this question to you. Just when did God Himself confirm vocally that what you believe is true??? Just answer the question.
 Quoting: cmoG530



First, tell me what you know about the black Pope?
 Quoting: K.Kool


I asked first. tounge
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Our Pope is quite an intellect, 'tis true :)

The church wants no part of running it or being involved.

"The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation, ‘seeks but one goal: to carry forward the work of Christ under the lead of the befriending Spirit."


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So, the trust would have to be placed in the authority, with transparency laws.
 Quoting: BOWMAN



Well KK, that sounds like what our current President here in the States was offering before he was elected. And a lot of people put trust into the promises of the transparency that he offered. And from what I've seen of throughout his first term, that hasn't really happened yet. I don't think I could ever put any kind of trust into any governmental agency overseeing that much power and not taking advantage of it.


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 Quoting: K.Kool




While at a national level, politics may resume with its usual trepidation, at a global level, with the whole world's attention turned on you, it isn't so easy to avoid reckoning.

"The purpose of the public authority, as John XXIII recalled in Pacem in Terris, is first and foremost to serve the common good. Therefore, it should be endowed with structures and adequate, effective mechanisms equal to its mission and the expectations placed in it. This is especially true in a globalized world which makes individuals and peoples increasingly interconnected and interdependent, but which also reveals the existence of monetary and financial markets of a predominantly speculative sort that are harmful for the real economy, especially of the weaker countries. This is a complex and delicate process. A supranational Authority of this kind should have a realistic structure and be set up gradually. It should be favourable to the existence of efficient and effective monetary and financial systems; that is, free and stable markets overseen by a suitable legal framework, well-functioning in support of sustainable development and social progress of all, and inspired by the values of charity and truth. It is a matter of an Authority with a global reach that cannot be imposed by force, coercion or violence, but should be the outcome of a free and shared agreement and a reflection of the permanent and historic needs of the world common good. It ought to arise from a process of progressive maturation of consciences and freedoms as well as the awareness of growing responsibilities. Consequently, reciprocal trust, autonomy and participation cannot be overlooked as if they were superfluous elements. The consent should involve an ever greater number of countries that adhere with conviction, through a sincere dialogue that values the minority opinions rather than marginalizing them. So the world Authority should consistently involve all peoples in a collaboration in which they are called to contribute, bringing to it the heritage of their virtues and their civilizations. The establishment of a world political Authority should be preceded by a preliminary phase of consultation from which a legitimated institution will emerge that is in a position to be an effective guide and, at the same time, can allow each country to express and pursue its own particular good."


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 Quoting: BOWMAN



This nails the problem with that utopian proposal---

Well KK, that sounds like what our current President here in the States was offering before he was elected. And a lot of people put trust into the promises of the transparency that he offered. And from what I've seen of throughout his first term, that hasn't really happened yet. I don't think I could ever put any kind of trust into any governmental agency overseeing that much power and not taking advantage of it.


And I shudder whenever anyone mentions "the common good" -- just know that 'the common good' DOES NOT INCLUDE YOU.


As for this--

While at a national level, politics may resume with its usual trepidation, at a global level, with the whole world's attention turned on you, it isn't so easy to avoid reckoning.

Reckoning is easily avoided when everybody but your Dear Leaders is DISARMED.
It's been hat way throughout history; not gonna change.

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