IF SHTF:::::Half of all Americans Won’t Survive 2 Weeks without Electricity - WILL YOU?

Exactly.

That's my point about normality, most are so pampered by having everything readily available at their whim, when that changes they are totally lost.

lost power last year for a week during oct ice storm and another week during sandy...so yeah i will.

What do you do with your poo if there's no utilities?

Now THAT'S an important question!!!

Are you serious?

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The sad truth is that we have become shadows of what our ancestors were. They could do far more things because they were generalists not technicians doing some small task as popularied by Henry Ford's grand automation experiment. There's a severe cost in being a specialist to such a degree.

While illiterate people did amazing things with growing crops, raising animals, hunting, trapping, fishing, building, creating utilitarian items, making art, discovering science, engineering, etc most people today are SHEEP.

While some have a deep survival mechanism, most people are quitters. I think if you'll watch a documentary on say spec ops like the US Navy Seals, you'll see very hardened tough individuals quitting when the situation is beyond their belief in themselves.

There's an inner voice that is self-defeating. It whispers into our ears and says, "You are no good. You are weak. You are worthless. Better give up." Most people will listen to that inner voice and die.

While it is possible to do all kinds of things, especially as a community, because most people have that weakness inside of them, instead of pulling together as a community and giving each other strength, then most will pillage each other for the last morsel of bread.

The fact that most of you have no idea what to do with human waste, locate wild edilbles, build a fire, build a shelter, source water, etc means that most of you will die in a true emergency.

There's also the fact that if you all work together, that most of you can make it by sharing resources and building something wonderful and living life in abundance should a collapse occur.

Some people will die in that process. That is the way of all change.

Asking these kinds of questions is the beginning of knowledge. Wisdom is about trying to accept that people have those weaknesses. Compassion is about trying to facilitate change so fewer die.

We can't change other's opinions. Only they can choose to believe and to change. We do have a responsibility to communicate as well as we can. We might have a responsibility as spiritual people to be persuasive. There's free will, so there are limits to the depth of our persuasiveness.

If you're interested in preparing in a profound way, and in communicating the message of preparing, and in sharing resources, then please join with me on the link above.

Real abundance can translate into a meaningful wealth. It's not goofy Kumbayah type of thinking, but practical steps in making your life stronger by learning skills, storing supplies like our ancestors did, and saving seed to keep growing things. That was what they felt was wealth, and they invested in their land and home.

There is NO POINT in preparing. Don't you guys realize the nuke plants will melt down?It has also been tossed around that it could take an entire generation to get the grid back up and running. Yes, we are talking 20 years.

I've been meaning to check out your thread for quite some time now. I'll do so tomorrow after work...

That "giving up" that you speak of, is, I believe, a generational thing. Generation X is the generation of quitters. I have a very close friend who studies such things and where I thought it was a man thing, lol, I've learned that it's the entire generation. We are going to be in serious trouble. Thanks for the above link, I will be pouring over it very soon and printing all valuable information.

Oh...and then there is this...and no matter how much we're prepared, some of us have forgotten this simple detail...nuclear plants. Nobody can save us from that...you've ruined my fantasy of survival quite nicely, thanks. Bleh!

So detonation of an EMP near a nuclear plant equals doom?

i have a genator hooked up to a gas well

move along, nothing to see here....

throw it out the window

I'm not sure I'll make it through this thread w/o electricity.

I don't get it. Why you need electricity to survive? You still have 2 arms and 2 legs. That's enough.

I love the idea of post apocalypse survival but yes, the nuclear plants mean nobody gets out alive.
Simple fact :-)

How will a nuclear plant shut down if it generates its own electricity through nuclear fission?

I am glad you are coming over to check out that topic. Anyone is welcome, even those who would challenge my beliefs, for it is in the dialectic process of discovering truth that real Truth come out. The more people look at phenomena and think of historical and innovative ways of coping, then the better our world could be.

Most people have no idea how to live anymore. They work at terrible jobs that they loathe, hate themselves, hate others, and buy shiny toys to momentarily make it all go away. Meanwhile their body's suffer with obesity, they treat their familes abominably, they are depressed, they are spiritually and morally bankrupt.

In ancient times, like-minded people lived in communities. As civilization grew, the tribes were crowded together and tried to live harmoniously. Of course most tribes were similar in composition and this allowed there to be less conflict. The more varied the tribe, the more differences there were. The proximity of another tribe meant more conflict as tribes competed for vital resources.

Today, we have intense amounts of people living in a small area. The number of species, both plant and animal, cannot survive based upon the carrying capacity of the Land. The only way a forest or meadow can survive is by all of the species working in harmony. If one apex predator kills the food supply, then the entire ecosystem suffers.

Anyone in an urban environoment is probably a specialist and hasn't the tools, skills, or supplies in order to become an agrarian generalist.

The availability of rainwater and groundwater is not sufficient, and so water is piped in to support their basic need to stave off dehydration and to clean themselves and keep disease and illness at bay.

There is not sufficient firewood to heat their domiciles or to cook.

There are not enough plant and animal species within their region to feed them.

All of these things require a supply chain to provide to these technicians so that they continue to do their specialized roles. In medieval times, the generalists lived at the periphery and sent their goods to the capitol. Today, corporate interests grow and ship these goods to the consumer. The smallest break in the supply chain will result in a loss of basic services.

Since people have forgotten how to live like their ancestors, in the time needed to relearn, most people will die. Think about it logically. It is Winter in the USA. From now until the first harvest of any sizable amounts of produce is six months.

In history, the long period of Winter-early Summer was survivable only because of abundant supplies saved up by preserving meat (jerky), drying beans, grain, and foraging for some water, firewood, and scant plant and animal sources.

Sure, Redbud trees have some seed pods on them. Maple sap can be harvested. Still, most food is harvested in the Fall, and if you don't have those supplies, then you should be purchasing them now.

If portion sizes continue to decline in amounts, and food prices increase in cost due to things like the Great Drought, then purchasing addition food supplies and rotating the food to prevent spoilage would be the easiest way to save money and actually is a form of investment.

Your a fool. When we lived without electricity before there were 1/3 of the people around and only did well because they grew up without it. Things are different now. Whom has mule teams and harness and dirt plows. Get a grip.

The hive will only take hold after most are dead and the rest will then pull it together once all the shit is out of the way.

Even back in the day of Little House on the Prairie they shot the bandits and Indian Raiders. Its going to be no different except the Bandits won't be on Horse Back.

You need to read one Second After. Get your eyes opened a little.

Better than all that. Remenber what you said here when they come for you.

My septic system will keep working, but if it comes to a shortage of water for the john I can go poop in the field by my acreage. If I feel really industrious I can dig a hole and put up an old fashioned out house. That's what rural living is all about, and I would hate to be in a city without power.

I think that many many people are tired and they are just ready to accept their fate and get it over with.We even see threads here often saying they wish their time would come or they are ready to go.
There is not a lot to look forward to any more and many of us are just tired of struggling to keep on struggling.

Add to that list all the Alcoholics. Drug users. Meth addicts. Cocaine addicts. Mental patience. Pedo's. Rapists. Gang Bangers. Bikers. Its a long list of fringe that have nothing to loose and will just keep going till they are killed or die of natural causes.

Many will survive half a year on body fat alone.