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Just listened to Wharf Rat on Sirius. 5 stars and pin suggestion

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this has always crazed my mind


"It isn't widely known but Cornell was actually the second test of these mind control procedures. The first occurred in mid-1975 and was a dismal failure. 2 major mistakes were made. First, they picked the one time that the Dead were not touring. This created all sorts of problems with the subject audience. The more serious mistake was in not updating the criteria of the experiment. Due to typical government inefficiency, they used the 1969 version of the Dead that was playing when the program was conceived. The sudden appearance of Pigpen, who had died 2 years earlier, literally blew the minds of those in attendance. 6 months were spent erasing all traces of the "show" and carefully rebuilding as much of their minds as possible. The
subjects were eventually released and most of them became evangelists, their only lingering memory of the whole experiment being an unshakeable belief that they'd witnessed a true miracle.

Unfortunately, no tapes have been found from this first experiment. That's a real shame because the version of Dark Star-> St Stephen-> Eleven-> Lovelight used was supposedly the best ever. After a few drinks, the original scientists still speak in awe about the music heard that day.

By Nov 1977, everyone was ready for the second test. This time, they learned from their mistakes. A small group of college students were hired to attend shows from 1976 through 1977. Our job was to collect tapes of the Dead's performances, select which tunes to use, and to
help identify subjects for the upcoming experiment. The location and date were chosen with equal care. It was a off-day during the tour and the location close enough to the real concerts to be believed. Of more
importance was the late snowfall that day. That unusual and easily confirmed event provided the glue that would hold the implanted memories together. Even now 22 years later, people "remembering" that concert use almost identical words to describe leaving the show.

Overall, the experiment was a great success. Of course, some people were given slightly different memories. Some, like Teddy Goodbear, "remember" taping the show and were even provided "Audience" tapes to further cement the hoax. Still others remember getting "horribly smashed" up front. None of this actually occurred.

A week after the "concert" experiment, a 2nd test was done on the town of Cornell itself. In order to perfect this hoax, the town itself must also be convinced that the concert took place. Disney had acquired owner- ship of all the local TV and radio stations through dummy corporations. Using special chips developed by Microsoft, they played sublimbminal messages to every man, woman and child in a 100 mile radius of Barton Hall. For the most part, this programming still holds today although some people did prove resistant to the message.

As far as the source of the music, for the most part the list posted by "brew ziggins" is correct. The only mystery remaining is the Scarlet-> Fire. That was actually performed by the Dead specifically for this experiment. Since Jerry worked for the CIA, it was easy to convince him and the rest of the band to go along. Plus he liked the idea of "pranking" a large group of people like this. The fabled 2/6/77 "take a step back" rehearsal tape is also from material taped for these experiments.

The soundboard tapes in circulation were leaked by Betty O'Connell who
edited the original tapes. I don't know if it was just a coincidence or not, but they were leaked at about the same time as the tapes recorded by Betty Cantor were found. In any event, they became part of the so-called "Betty Boards". Leaking these tapes also provided the first cracks in the hoax to appear since the tapes were distributed to people who were not in the experiment and who knew that no show was performed that day. It was necessary to obtain their silence through blackmail, bribery and in extreme cases, mind control itself. That's also how this "show" came to be listed in all the popular Dead show guides like DeadBase.

So what's happened to these mind control techniques used in this experiment? Microsoft has used this power to become one of the biggest, most influential companies in history. They sure didn't become that big by providing quality products. It was used to shape public reaction to the Gulf War. It's also clear that George Bush never understood the full power of these methods. . There are also indications that this technology might explain the otherwise unbelievable popularity of rap music.

That's the whole story.

"BARTON HALL, ITHACA, NY 5/8/77 -- The Show That Never Happened"


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Been to a LOT of shows over the years and did a LOT of things to awaken myself. Not so good on the memory.

I remember one show, towards the end, there was this show in Oakland. The band wasn't meshing right that night and you could hear Jerry's frustration in his playing. After a while everyone left the stage and it was only Jerry. He played some amazing stuff by himself up on that stage. Later on he did the most amazing version of standing on the moon. I want to say he started it out by himself and only half way through the band joined him but I was pretty wasted.

Got to meet him once thanks to Dennis McNally. I was covering a show for an entertainment magazine. I handed him the biggest, purplest cap I ever had and said thanks. He took it looked me right in the eyes and gave me the warmest, most sincere smile I ever encountered in another person. Had a nice conversation with him about all types of things. Great guy and huge influence on my life musically.

I LOVE the Grateful Dead:)
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Jerry scuba diving popcorn

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Muthafuckin Brent!!!!!!


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heres essen germany 03-28-1981 HD
Broadcasting Date..: August 19, 2007


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Jerry is still alive.
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"so many roads" on this one


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Saint Stephen/Not Fade Away/Saint Stephen/Morning Dew
Grateful Dead - Cornell University - Barton Hall - Ithaca, NY - 5/8/77

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My current favorite Dead moment....please listen to the whole thing with good speakers/headphones.

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Thanks much for the posts everyone.


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Been to a LOT of shows over the years and did a LOT of things to awaken myself. Not so good on the memory.

I remember one show, towards the end, there was this show in Oakland. The band wasn't meshing right that night and you could hear Jerry's frustration in his playing. After a while everyone left the stage and it was only Jerry. He played some amazing stuff by himself up on that stage. Later on he did the most amazing version of standing on the moon. I want to say he started it out by himself and only half way through the band joined him but I was pretty wasted.

Got to meet him once thanks to Dennis McNally. I was covering a show for an entertainment magazine. I handed him the biggest, purplest cap I ever had and said thanks. He took it looked me right in the eyes and gave me the warmest, most sincere smile I ever encountered in another person. Had a nice conversation with him about all types of things. Great guy and huge influence on my life musically.

I LOVE the Grateful Dead:)
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AWESOME story and what an incredible opportunity.

There was something magical about Jerry. I've seen them with and without him and there is no magic anymore. The guy from Govt Mule did a good job but not the same.
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Didn't want this to die yet
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