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If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?

 
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biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
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One day, people are gonna realise the depths of the scam they have been sold and they bought into without ever thinking or realising it. I did.

People confuse morality with all the other fantastic and even outright incredible stuff in religions that they take everything in and end up being very bipolar and unstable. They end up falling for the agenda the religions set out to accomplish in the first place without ever realising it.

You know, had jesus given a specific choice of nature when asked to choose between Caesar and......,this cancer would not have grown this big. People would simply give the middle finger to the system and live close to their hearts and community. Instead, everyone is supporting the growth of the system by their shear participation in it....Thats all the system requires - your participation. They translate "giving unto Caesar what belongs to him and god what belongs to god" as meaning fulfilling both ends of the spectrum, so they play both roles effectively.

I say let Caesar take a hike and jesus should have made that explicitly clear when asked.

Now that the system is and the controllers intend to usher in a New Currency, followers are expecting this as a sign of jesus return....for him to come save them from the system he allowed to thrive around them.

But how can this be when he encouraged the system to grow in the first place? What are the chances that he wont have a remake of this drama wherever he is taking his follwoers to, if he comes? He should have known where this all ended in the first place and shouldn't have tolerated it. Unless of course the writers of the book added this part to foster their agenda of world domination which raises another question of what you should and shouldn't trust in the book. They have suckered the world in and now is the time for the kill shot. Worst part is that jesus encouraged or at the very least alluded to encouraging this suckering in.

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International banking ran by Rome's masonic knights is a huge rip off and scam enslaving the world.
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Well, why aren't ALL the nations listed.

I didn't see Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria.

Are they NOT listed because they won't provide any information OR are they the countries that all of this money is owed to for the oil we use to run our vehicles and heat our homes?
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They are not listed because they do not have red hand banks.
Which is one of the reasons those pesky countries need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Well, how can you trust them when they SAY they need help?

For our nation to be so deeply in debt and still be offering assistance to other nations is beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone with even a smidgen of common sense knows that you ALWAYS take care of your own first.

Even Jesus said in Matthew

He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.”
(Matthew 15:24-26 ESV)
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they are takin care of their own,its just not us.
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The bankers/ Rothschildes
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No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
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Well, why aren't ALL the nations listed.

I didn't see Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria.

Are they NOT listed because they won't provide any information OR are they the countries that all of this money is owed to for the oil we use to run our vehicles and heat our homes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2849260


They are not listed because they do not have red hand banks.
Which is one of the reasons those pesky countries need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Well, how can you trust them when they SAY they need help?

For our nation to be so deeply in debt and still be offering assistance to other nations is beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone with even a smidgen of common sense knows that you ALWAYS take care of your own first.

Even Jesus said in Matthew

He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.”
(Matthew 15:24-26 ESV)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2849260


they are takin care of their own,its just not us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29601355


Taking care of their own? I think not! More like preying on the sympathies of others.

In April, details of a $1.3 billion foreign aid package to Egypt were released, reported by the NY Times.

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]

And that's only ONE example.

Like Jesus said, take care of your own FIRST.

When the people in this country have jobs and homes, then perhaps this nation could think about offering assistance to others. Until then, the answer should be sorry to hear about your problems, but we have problems of our own to deal with.

They got themselves into their 'problems' Let them get themselves out!!

I don't see any of them bending over backwards to provide food, clothing, or housing for any of our unemployed.
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International banking ran by Rome's masonic knights is a huge rip off and scam enslaving the world.
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This.
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Puppets are loving it!

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The bankers/ Rothschildes
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No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
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Mayer Amschel Rothschild was born 23 February 1744. His sign was Pegasus, he started 200 years long Pegasus micro-era which has ended by the end of WWII(1945).
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Who is the lender, where is the paperwork, where is the collateral, WHO are the two people who signed for each "loan" contract?

You can't have a legal binding contract without that information. Most of the debt being pushed on citizens od the world is imaginary and therefore no one is under any obligation to honor those contracts.

All those debts are void.
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int banking cartel...

look into the fed reserve...top shareholders....go from there.
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Abandon money.
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biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
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You want to know what the Bible says about debt?

“And if you faithfully obey the voice of the LORD your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.
(Deuteronomy 28:1 ESV)

The LORD will open to you his good treasury, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season and to bless all the work of your hands. And you shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow.
(Deuteronomy 28:12 ESV)


I guess we should've elected Romney. At least he's not ashamed to mention God in public like our dear Obama.

“But if you will not obey the voice of the LORD your God or be careful to do all his commandments and his statutes that I command you today, then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you.
(Deuteronomy 28:15 ESV)

The sojourner who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. He shall lend to you, and you shall not lend to him. He shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.
“All these curses shall come upon you and pursue you and overtake you till you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the LORD your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes that he commanded you.
(Deuteronomy 28:43-45 ESV)


There was a time when this country was great, but back then people coined phrases like 'In God we trust' and had the 10 commandments posted in public places.

I guess this nation is now enjoying the curses of the Almighty. ENJOY all you politically correct atheists!
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Please notice that all the biblical quotes cited here are from the Old Testament. Even Romney wasn't part of the group being addressed.
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The bankers/ Rothschildes
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No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
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This is false.

Anyone with half a brain and the willingness to actually look at who runs and owns most large banks will understand that J-ews have almost a total monopoly on money.
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Lololol
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The bankers/ Rothschildes
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No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492246


This is false.

Anyone with half a brain and the willingness to actually look at who runs and owns most large banks will understand that J-ews have almost a total monopoly on money.
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Money is the financial instrument, so they have a monopoly on a financial instrument, they are a financial tool. However, the one who uses this tool is being another organization.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
The bankers/ Rothschildes
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No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
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This is false.

Anyone with half a brain and the willingness to actually look at who runs and owns most large banks will understand that J-ews have almost a total monopoly on money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27418740



Money is the financial instrument, so they have a monopoly on a financial instrument, they are a financial tool. However, the one who uses this tool is being another organization.
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No it isn't.

Vatican doesn't control shit, J-ews do.

J-ews own most the banks.

J-ews own most of the western governments.

J-ews own most of the world media.

And even though J-ews own and control it all, you want people to believe that J-ews would answer to the Vatican, when the Vatican is trivial and mostly powerless.

Umm, yeah, that's stupid and makes no sense.
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Awesome Brother! Good to see the Disney movies put to their proper use ...! Peace to you and keep shining bright! hfyodabanana2
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Noone is the lender, they create money out of thin air. Its all just a game to them. Money is created from debt. Thus they need to create debts to actually make the money 'viable'.
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Five Stars! *****
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ah .. the admiralty
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Why do governments borrow money. They are our employees and we bring in X$ to be spent for our benefit. But no the fucktards borrow money from the FR to make more government and get us further in debt (enslave us). How is it that some assholes print paper and sell it to us? This is a fucked up system.
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Vatican doesn't control shit, J-ews do.

J-ews own most the banks.

J-ews own most of the western governments.

J-ews own most of the world media.

And even though J-ews own and control it all, you want people to believe that J-ews would answer to the Vatican, when the Vatican is trivial and mostly powerless.
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Really? Tell us about Freemasonry?
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this is just external debt!

first sentence in the link you posted:

"For Net international debt by country (external debt owing to other countries minus external debt of other countries held), see Net international investment position."

link to list of Net international investment position:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This list tells you who is in trouble.
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
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Now the preacher man’s yellin’ that Book of Revelation
And Uncle Sam’s sellin’ us a one-world nation
Banks hedgin’ bets for the next generation
And all while buildin’ us a big space station


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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
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I thought they were the ones earmarked for slave labour. (The ones that live, that is.)
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If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Discuss
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America is the complete OPPOSITE of what many have fought and died for, what our founding fathers intended to set up has been completely destroyed and many seem to have no clue about it.
sheeplebah

If our founding fathers knew we're still celebrating July 4th.. they would roll over in their graves!

While many just look to get drunk, eat hotdogs and light up fireworks with no clue as to what they're celebrating I believe it's important to remember the TRUTH of our history.
To know that there actually was once integrity and honor within the foundation of the hearts and souls of many.
That it's never too late for us to always seek answers, appreciate truth and hold integrity for ourselves.

To bring clearly and remembrance I will post some quotes of our America history.
So what was the primary reason for the Revolutionary War which lead to our Independence to where we're "celebrating" today?

Here is the answer,
Benjamin Franklin:
“The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the prime reason for the Revolutionary War.”

Well what were they intending to set up?
Benjamin Franklin:
"In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Script. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers.
In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one.”

The roots of America was intended to be TAX FREE, where our own country had the ability to create it's own money supply.
Where we controlled our economy, NOT CENTRAL BANKS.
Again the prime reason for the Revolutionary War was the inability of us to create our own money supply as said by Benjamin Franklin.
What about other founding fathers.. what else were their intentions and values?

Thomas Jefferson:
“I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution – taking from the federal government their power of borrowing.”

Thomas Jefferson:
"If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks, and corporations that grow up around them, will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set the government at defiance.
THE ISSUING POWER SHOULD BE TAKEN FROM THE BANKS AND RESTORED TO THE GOVERNMENT TO WHOM IT PROPERLY BELONGS."

Andrew Jackson:
"The bold efforts that the present bank has made to CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT and the distress it has wantonly caused, are but premonitions of the fate which awaits the American people should they be deluded into a per-petuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it...If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system there would be a revolution before morning."

There you have it, some of our founding fathers and their stance on money and banking.. mostly importantly WARNINGS to the American people.
America is now ruled by bankers, we have income tax and America is in debt to the trillions of dollars and the economy is stir

It's obvious what we were always up against,
London Times in 1865…:
“If this mischievous financial policy [of creating a debt-free currency], which has its origin in the American Republic, shall become permanent, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”

Woodrow Wilson, President who signed in the Federal Reserve:
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Henry Ford:
"It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

In the early 30s America went bankrupt, here is a powerful quote from Louis Thomas McFadden.. a Member of the U.S. House of Representatives whom was shortly killed there after:
"Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board has cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.
Some people think the Federal Reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime."




There might be a whole lot of sheep but research is the key to break out of the illusion of lies we're faced with everyday!
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You are 100% WRONG!

The "founding fathers" were DEIST Luciferians (some Freemasons, some Illuminati) who set this all up. They are having a party in their graves right now!! Everything has gone according to plan.

You can post a wall of quotes all day long! They're just WORDS coming from LIARS!!!

Forget WORDS! WHO were those men? WHERE did they go, and WHAT did they do?

Until you can answer those questions, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. All you're doing is regurgitating propaganda.
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Vatican doesn't control shit, J-ews do.

J-ews own most the banks.

J-ews own most of the western governments.

J-ews own most of the world media.

And even though J-ews own and control it all, you want people to believe that J-ews would answer to the Vatican, when the Vatican is trivial and mostly powerless.
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Really? Tell us about Freemasonry?
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Freemasonry is Jewish, you dumbass.

Besides, it's merely a TOOL. Freemasons are NOT at the top of the pyramid.

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