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If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?

 
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The bankers/ Rothschildes
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No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
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That's bullshit. You need to do more research.

The J's CONTROL the Vatican.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
The bankers/ Rothschildes
 Quoting: NightWisp


No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492246




That's bullshit. You need to do more research.

The J's CONTROL the Vatican.
 Quoting: Hahahahah 28872856


Vatican doesn't control shit, J-ews do.

J-ews own most the banks.

J-ews own most of the western governments.

J-ews own most of the world media.

And even though J-ews own and control it all, you want people to believe that J-ews would answer to the Vatican, when the Vatican is trivial and mostly powerless.
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Really? Tell us about Freemasonry?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610875




Freemasonry is Jewish, you dumbass.

Besides, it's merely a TOOL. Freemasons are NOT at the top of the pyramid.
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Any time any institution is found running the world you will always say no the Jews run that institution. Facts do not support your claims.

Even if Jews did run the Vatican (which they do not) it is still Rome's NWO empire.

Freemasonry was founded by the Knights Templar & Jesuits who wrote the degrees. The Rothschilds and many others with no Jewish heritage, such as Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Ford, Bush ect ect, are all members.

As Templar Knights they answer to the pope in Rome!
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
The bankers/ Rothschildes
 Quoting: NightWisp


No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492246




That's bullshit. You need to do more research.

The J's CONTROL the Vatican.
 Quoting: Hahahahah 28872856


Vatican doesn't control shit, J-ews do.

J-ews own most the banks.

J-ews own most of the western governments.

J-ews own most of the world media.

And even though J-ews own and control it all, you want people to believe that J-ews would answer to the Vatican, when the Vatican is trivial and mostly powerless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27418740



Really? Tell us about Freemasonry?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610875




Freemasonry is Jewish, you dumbass.

Besides, it's merely a TOOL. Freemasons are NOT at the top of the pyramid.
 Quoting: Hahahahaa 28872856



Any time any institution is found running the world you will always say no the Jews run that institution. Facts do not support your claims.

Even if Jews did run the Vatican (which they do not) it is still Rome's NWO empire.

Freemasonry was founded by the Knights Templar & Jesuits who wrote the degrees. The Rothschilds and many others with no Jewish heritage, such as Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Ford, Bush ect ect, are all members.

As Templar Knights they answer to the pope in Rome!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610875



This should be pinned for education.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
Noone is the lender, they create money out of thin air. Its all just a game to them. Money is created from debt. Thus they need to create debts to actually make the money 'viable'.
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i'm pretty sure no one, is just two words, otherwise it's a misspelling of noon
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
Good points have been made already on page one of this thread, and good questions have been asked.

However, if you want to see some real "outside the box" questions and suggestions toward solutions you must read this thread FROM PAGE ONE TO THE LAST PAGE

Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments


Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 47)
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
The bankers/ Rothschildes
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+1

This proves the money belongs to private banks and not to national economies.

Money is private property in other words.
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I would change the question. Since every single person in this world is working and since the real "gold" is the hard-work, how come all of the ones that actually work be either poor or of the middle class? How some idiots end up collecting wealth that they would not be able to spend even in 100 lifetimes (and don't tell me that they collect for their descendants since most of them have none or one or two, at most, kids)? Your and mine and everyone's hard work is the real "gold", people! It's not the fake money or some pieces of metal. That's what they are trying to control with their FIAT currencies...
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External debt (or foreign debt) is that part of the total debt in a country that is owed to creditors outside the country. The debtors can be the government, corporations or private households. The debt includes money owed to private commercial banks, other governments, or international financial institutions such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I want to know how its possible for us to borrow money constantly to keep going but are sending billions overseas to bail other countries out and we're going to heck in a handbasket??? Then, whenever there's a hot spot in the World, we ship our troops overseas to go to the rescue which puts them at risk and again spends billions activating troops to protect other countries and they don't pay us for that service, we just do it. The end result, more debt, more borrowing, more taxes. That's why we don't get any respect in the world anymore, we're just plain dumb. I love America with all my heart but I don't recognize her anymore. Slippery slope no end in sight. Totally not what our forefathers intended. All the chickens have come to roost in the US they often spoke warningly to us about.
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Watch and learn folks. Most, if not all, of his videos have been blocked by F...ing G...gle.


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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
I would change the question. Since every single person in this world is working and since the real "gold" is the hard-work, how come all of the ones that actually work be either poor or of the middle class? How some idiots end up collecting wealth that they would not be able to spend even in 100 lifetimes (and don't tell me that they collect for their descendants since most of them have none or one or two, at most, kids)? Your and mine and everyone's hard work is the real "gold", people! It's not the fake money or some pieces of metal. That's what they are trying to control with their FIAT currencies...
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Abandon money - and we're good to go.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
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Do you read? How could they possibly be the lenders?
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How about we have a RUN on the banks and start getting whats left of our money out of the system as much as we can,Will that bring the banks to their knees? anybody know anything about such things?
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
To end the American Revolution, King George III (as he authorized the United States to exist in the Treaty of Paris in 1783) retained Title over the Holy Roman Empire and the United States of America as "Arch-Treasurer" and "Prince Elector." Yes, the Holy Roman Empire is explicitly mentioned as the Treaty's authority to allow the U.S. to exist. This is consistent with the Biblical Beast powers. THE UNITED STATES REMAINS WITHIN THE ROMAN EMPIRE.
The Secretary of the Treasury issues Social Security Cards. The Secretary of the Treasury is not an Officer of the U.S. Government. He is the Arch-Treasurer of the Holy Roman Empire, just like the Treaty says. I have tried six ways to order a copy of his Oath of Office, but it doesn't seem to exist. Congressmen couldn't find it for me either. The National Archives couldn't get me a copy of Alexander Hamilton's Oath of Office, nor did they find it in their index.
The U.S. went Bankrupt on March 4, 1933.
On March 9, 1933, domestic transactions were removed from the exclusions to the 1917 Trading with the Enemy Act (40 Stat L. 411, Subdivision "b" of Section 5). "Trading with the Enemy" is always illegal. Prior to March 9, 1933 domestic transactions were always legal. After March 9, 1933 all domestic transactions are illegal. We are the enemy of the Roman occupation forces. Again: trading with the enemy is always illegal, but now our domestic trading is with the enemy of our foreign masters. Domestic transactions can now be regulated and punished. I repeat: domestic transactions are illegal. NO MAN MIGHT BUY OR SELL. It is illegal to buy or sell in America unless your transactions are with a surrendered person. Guess who has surrendered.
The multinational authority that is already pre-authorized by the U.S. Congress to control your buying and selling with "actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken ..." is the very same multinational authority that issues Social Security Cards. Title 12 United States Code, Section 95(b) gives the Secretary of the Treasury complete power over us. Whatever drastic actions he wants to take to control us are already authorized by law. His actions "heretofore or hereafter taken" have already been pre-approved by Congress in 1933. (This all fits nicely with Rev 13:10 "if anyone is to go into captivity ...")
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
This is the only thing that will create real doom.
Billions of angry people when this system breakdown.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29244629


You want to know what the Bible says about debt?

“And if you faithfully obey the voice of the LORD your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.
(Deuteronomy 28:1 ESV)

The LORD will open to you his good treasury, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season and to bless all the work of your hands. And you shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow.
(Deuteronomy 28:12 ESV)


I guess we should've elected Romney. At least he's not ashamed to mention God in public like our dear Obama.

“But if you will not obey the voice of the LORD your God or be careful to do all his commandments and his statutes that I command you today, then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you.
(Deuteronomy 28:15 ESV)

The sojourner who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. He shall lend to you, and you shall not lend to him. He shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.
“All these curses shall come upon you and pursue you and overtake you till you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the LORD your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes that he commanded you.
(Deuteronomy 28:43-45 ESV)


There was a time when this country was great, but back then people coined phrases like 'In God we trust' and had the 10 commandments posted in public places.

I guess this nation is now enjoying the curses of the Almighty. ENJOY all you politically correct atheists!
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Please notice that all the biblical quotes cited here are from the Old Testament. Even Romney wasn't part of the group being addressed.
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what old testament? there's nothing new under the sun, so that is the first testament and then the second testament.he who hath understanding count the number of the beast.the bible is even a beast as our flesh is also,666 carbon atom/Adam all creations are beasts our spirit within this flesh must subdue.we overcome the world as the codebook says by the golden rule and remembering we created the bible and the concepts in it,instead of the concepts creating us.all created things are beasts and the spirit we all share is not a beast,our spirit is supposed to rule our flesh/beast.we all got the mark of the beast,its flesh our spirit dwells in.peace
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
numbers on paper turning into faux money.
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How about we have a RUN on the banks and start getting whats left of our money out of the system as much as we can,Will that bring the banks to their knees? anybody know anything about such things?
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Thread: ABANDON MONEY
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
> guess we should've elected Romney. At least he's not ashamed to mention God in public like our dear Obama.

As much as I hate Obama, I did not vote for Romney (or Obama). I voted for myself since the 3rd party choice was just as bad as the other two.

Here is what Romney actually did.

TQO#213 Give them credit for the biggest deception during the Presidential debates

[link to www.obamasucks.tv]

TQO#209 – About the 3rd debate – Obama's smirking – Romney's stammering - Storm Sandy

[link to www.obamasucks.tv]

> The sojourner who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower.

Actually, that is a mis-translation. It should be "stranger", as it is in a KJV. Reason being is it is meant to mean a non-Israelite.

The reason that it matters is Israel never had the ability to "lend" onto many nations. The USA was founded by the ten (Judah/Jewish bloodline of Jesus is actually Queen Elizabeth from Hez. 3 daughers) tribes of Israel.

The "stranger" (non rubby complexion) within us were the Chinese as even the blacks were distant blood relatives through Ham, sold into slavery by the KENites (you know them as Kenya - in spoken Hebrew it means Cain (ken) our God (jah).

The race that built the railroads, the Chinese, that we pay almost 1/2 of our short term notes to, has become the head and we the tail, while they buy up the USA, just as God promised for violating his law and word!

We killed the gold standard in Aug 1971 so Nixon could borrow money from other nations to fund the Vietnam war. What did Congress do 40 years later, the probation period was over, they did the sequestration for Dec 2012, which just happens to fall in the same month as the Mayan Calendar mumbo-jumbo.

Expect great deception as Satan collects his debt marker.

Tscaredhough personally I think the USA will collapse after the 40th year of Roe vs. Wade Jan 2013 right after Obama is sworn in.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
The bankers/ Rothschildes
 Quoting: NightWisp


No, they are the tool. Vatican is the answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492246




That's bullshit. You need to do more research.

The J's CONTROL the Vatican.
 Quoting: Hahahahah 28872856


Vatican doesn't control shit, J-ews do.

J-ews own most the banks.

J-ews own most of the western governments.

J-ews own most of the world media.

And even though J-ews own and control it all, you want people to believe that J-ews would answer to the Vatican, when the Vatican is trivial and mostly powerless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27418740



Really? Tell us about Freemasonry?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610875




Freemasonry is Jewish, you dumbass.

Besides, it's merely a TOOL. Freemasons are NOT at the top of the pyramid.
 Quoting: Hahahahaa 28872856



Any time any institution is found running the world you will always say no the Jews run that institution. Facts do not support your claims.

Even if Jews did run the Vatican (which they do not) it is still Rome's NWO empire.

Freemasonry was founded by the Knights Templar & Jesuits who wrote the degrees. The Rothschilds and many others with no Jewish heritage, such as Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Ford, Bush ect ect, are all members.

As Templar Knights they answer to the pope in Rome!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610875


How much do you morons get for parading this bullshit?

Most institutions that have a lot of influence are typically Jewish.

The Vatican isn't even relevant, it doesn't matter who runs it.

All the founders you the Jesuit order were Jewish retard.Ignatius Loyola, the founder was most certainly a Jew.

Now you are trying to claim the Rothschild's are not Jewish, ridiculous. They were and still are one of the most prominent Jewish families in history. Morgan as well was a Jewish family.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29244629


Charging interest on loans was illegal under the Catholic Christian Church rule in Europe for 800 years, you commie fuckwit.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
clever question. follow the money trail...
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This thread could be the fastest sinking 5 star thread.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
Well I guess the truth will come out eventually...

Me. You all owe me.

Want to borrow some more????

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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29244629


The ONLY time Jesus got physically angry was with the money changers

Matt 21:12
And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29244629


The ONLY time Jesus got physically angry was with the money changers

Matt 21:12
And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30729623


And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
all nations aren't in debt.
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[link to www.cia.gov (secure)]

[link to www.save-a-patriot.org]
This is who own the debts and collects about 6% interest annually on that total debt. For example $250T is $15,000,000,000 in interest per year and that is an ever increasing number
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
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Bravo my friend. Bravo.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29244629

If you want a good example of what the OT used as banking rules that is the best system as Gentiles were made equal to being a member of the 12 Tribes as far as banking practices. The only update needed to the usury laws is to include them and have the richer people (who make more per year than a Banker)and corporations pay the interest which is very little once it is working as an essential service at zero profit. The ones working there are the only owners, same as it should be for all corporations.

There are onlt 15 OT verses with usury in them so it isn't a huge read and you get the concept as soon as you read them, that is why they are never brought up.
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
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Those are the ones who inherit an ever-increasing dept load.

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