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If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?

 
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biggest scam in human history.
bar none.

and if may add...


wheres the christians? and other religitards?

huh?

never see them quoting the Bible on debt threads do ya'?
like holy water on a vampire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29244629


...yada yada..."be the lender not the borrower"... yada yada...
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If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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 Quoting: Hellenist 15444013


Good question.

Most obvious answer is: the bondholders.

Some of these will be other governments (China) and some will be private parties and corporations.

I'd like to see an accounting of this, if it's available.
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If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
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 Quoting: Hellenist 15444013


Amen Jubilee...amen op
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If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
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 Quoting: Hellenist 15444013


Amen Jubilee...amen op
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3560831


Isn't happening.

Italy recently sold some of their palaces and castles to pay some of their national debt. Greece is considering selling some of their islands in the Adriatic.

And a columnist in the Washington Post proposed the USA sell Alaska to China to pay that debt.

The debt was "no big deal" while it was being run up. Now the damned creditors are being deadly serious about collecting.
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
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Those are the ones who inherit an ever-increasing dept load.
 Quoting: MHz


That's true, there is a saying:

Parents sins affect children
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Some ask "how do we lend money to others while we have money problems too"

Well, even if we never borrow "money" from anyone, still these "money" are not for you. You have to realise this, these money are extra "air money" they have to lend and make big profit. If they would spend them on you people they wouldnt be able to get back as much as they do now, even with the biggest taxation.
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15809483

Those are the ones who inherit an ever-increasing dept load.
 Quoting: MHz


That's true, there is a saying:

Parents sins affect children
 Quoting: Ostria1


Absolutely. People nowadays are borrowing prosperity from the future to keep the ponzi scheme going, and we're not even spending it on infrastructure, science, education, or something of value. The inheritance of our children and grandchildren is being spent on McMansions, Playstations, Ipads, impossible to win land wars in Asia, handouts for high fructose corn syrup and MSG loaded "foods", bailouts of billion dollar corporations and banks, and other non-productive uses of resources that don't grow the real economy at all. These things do fill the pockets of TPTB, though. Our children and grandchildren will hate us, and who could blame them? They are the lenders, their quality of life will suffer accordingly, and they will never get paid back. I hope they pay backtheir fat, ignorant, cowardly parents in kind by making them work until they die with no Social Security or Medicare.
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15809483

Those are the ones who inherit an ever-increasing dept load.
 Quoting: MHz


That's true, there is a saying:

Parents sins affect children
 Quoting: Ostria1


Absolutely. People nowadays are borrowing prosperity from the future to keep the ponzi scheme going, and we're not even spending it on infrastructure, science, education, or something of value. The inheritance of our children and grandchildren is being spent on McMansions, Playstations, Ipads, impossible to win land wars in Asia, handouts for high fructose corn syrup and MSG loaded "foods", bailouts of billion dollar corporations and banks, and other non-productive uses of resources that don't grow the real economy at all. These things do fill the pockets of TPTB, though. Our children and grandchildren will hate us, and who could blame them? They are the lenders, their quality of life will suffer accordingly, and they will never get paid back. I hope they pay backtheir fat, ignorant, cowardly parents in kind by making them work until they die with no Social Security or Medicare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29956779


Oh you're right. And not only this, we do pass them a decreased envirenment, bad food/water, bad working conditions... in fact we act like there is no tomorrow.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
Syrian debt: 13% of GDP, $373 per capita
Iranian debt: 4% of GDP, $170 per capita

I find these numbers highly concerning and unacceptable, clearly they need to be stopped. anon
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Syrian debt: 13% of GDP, $373 per capita
Iranian debt: 4% of GDP, $170 per capita

I find these numbers highly concerning and unacceptable, clearly they need to be stopped. anon
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i think they are out of the system, arent they?
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Syrian debt: 13% of GDP, $373 per capita
Iranian debt: 4% of GDP, $170 per capita

I find these numbers highly concerning and unacceptable, clearly they need to be stopped. anon
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i think they are out of the system, arent they?
 Quoting: Ostria1


Yep, no Rothy bank there.
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The answer is simple, our children and grandchildren.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15809483

Those are the ones who inherit an ever-increasing dept load.
 Quoting: MHz


That's true, there is a saying:

Parents sins affect children
 Quoting: Ostria1


Absolutely. People nowadays are borrowing prosperity from the future to keep the ponzi scheme going, and we're not even spending it on infrastructure, science, education, or something of value. The inheritance of our children and grandchildren is being spent on McMansions, Playstations, Ipads, impossible to win land wars in Asia, handouts for high fructose corn syrup and MSG loaded "foods", bailouts of billion dollar corporations and banks, and other non-productive uses of resources that don't grow the real economy at all. These things do fill the pockets of TPTB, though. Our children and grandchildren will hate us, and who could blame them? They are the lenders, their quality of life will suffer accordingly, and they will never get paid back. I hope they pay backtheir fat, ignorant, cowardly parents in kind by making them work until they die with no Social Security or Medicare.
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applause
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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 Quoting: Hellenist 15444013


more important, where is all of that money. 16 trillion for the USA alone... Where is it??
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The Quote of the Decade:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
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NOOB QUESTION!!!

International non gov banks are the lenders. You're a noob OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21160675


That does not answer where the money comes from,your the noob.
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The bankers/ Rothschildes
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They've enslaved the world though fictitious debt. and yet. Nobody is looking for a rope.
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Re: If all nations are in Debt, who is the lender?
Well, why aren't ALL the nations listed.

I didn't see Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria.

Are they NOT listed because they won't provide any information OR are they the countries that all of this money is owed to for the oil we use to run our vehicles and heat our homes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2849260


They are not listed because they do not have red hand banks.
Which is one of the reasons those pesky countries need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Well, how can you trust them when they SAY they need help?

For our nation to be so deeply in debt and still be offering assistance to other nations is beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone with even a smidgen of common sense knows that you ALWAYS take care of your own first.

Even Jesus said in Matthew

He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.”
(Matthew 15:24-26 ESV)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2849260


The rest of the world is your own becuase you have quotas to let them all in forever.

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