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Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2012 10:29 PM
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I'm asking a serious question to all christians.

Do you have the understanding that the Catholic Church is the root base for all modern forms of Christanity?

And, if knowing this, do you just turn a blind eye to the truth of it to make yourself feel comfortable with a very uncomfortable realization.

Please don't punk the question.
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12/10/2012 10:31 PM
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Blah blah region blah de blah punky funky monkey.
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Blah blah region blah de blah punky funky monkey.
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Sorry God I meant Religion.
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12/10/2012 10:54 PM
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Nazarenes were the first Christians who the apostles belonged. They used the books we have in the modern Bible that becomes the Word of God that we may know him and reprove all false doctrine from Rome.
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12/10/2012 11:01 PM
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Nazarenes were the first Christians who the apostles belonged. They used the books we have in the modern Bible that becomes the Word of God that we may know him and reprove all false doctrine from Rome.
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Thanks for the reply. Can you provide where you found that?

This is an example of many I have found thru the years.

The earliest list of New Testament books of which we have definite knowledge was drawn up at Rome by the heretic Marcion about 140. Marcion distinguished the inferior Creator-God of the Old Testament from the God and Father revealed in Christ, and believed that the Church ought to jettison all that appertained to the former. This 'theological anti-semitism' involved the rejecting not only of the entire Old Testament but also of those parts of the New Testament which seemed to him to be infected with Judaism. So Marcion's canon consisted of two parts: (a) an expurgated edition of the third Gospel, which is the least Jewish of the Gospels, being written by the Gentile Luke; and (b) ten of the Pauline Epistles (the three 'Pastoral Epistles' being omitted). Marcion's list, however, does not represent the current verdict of the Church but a deliberate aberration from it.

Another early list, also of Roman provenance, dated about the end of the second century, is that commonly called the 'Muratorian Fragment,' because it was first published in Italy in 1740 by the antiquarian Cardinal L. A. Muratori. It is unfortunately mutilated at the beginning, but it evidently mentioned Matthew and Mark, because it refers to Luke as the third Gospel; then it mentions John, Acts, 'Paul's nine letters to churches and four to individuals (Philemon, Titus, 1 and 2 Timothy), Jude, two Epistles of John, and the Apocalypse of John and that of Peter.' The Shepherd of Hermas is mentioned as worthy to be read (i.e. in church) but not to be included in the number of prophetic or apostolic writings.
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12/10/2012 11:21 PM
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Come on folks, provide some input.
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Surely you are just sharing what you have been taught. Keep going you will discover much deeper roots. Good for you on the effort to grow and understand on deeper levels.
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Nazarenes were the first Christians who the apostles belonged. They used the books we have in the modern Bible that becomes the Word of God that we may know him and reprove all false doctrine from Rome.
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Thanks for the reply. Can you provide where you found that?

This is an example of many I have found thru the years.

The earliest list of New Testament books of which we have definite knowledge was drawn up at Rome by the heretic Marcion about 140. Marcion distinguished the inferior Creator-God of the Old Testament from the God and Father revealed in Christ, and believed that the Church ought to jettison all that appertained to the former. This 'theological anti-semitism' involved the rejecting not only of the entire Old Testament but also of those parts of the New Testament which seemed to him to be infected with Judaism. So Marcion's canon consisted of two parts: (a) an expurgated edition of the third Gospel, which is the least Jewish of the Gospels, being written by the Gentile Luke; and (b) ten of the Pauline Epistles (the three 'Pastoral Epistles' being omitted). Marcion's list, however, does not represent the current verdict of the Church but a deliberate aberration from it.

Another early list, also of Roman provenance, dated about the end of the second century, is that commonly called the 'Muratorian Fragment,' because it was first published in Italy in 1740 by the antiquarian Cardinal L. A. Muratori. It is unfortunately mutilated at the beginning, but it evidently mentioned Matthew and Mark, because it refers to Luke as the third Gospel; then it mentions John, Acts, 'Paul's nine letters to churches and four to individuals (Philemon, Titus, 1 and 2 Timothy), Jude, two Epistles of John, and the Apocalypse of John and that of Peter.' The Shepherd of Hermas is mentioned as worthy to be read (i.e. in church) but not to be included in the number of prophetic or apostolic writings.
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Who wrote the NT books and when?

[link to carm.org]

[link to www.datingthenewtestament.com]




"The Nazarene sect used in the Book of Acts clearly referred to both Jewish and Gentile followers of Jesus' Apostles ... they accepted the virgin birth of Jesus.

The Nazarenes were originally Jewish converts of the Apostles who fled Jerusalem because of Jesus' warning of its coming siege."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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