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Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 09:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. bump "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 10:10 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. [[crickets]] "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 10:16 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 10:18 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. the images in this vid are important for this topic. gets real interesting 2 mins in or so "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21195758 12/11/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. Thank you, I think it is quit'n time soon. People need to realize God is not mad ate them, He loves us and modern Christianity has mad a set of salvation rules they them selves cannot follow. Christians, Love is what Jesus brought because He knows Love is the greatest need a human being has. Please Love One Another. |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 10:32 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. Thank you, I think it is quit'n time soon. People need to realize God is not mad ate them, He loves us and modern Christianity has mad a set of salvation rules they them selves cannot follow. Christians, Love is what Jesus brought because He knows Love is the greatest need a human being has. Please Love One Another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21195758 amen to that "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 10:56 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. This is copyrighted information presented under the Fair Use Doctrine of the United States Copyright Act (section 107 of title 17) which states: 'the fair use of a copyrighted work...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.' In practice the courts have decided that anything which does not financially harm the copyright holder is fair use. words in brackets are from the author in the link provided in OP: [link to www.askelm.com] The following quote (abridged) is from Eusebius’ "Letter to Constantia" (the sister of Constantine the Great). It shows the utter disdain of Eusebius (the first historian of the Christian church) for the trend toward idolatry that was beginning to occur in "orthodox" churches. He expressed complete outrage that any one would lapse into such depravity. All words in brackets are mine and the italics and bold letters are my emphases. "You also wrote me about some supposed image of Christ, which image you wished me to send to you. Now what kind of thing is that you refer to as the image of Christ? I do not know what compelled you to request that an image of Our Savior should be shown. What kind of image of Christ are you seeking? Is it the true and unadulterated one which bears His essential characteristics [His divine image], or the one which He assumed for our sake when He took up the form of a servant [His human form]? ... Granted, He has two forms, and even I do not think that your petition has to do with His divine form. ... Surely then, you are seeking His image as a servant, that of the flesh which He assumed for our sake. ... How can one paint an image so unattainable and wonderful ... unless, as so the unbelieving pagans, one is to represent things that have no possible resemblance to anything ... ? For they [the pagans] make such idols when they wish to form the likeness of what they think to be a god or, as they might say, one of the heroes or anything else of like nature, yet they are unable even to approach a likeness, and accurately represent some strange human forms. Surely, even you will agree with me that such practices are illegal for us. [Eusebius believed, accurately so, that even a true likeness of Jesus ― if one were available ― was still not allowed to be displayed by biblical teaching.] Have you ever heard of such a resemblance yourself in church or from another person? Are not such things excluded and banished from churches all over the world, and does not everyone know that such practices are not permitted to us alone? "Once there was a woman, I do not know how, brought me in her hands a picture of two men in the demeanor of philosophers [with their hair long ― see Dio Chrysostom, “Oration Thirty-Five,” vol.III, pp.393, 401] and the woman mentioned that they were Paul and the Savior. I have no way of knowing where she got this information or where she learned it. But in order that neither she nor others might receive offense, I took the picture away from her and kept it in my house, as I thought it was improper for such things to be displayed to others, lest we appear, like idol worshipers, to carry our God around in an image. I note that Paul informs all of us not to hold any more to things of the flesh; because he tells us that though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet from now on we know Him no more." Last Edited by Salt on 12/11/2012 10:56 AM "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 10:59 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. This is copyrighted information presented under the Fair Use Doctrine of the United States Copyright Act (section 107 of title 17) which states: 'the fair use of a copyrighted work...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.' In practice the courts have decided that anything which does not financially harm the copyright holder is fair use. The following is a quote from Epiphanius (bracketed words and emphases belong to the author). "Which of the ancient Fathers ever painted an image of Christ and put it in a church or a private home? [None of them ever did such a thing.] Which ancient bishop ever dishonored Christ by depicting Him on door curtains?... "Moreover, they are deceiving who portray the likeness of [biblical] saints in different forms according to their whim, sometimes showing the same individuals as old men, sometimes as young men, intruding into things which they have not seen. For they paint the Savior with long hair, and this by guessing because He is called a Nazarene, and Nazarenes wear long hair. They are in error if they try to attach stereotypes to Him, because the Savior drank wine, whereas the Nazarenes [the Nazarites] did not. "They also show forth deception by concocting things according to their whims. These falsifiers present the holy apostle Peter as an old person with his hair and beard cut short; some portray holy Paul as a man with receding hair, others as bald and bearded, and the other apostles are shown having their hair closely cut off. If then the Savior had long hair while his apostles were cut close, and since by not being cropped, He was unlike them in appearance, for what reason did the Pharisees and scribes give a fee of thirty silver pieces to Judas that he might kiss Him and show them that He was the one they were after, when they might themselves or by means of others have determined on account of His [long] hair Him whom they were seeking to find, and thereby without paying a fee?... "Can you not see, O most God-loving emperor, that this state of things is not in accord to God? [Which trend was then sweeping the Christian world.] Wherefore I beg of you ... that the curtains which may be found that have such false portrayals of the apostles or prophets or of the lord Christ Himself should be collected from churches, baptisteries, houses and martyria [sites where martyrs were buried or honored] and that you should give them over for the burial of the poor, and as [for those] on walls, that they should be whitewashed. As for those that have already been designed in mosaics, realizing that their removal is difficult you know what to command in the wisdom that God has granted you. If it be possible to remove them [mosaics], well and good; but if this is not possible, let that which has already been produced suffice, and let no one paint in this manner from now on." [link to www.askelm.com] Last Edited by Salt on 12/11/2012 11:01 AM "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 11:04 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. this vid is important for the symbols and images that are pagan in nature and have been incorporated into the church and synagogue. gets real interesting about 3 mins in "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 11:12 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. for those who dont get it... pagan/satanic images were brought into the synagogue and also the church. they used symbols (star of david, etc) and pictures of Jesus that looked like Greek mythos gods and other pagan gods, etc. everything we know as religious symbols are actually pagan satanic images that God forbade from the beginning. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 02:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. i guess i'm the only person that finds this interesting lol... "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 12/11/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. Thank you, I think it is quit'n time soon. People need to realize God is not mad ate them, He loves us and modern Christianity has mad a set of salvation rules they them selves cannot follow. Christians, Love is what Jesus brought because He knows Love is the greatest need a human being has. Please Love One Another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21195758 Post of the Year |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/11/2012 03:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. Thank you, I think it is quit'n time soon. People need to realize God is not mad ate them, He loves us and modern Christianity has mad a set of salvation rules they them selves cannot follow. Christians, Love is what Jesus brought because He knows Love is the greatest need a human being has. Please Love One Another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21195758 Post of the Year agreed "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/13/2012 01:02 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. Hey, I just found the thread!! LOL It's no surprise that there are "outliers" that did such things. bump "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/14/2012 02:31 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. bump for a pulse "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 21869103 12/28/2012 03:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. I watched the vid, and found it, well...moderately interesting, but a bit 'far-fetched', like most of these type of vids are. That stuff is definitely 'up my street' though. Also I didn't read much of the OP...too long. In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. And the Word Was God. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/28/2012 09:09 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. I watched the vid, and found it, well...moderately interesting, but a bit 'far-fetched', like most of these type of vids are. That stuff is definitely 'up my street' though. Also I didn't read much of the OP...too long. thanks for your honesty "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/28/2012 09:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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| Sir Phydeau Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost. User ID: 22271457 12/28/2012 10:29 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Space Weather Monitor 1.1: Thread: Space weather gadget I made and am releasing here first. v1.3 released. The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org] Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen. |
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Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/28/2012 10:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. hey! "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Dr. Acula![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 90675 12/28/2012 10:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. Thats lot of reading there Salt! lol bump for later when i can let it soak in! :) Last Edited by Dr. Acula on 12/28/2012 10:42 PM I am a HelpTard, need Help? Ask me! Peace Means Reloading Your Guns! Some of my custom graphics are featured in the Official GLP Store: [link to www.cafepress.com] |
Salt (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/28/2012 10:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. yeah, i know. no way to encapsulate the topic without all of that. sorry for the laborious topic, but it's worth it, trust me. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
Dr. Acula![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 90675 12/28/2012 10:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you. yeah, i know. no way to encapsulate the topic without all of that. sorry for the laborious topic, but it's worth it, trust me. oh no trust me... its nice to see :) my brain is in hypermode right now and i cant concentrate on much of anything at the moment lol in a few hours the wine will have kicked in ;) I am a HelpTard, need Help? Ask me! Peace Means Reloading Your Guns! Some of my custom graphics are featured in the Official GLP Store: [link to www.cafepress.com] |