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The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you.

 
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I love what you're doing, Salt. You're essentially preaching the Gospel of Lord Yeshua in a way that conspiracy folks can better relate to.

I saw that video you posted a while ago, and I know that those images of 'Jesus' - the ones that look like a long-haired hippie are not correct at all.
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^ Nobody should have any images of God AT ALL.

I saw this tv show once where a mormonian family had picture of 'Jesus' on the wall. And I metaphorically slapped my forehead.
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I love what you're doing, Salt. You're essentially preaching the Gospel of Lord Yeshua in a way that conspiracy folks can better relate to.

I saw that video you posted a while ago, and I know that those images of 'Jesus' - the ones that look like a long-haired hippie are not correct at all.
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hf

Christianity is one of the biggest conspiracies alive.

the truth is out there. and it aint nowhere near what you think.

ohyeah
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i'm ex-catholic - and now a hardcore Christian, a follower of Lord Yeshua - and when i try to tell folks who are catholic that it's a disguised mystery babylon they look at me like i need to be institutionalized.
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I love what you're doing, Salt. You're essentially preaching the Gospel of Lord Yeshua in a way that conspiracy folks can better relate to.

I saw that video you posted a while ago, and I know that those images of 'Jesus' - the ones that look like a long-haired hippie are not correct at all.
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^ Nobody should have any images of God AT ALL.

I saw this tv show once where a mormonian family had picture of 'Jesus' on the wall. And I metaphorically slapped my forehead.
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hehe

agreed.

do not form an image, create or engrave an image, paint a drawing, likeness, etc.

not so easy to do after centuries of pagan images being put up as idols infiltrated into the church.

this is more evil than people realize.

now that the images are formed, the symbols are utilized, how does the mind disconnect from them? how does the mind draw a blankness? it's near impossible.
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I love what you're doing, Salt. You're essentially preaching the Gospel of Lord Yeshua in a way that conspiracy folks can better relate to.

I saw that video you posted a while ago, and I know that those images of 'Jesus' - the ones that look like a long-haired hippie are not correct at all.
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anytime you see the long blonde haired and bearded jesus that looks like a white guy with blue eyes, you are looking at an image of Zeus/Sarapin, who is a mythological deity from Greece.
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I love what you're doing, Salt. You're essentially preaching the Gospel of Lord Yeshua in a way that conspiracy folks can better relate to.

I saw that video you posted a while ago, and I know that those images of 'Jesus' - the ones that look like a long-haired hippie are not correct at all.
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anytime you see the long blonde haired and bearded jesus that looks like a white guy with blue eyes, you are looking at an image of Zeus/Sarapin, who is a mythological deity from Greece.
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when i try to tell people that christmas originated from a heinous orgy called saturnalia people again look at me like i'm mental. christmas has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity at all
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I love what you're doing, Salt. You're essentially preaching the Gospel of Lord Yeshua in a way that conspiracy folks can better relate to.

I saw that video you posted a while ago, and I know that those images of 'Jesus' - the ones that look like a long-haired hippie are not correct at all.
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anytime you see the long blonde haired and bearded jesus that looks like a white guy with blue eyes, you are looking at an image of Zeus/Sarapin, who is a mythological deity from Greece.
 Quoting: Salt


when i try to tell people that christmas originated from a heinous orgy called saturnalia people again look at me like i'm mental. christmas has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity at all
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well yes and no.

the tree, the ornaments, the date, the feast, etc etc = pagan

the remembrance and celebration of the birth of Christ = Christian

blending the two = blasphemous
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I love what you're doing, Salt. You're essentially preaching the Gospel of Lord Yeshua in a way that conspiracy folks can better relate to.

I saw that video you posted a while ago, and I know that those images of 'Jesus' - the ones that look like a long-haired hippie are not correct at all.
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anytime you see the long blonde haired and bearded jesus that looks like a white guy with blue eyes, you are looking at an image of Zeus/Sarapin, who is a mythological deity from Greece.
 Quoting: Salt


when i try to tell people that christmas originated from a heinous orgy called saturnalia people again look at me like i'm mental. christmas has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity at all
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well yes and no.

the tree, the ornaments, the date, the feast, etc etc = pagan

the remembrance and celebration of the birth of Christ = Christian

blending the two = blasphemous
 Quoting: Salt


i just figure that you celebrate Christ every day by obeying His Words - to follow His Father's Commandments and to love one another as yourself

every day is a battle for me, and sometimes i fail miserably
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anytime you see the long blonde haired and bearded jesus that looks like a white guy with blue eyes, you are looking at an image of Zeus/Sarapin, who is a mythological deity from Greece.
 Quoting: Salt


when i try to tell people that christmas originated from a heinous orgy called saturnalia people again look at me like i'm mental. christmas has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity at all
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30932679


well yes and no.

the tree, the ornaments, the date, the feast, etc etc = pagan

the remembrance and celebration of the birth of Christ = Christian

blending the two = blasphemous
 Quoting: Salt


i just figure that you celebrate Christ every day by obeying His Words - to follow His Father's Commandments and to love one another as yourself

every day is a battle for me, and sometimes i fail miserably
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agreed. we should. but there's nothing wrong with setting aside a day to recognize and celebrate his birth.

everyday is a battle for everyone.
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when i try to tell people that christmas originated from a heinous orgy called saturnalia people again look at me like i'm mental. christmas has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity at all
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30932679


well yes and no.

the tree, the ornaments, the date, the feast, etc etc = pagan

the remembrance and celebration of the birth of Christ = Christian

blending the two = blasphemous
 Quoting: Salt


i just figure that you celebrate Christ every day by obeying His Words - to follow His Father's Commandments and to love one another as yourself

every day is a battle for me, and sometimes i fail miserably
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30932679


agreed. we should. but there's nothing wrong with setting aside a day to recognize and celebrate his birth.

everyday is a battle for everyone.
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just for you, Salt.. i think you'll really love this..

it's a series by a Christian guy in Scotland who has done a lot of research on the secret history of things.. one of the best series i've seen (and i watch a lot of conspiracy videos)..

[link to www.youtube.com]
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well yes and no.

the tree, the ornaments, the date, the feast, etc etc = pagan

the remembrance and celebration of the birth of Christ = Christian

blending the two = blasphemous
 Quoting: Salt


i just figure that you celebrate Christ every day by obeying His Words - to follow His Father's Commandments and to love one another as yourself

every day is a battle for me, and sometimes i fail miserably
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30932679


agreed. we should. but there's nothing wrong with setting aside a day to recognize and celebrate his birth.

everyday is a battle for everyone.
 Quoting: Salt


just for you, Salt.. i think you'll really love this..

it's a series by a Christian guy in Scotland who has done a lot of research on the secret history of things.. one of the best series i've seen (and i watch a lot of conspiracy videos)..

[link to www.youtube.com]
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wow cool. thanks.
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The real issue with the whole idolatry thing is not just some purists obsession.

It is to do with how entities attach themselves to physical objects.
Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.
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Watched the video, (excellent) and I learned more about Saturn and about the pics of Jesus.

I find that the new agers and the Freemasons (Muslims, Jews as well) are awaiting their messiah aren't they ? What Christians would call the anti-christ? I watch and read what they say about their signs because I know it's closer for the time for the anti -christ to come and "the rapture" of the Christians and or the 7 year tribulation (which I believe we are in already - just started).

Salt, have you ever considered doing a Revelations study on here ?

It would be cool to compare all the seals and verses that have come to pass and what we look for next.
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The real issue with the whole idolatry thing is not just some purists obsession.

It is to do with how entities attach themselves to physical objects.
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For you -

22. They are persons, because the plasmic substance which envelops the spirit of each, hinders the intimate union of that spirit with other spirit.

23. Spirit alone is diffuse, and the naked flame is liable to fuse with other flames.

24. But the flame which is enclosed in substance has become an indiffusible personality.

25. Other entities there are which are visible and tangible to material sense.

26. For the Divine Substance which encloses the spirit of each, coagulates exteriorly and becomes matter in the outermost.

27. So that the entity is composed of spirit, soul, and corporeal appearance.

28. The outermost has become coagulate; its inner content is fluid substance; its innermost is spirit.

29. The innermost is intangible light, which is the first generation; manifest by the Will of God through the Word of God.

30. The fluid medium is the firmament, which the Will of God divided from out of the great deep.

31. And the outermost is the dry earth, which is matter; which the Will of God causeth to appear by the gathering together of the waters, that is of the first protoplasma.

32. As of the greater, so also of the lesser.

33. This is the great secret; it is the mystery of generation
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for those who dont get it...
pagan/satanic images were brought into the synagogue and also the church. they used symbols (star of david, etc) and pictures of Jesus that looked like Greek mythos gods and other pagan gods, etc.


everything we know as religious symbols are actually pagan satanic images that God forbade from the beginning.
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thats very true,that pretty much sums up the whole topic! basically,
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Excellent article Salt!

There is one very large "Christian" denomination that I can think of that uses copious amounts of graven images and adorns their palaces with all kinds of "art"...billions of people, fooled.

I'm going to have to do some heavy reading on that ASK site...never knew it existed before :)

Thanks again and God bless!

hf
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would that be the catholics? most likely
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My belief on these things: God has both revealed His plan to redeem the fallen world from the start, in Genesis 3:15, and all through the Bible God had a selected people to work through and to represent Himself to the world, even though they would stumble and mess up along the way.

Paganism adopted from the people around them was a problem for the Israelites way back in time. It's why God caused the 10 Northern Tribes to be removed from the Land into captivity and scattered (The Ten Lost Tribes).

Jesus warned the Church in the Letters to the Churches of the demonic influences creeping into some of them.

Sure, from the time of Genesis some truth as been known by the many cultures that descended from Adam and Eve. Plus the enemy often seeks to deceive and copy what God does or plans to do, to try to take away from God what belongs to Him alone.

Also, it is written that the heavens declare the glory of God. So, the zodiac does tell the story of Jesus and God's plan of redemption, and of the victory over the serpant.

Look up "The Gospel in the Stars"...I think it's called.
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Also, with the Catholic church...when Constantine 'converted' and forced his version of Christianity on all of Rome, many unbelievers were forced into the church.
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:oldestpicjesushe:
The Healing of the Paralytic – the oldest known image of Jesus, from the Syrian city of Dura Europos, dating from about 235 ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Very nice.

And I picked up a couple of links from people who posted in this thread since my last post...the bryte show, and that youtube guy from Scotland..both of which I plan to look into later.

hf
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The Healing of the Paralytic – the oldest known image of Jesus, from the Syrian city of Dura Europos, dating from about 235 ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Salt


Very nice.

And I picked up a couple of links from people who posted in this thread since my last post...the bryte show, and that youtube guy from Scotland..both of which I plan to look into later.

hf
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hf
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OP, I was wondering if you are familiar with Chuck Missler? I just came across his youtube vids and I've watched maybe half a dozen of the short vids. From what I've seen he seems to be very knowledgeable. Is he reliable, in your opinion (if you know of him)?
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OP, I was wondering if you are familiar with Chuck Missler? I just came across his youtube vids and I've watched maybe half a dozen of the short vids. From what I've seen he seems to be very knowledgeable. Is he reliable, in your opinion (if you know of him)?
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Chuck Missler is a false prophet who engages and connects himself to new age and occult authors/speakers. because of the circle he runs with, i suspect him to be a luciferian shill
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[link to news4themasses.wordpress.com]
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OP, I was wondering if you are familiar with Chuck Missler? I just came across his youtube vids and I've watched maybe half a dozen of the short vids. From what I've seen he seems to be very knowledgeable. Is he reliable, in your opinion (if you know of him)?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Chuck Missler is a false prophet who engages and connects himself to new age and occult authors/speakers. because of the circle he runs with, i suspect him to be a luciferian shill
 Quoting: Salt


Really? That's surprising because from the short exposure I've had of him he seems to be speaking against the new age, exposing it and whatever. His mind when talking on biblical topics is like an encyclopedia, I thought.

Still...I will have to look into it a bit more. I was just about to, in fact.

Thanks.
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Oh...I missed seeing the link you just posted. Will have a look..

hf
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Oh...I missed seeing the link you just posted. Will have a look..

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[link to galatiansfour.blogspot.com]

here's another. he runs with the calvary chapel group.
don't even get me started on those people. really bad.
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Oh...I missed seeing the link you just posted. Will have a look..

hf
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[link to galatiansfour.blogspot.com]

here's another. he runs with the calvary chapel group.
don't even get me started on those people. really bad.
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Thanks. I will look into that as well. Sorry to hijack your thread, btw. I will have a look if there are any other threads about him.
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Oh...I missed seeing the link you just posted. Will have a look..

hf
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[link to galatiansfour.blogspot.com]

here's another. he runs with the calvary chapel group.
don't even get me started on those people. really bad.
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Thanks. I will look into that as well. Sorry to hijack your thread, btw. I will have a look if there are any other threads about him.
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i don't feel hijacked.
any time i get a chance to expose a false prophet i do a little dance.

lol....
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