The Idolaters Were Not Mainline Jews or Mainline Christians - Re: Pagan Influences - This data might surprise you.

^ Nobody should have any images of God AT ALL.

I saw this tv show once where a mormonian family had picture of 'Jesus' on the wall. And I metaphorically slapped my forehead.

i'm ex-catholic - and now a hardcore Christian, a follower of Lord Yeshua - and when i try to tell folks who are catholic that it's a disguised mystery babylon they look at me like i need to be institutionalized.

hehe

agreed.

do not form an image, create or engrave an image, paint a drawing, likeness, etc.

not so easy to do after centuries of pagan images being put up as idols infiltrated into the church.

this is more evil than people realize.

now that the images are formed, the symbols are utilized, how does the mind disconnect from them? how does the mind draw a blankness? it's near impossible.

anytime you see the long blonde haired and bearded jesus that looks like a white guy with blue eyes, you are looking at an image of Zeus/Sarapin, who is a mythological deity from Greece.

when i try to tell people that christmas originated from a heinous orgy called saturnalia people again look at me like i'm mental. christmas has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity at all

well yes and no.

the tree, the ornaments, the date, the feast, etc etc = pagan

the remembrance and celebration of the birth of Christ = Christian

blending the two = blasphemous

i just figure that you celebrate Christ every day by obeying His Words - to follow His Father's Commandments and to love one another as yourself

every day is a battle for me, and sometimes i fail miserably

agreed. we should. but there's nothing wrong with setting aside a day to recognize and celebrate his birth.

everyday is a battle for everyone.

just for you, Salt.. i think you'll really love this..

it's a series by a Christian guy in Scotland who has done a lot of research on the secret history of things.. one of the best series i've seen (and i watch a lot of conspiracy videos)..

[link to www.youtube.com]

wow cool. thanks.

The real issue with the whole idolatry thing is not just some purists obsession.

It is to do with how entities attach themselves to physical objects.

Watched the video, (excellent) and I learned more about Saturn and about the pics of Jesus.

I find that the new agers and the Freemasons (Muslims, Jews as well) are awaiting their messiah aren't they ? What Christians would call the anti-christ? I watch and read what they say about their signs because I know it's closer for the time for the anti -christ to come and "the rapture" of the Christians and or the 7 year tribulation (which I believe we are in already - just started).

Salt, have you ever considered doing a Revelations study on here ?

It would be cool to compare all the seals and verses that have come to pass and what we look for next.

Last Edited by Indysmindy on 12/29/2012 03:04 AM

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22. They are persons, because the plasmic substance which envelops the spirit of each, hinders the intimate union of that spirit with other spirit.

23. Spirit alone is diffuse, and the naked flame is liable to fuse with other flames.

24. But the flame which is enclosed in substance has become an indiffusible personality.

25. Other entities there are which are visible and tangible to material sense.

26. For the Divine Substance which encloses the spirit of each, coagulates exteriorly and becomes matter in the outermost.

27. So that the entity is composed of spirit, soul, and corporeal appearance.

28. The outermost has become coagulate; its inner content is fluid substance; its innermost is spirit.

29. The innermost is intangible light, which is the first generation; manifest by the Will of God through the Word of God.

30. The fluid medium is the firmament, which the Will of God divided from out of the great deep.

31. And the outermost is the dry earth, which is matter; which the Will of God causeth to appear by the gathering together of the waters, that is of the first protoplasma.

32. As of the greater, so also of the lesser.

33. This is the great secret; it is the mystery of generation.

thats very true,that pretty much sums up the whole topic! basically,

would that be the catholics? most likely

My belief on these things: God has both revealed His plan to redeem the fallen world from the start, in Genesis 3:15, and all through the Bible God had a selected people to work through and to represent Himself to the world, even though they would stumble and mess up along the way.

Paganism adopted from the people around them was a problem for the Israelites way back in time. It's why God caused the 10 Northern Tribes to be removed from the Land into captivity and scattered (The Ten Lost Tribes).

Jesus warned the Church in the Letters to the Churches of the demonic influences creeping into some of them.

Sure, from the time of Genesis some truth as been known by the many cultures that descended from Adam and Eve. Plus the enemy often seeks to deceive and copy what God does or plans to do, to try to take away from God what belongs to Him alone.

Also, it is written that the heavens declare the glory of God. So, the zodiac does tell the story of Jesus and God's plan of redemption, and of the victory over the serpant.

Look up "The Gospel in the Stars"...I think it's called.

Also, with the Catholic church...when Constantine 'converted' and forced his version of Christianity on all of Rome, many unbelievers were forced into the church.

Very nice.

And I picked up a couple of links from people who posted in this thread since my last post...the bryte show, and that youtube guy from Scotland..both of which I plan to look into later.

OP, I was wondering if you are familiar with Chuck Missler? I just came across his youtube vids and I've watched maybe half a dozen of the short vids. From what I've seen he seems to be very knowledgeable. Is he reliable, in your opinion (if you know of him)?

Chuck Missler is a false prophet who engages and connects himself to new age and occult authors/speakers. because of the circle he runs with, i suspect him to be a luciferian shill

[link to news4themasses.wordpress.com]

Really? That's surprising because from the short exposure I've had of him he seems to be speaking against the new age, exposing it and whatever. His mind when talking on biblical topics is like an encyclopedia, I thought.

Still...I will have to look into it a bit more. I was just about to, in fact.

Thanks.

Oh...I missed seeing the link you just posted. Will have a look..

[link to galatiansfour.blogspot.com]

here's another. he runs with the calvary chapel group.
don't even get me started on those people. really bad.

Thanks. I will look into that as well. Sorry to hijack your thread, btw. I will have a look if there are any other threads about him.

i don't feel hijacked.
any time i get a chance to expose a false prophet i do a little dance.

lol....

bump for weekend crew