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sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk

 
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ok so i was putting the rubbish out for recycling and looked up to see the sun rising over the horizon...beautiful, stood freezing my tits off for a min looking at it when i realised that it was not in the east...

dont all start shouting at once, im probably wrong put it was def south east not east....i know where north is as i had an app on my last phone but i also have an old fashion compas too so ran into look for it and couldnt believe it...even got 17 y/o son to check it as he would understand it better as hes done 3 yrs at cadets and agreed...

please explain the mistake i made to me as i have always been one to poohoo the whole sun moving pole shift stuff but got to say...im more than alittle shocked!!!
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Where in the UK?

What was the bearing that you read the sunrise at?
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
Really?

So although people are telling you it's because it is WINTER you still want to believe something 'weird' is going on?

lolsign
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LOLs to yourself, pal.

Now do you really think people opening up here about experiences like this are idiots?

I'm 40 years old with IQ of 144 and I've been familiar with more than just the basics of astronomy since childhood. You think I would't be aware of sun's position changing during the time of the year? Come on, I live in a country where it's basically pitch dark half of the year because of this.

Don't know about others posting here, but the impression I'm getting from how they express themselves, they're not tards either.

So, we should all just believe what "people are telling us" instead of trusting what we see with our own eyes and can reflect upon years of experiences of how things have been before? Not going to happen.
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
I noticed yesterday how far east-south the sun rose. The earth tilts on its axis and this gives us winter as earth is further away be a few degrees, but in my opinion the earth has tilted more and this is why we are getting severe weather.
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
I noticed yesterday how far east-south the sun rose.
The earth tilts on its axis and this gives us winter as earth is further away be a few degrees,
but in my opinion the earth has tilted more and this is why we are getting severe weather.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29328782


wall wall wall wall wall

Degree is a angular measuring unit - not a measuring unit for distance.



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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i do not mean to question the knowledge of others...

i can understand that ppl say go google this and go google that and it will exp[lain things to you and tell you everything is fine....but isn`t the internet just a tool...can the information put on it not be changed to suit those posting it...if the sky turned purple with pink spots and they wrote that the sky was ment to be purple with pink spots and its normal - does that make it true just because the internet says so?...

...dont many of you say not to watch tv cos it feeding you lies and msm is full of sh** and not to believe it...how do we know that google and the internet is not infact the same??





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Just been outside,the sun has gone,THE SUN HAS GONE PEOPLE!!!!
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Just been outside,the sun has gone,THE SUN HAS GONE PEOPLE!!!!
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Just been outside,the sun has gone,THE SUN HAS GONE PEOPLE!!!!
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
ok so i was putting the rubbish out for recycling and looked up to see the sun rising over the horizon...beautiful, stood freezing my tits off for a min looking at it when i realised that it was not in the east...

dont all start shouting at once, im probably wrong put it was def south east not east....i know where north is as i had an app on my last phone but i also have an old fashion compas too so ran into look for it and couldnt believe it...even got 17 y/o son to check it as he would understand it better as hes done 3 yrs at cadets and agreed...

please explain the mistake i made to me as i have always been one to poohoo the whole sun moving pole shift stuff but got to say...im more than alittle shocked!!!
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


Why would you want someone to poopoo it. Watch what you wish for they will show up in force in seconds.

So how far south was it. More south than east or inbetween.
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i would say between SE and SSE if that makes scense...

iv bn on here for about 2 yr now...take most things with a pinch of salt...but an open mind for the most part...but iv started to notice afew things that have got he looking at the sky abit more the last 3 days....but this is def a new one for me!!
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


I live on the East Coast US, and the Sun always rose directly over the ocean, from my view. Now it is rising pretty much Southeast, and has been for a while. Also, looking from my kitchen, in late afternoon, (best place for real science for me), the Sun used to be due West. Now I don't know where the hell it is, more Northwest? No idea, but it used to be blinding in my West facing window, now....not so much.
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When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
Would this not affect the time of sunrise, sunset and nightfall?

If there are any changes in these, the first to notice would be the Orthodox Jews who live their lives to the minute with their prayer services and Sabbath observances dependant on these astronomical events which they have drawn up to the second years in advance!
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if the sky turned purple with pink spots and they wrote that the sky was ment to be purple with pink spots and its normal - does that make it true just because the internet says so?...
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


Exactly. =D
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Would this not affect the time of sunrise, sunset and nightfall?

If there are any changes in these, the first to notice would be the Orthodox Jews who live their lives to the minute with their prayer services and Sabbath observances dependant on these astronomical events which they have drawn up to the second years in advance!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12008030


If I would have to guess, I'd say that the change isn't constant - it's as if Earth's axis was waning back and forth, away from the previously "normal" position and back. Also, if the change isn't really significant, it may not be noted that easily.

There were news (even in MSM) that the sun rose a day too early somewhere north of the arctic circle a year ago or so already. Now that's a huge thing, and the native people of the North did notice that. Then the news just got buried as if nothing had happened - just as we've seen happening so many times with many other news that don't fit the old paradigm.
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if the sky turned purple with pink spots and they wrote that the sky was ment to be purple with pink spots and its normal - does that make it true just because the internet says so?...
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


Exactly. =D
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i just dont understand how you are ment to trust one but not the other...if there is a dis-info thing going on wouldnt it effect all forms of infomation sources not just one or the other...?
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Every bloody winter sombody's saying the sun has moved.
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Would this not affect the time of sunrise, sunset and nightfall?

If there are any changes in these, the first to notice would be the Orthodox Jews who live their lives to the minute with their prayer services and Sabbath observances dependant on these astronomical events which they have drawn up to the second years in advance!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12008030


If I would have to guess, I'd say that the change isn't constant - it's as if Earth's axis was waning back and forth, away from the previously "normal" position and back. Also, if the change isn't really significant, it may not be noted that easily.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130142


If the Earth's axis was "waning" back and forth, a sure fire way of documenting that would be a time-lapse photo of the night sky centered on the North Celestial Pole. Any "waning" would be quite apparent in the recorded star trails. ANd yet, no one has done that (or produced a photo which shows such an effect).
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Thread: ...and it made me wonder....
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
ok so i was putting the rubbish out for recycling and looked up to see the sun rising over the horizon...beautiful, stood freezing my tits off for a min looking at it when i realised that it was not in the east...

dont all start shouting at once, im probably wrong put it was def south east not east....i know where north is as i had an app on my last phone but i also have an old fashion compas too so ran into look for it and couldnt believe it...even got 17 y/o son to check it as he would understand it better as hes done 3 yrs at cadets and agreed...

please explain the mistake i made to me as i have always been one to poohoo the whole sun moving pole shift stuff but got to say...im more than alittle shocked!!!
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


It's called "the seasons". Get a clue.
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
ok so i was putting the rubbish out for recycling and looked up to see the sun rising over the horizon...beautiful, stood freezing my tits off for a min looking at it when i realised that it was not in the east...

dont all start shouting at once, im probably wrong put it was def south east not east....i know where north is as i had an app on my last phone but i also have an old fashion compas too so ran into look for it and couldnt believe it...even got 17 y/o son to check it as he would understand it better as hes done 3 yrs at cadets and agreed...

please explain the mistake i made to me as i have always been one to poohoo the whole sun moving pole shift stuff but got to say...im more than alittle shocked!!!
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



I was telling that to my dad who lives quite a ways from me. He told my my sister was walking her dog and told him the same thing. The sun is not in the right spot.
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Is your sister an astronomer? No? Then ask somebody who really knows about this stuff, hmm?
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
It's called midvintersolstice. During the short winter days the Sun does not rise exactly in the east, but instead rises just south of east and it sets south of west.

[link to solar.physics.montana.edu]
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It's called midvintersolstice. During the short winter days the Sun does not rise exactly in the east, but instead rises just south of east and it sets south of west.

[link to solar.physics.montana.edu]
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Actually, depending on your latitude, it can set WELL south of west, not just a little.
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
Now do you really think people opening up here about experiences like this are idiots?
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No, just mistaken.

I'm 40 years old with IQ of 144 and I've been familiar with more than just the basics of astronomy since childhood. You think I would't be aware of sun's position changing during the time of the year?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130142


No, just the extent of it and how "unusual" it looks at the extreme ends of travel.

Come on, I live in a country where it's basically pitch dark half of the year because of this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130142

Have any pics of previous years showing the sun setting in a different place on the same date in previous years?

Don't know about others posting here, but the impression I'm getting from how they express themselves, they're not tards either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130142


No, just mistaken, but it is their insistence that they can't be wrong in spite of the world's astronomers not noticing that makes them "tards".

So, we should all just believe what "people are telling us"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130142


What people? Astronomers? I daresay none of these "sun out of place" folks have even spoken to an astronomer. If they had, they might understand why they are wrong.

instead of trusting what we see with our own eyes and can reflect upon years of experiences of how things have been before? Not going to happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130142


As always, it is NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE WITH YOUR EYES! It is about WHAT YOU THINK YOU REMEMBER! And... none of you EVER have any photos from previous years to support WHAT YOU THINK YOU REMEMBER!
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
i do not mean to question the knowledge of others...

i can understand that ppl say go google this and go google that and it will exp[lain things to you and tell you everything is fine....but isn`t the internet just a tool...can the information put on it not be changed to suit those posting it...if the sky turned purple with pink spots and they wrote that the sky was ment to be purple with pink spots and its normal - does that make it true just because the internet says so?...

...dont many of you say not to watch tv cos it feeding you lies and msm is full of sh** and not to believe it...how do we know that google and the internet is not infact the same??





still open minded
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


It ALWAYS comes down to a vast conspiracy... ALWAYS. The only way this could be true is an air-tight conspiracy between thousands upon thousands of astronomers, all around the planet. The very idea is absurd.
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Only 5 posts, menow..?

They know.

Tell us more about how they don't know what they know..
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Only 5 posts, menow..?

They know.

Tell us more about how they don't know what they know..
 Quoting: Waterbug


You mean they think they remember where the sun was in previous years. Funny how NONE of them EVER has and pictures to prove what they think they remember. Funny how no real astronomers agree with them. I wonder... who is right...? I'll take the astronomers.
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Only 5 posts, menow..?

They know.

Tell us more about how they don't know what they know..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Oh... and you... do YOU have ANY physical evidence to show that the sun is not where it should be?
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"Its people like you that make me so sad.

There are a wealth of surise and sun set tables out there on the web which were tabulated years ago.

Just check your facts before engaging mouth you idiot.....

[link to www.timeanddate.com]"


What a fucking stupid asshole the poster who wrote this is.. they are not even human
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Re: sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
ok so i was putting the rubbish out for recycling and looked up to see the sun rising over the horizon...beautiful, stood freezing my tits off for a min looking at it when i realised that it was not in the east...

dont all start shouting at once, im probably wrong put it was def south east not east....i know where north is as i had an app on my last phone but i also have an old fashion compas too so ran into look for it and couldnt believe it...even got 17 y/o son to check it as he would understand it better as hes done 3 yrs at cadets and agreed...

please explain the mistake i made to me as i have always been one to poohoo the whole sun moving pole shift stuff but got to say...im more than alittle shocked!!!
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


Just so it's clear now... the mistake you made was in thinking that the sun shouldn't be rising in the Southeast. It should be- that is normal for this time of year.
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ok so i was putting the rubbish out for recycling and looked up to see the sun rising over the horizon...beautiful, stood freezing my tits off for a min looking at it when i realised that it was not in the east...

dont all start shouting at once, im probably wrong put it was def south east not east....i know where north is as i had an app on my last phone but i also have an old fashion compas too so ran into look for it and couldnt believe it...even got 17 y/o son to check it as he would understand it better as hes done 3 yrs at cadets and agreed...

please explain the mistake i made to me as i have always been one to poohoo the whole sun moving pole shift stuff but got to say...im more than alittle shocked!!!
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


how can the sun bee in the wrong place,,
It's alway there?? right in the middle.
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Only 5 posts, menow..?

They know.

Tell us more about how they don't know what they know..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Oh... and you... do YOU have ANY physical evidence to show that the sun is not where it should be?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Maybe I do; maybe I don't.
Why would anyone feel obliged to provide any
information to an anonymous poster who offers
so little in return?
I think it's better that you continue your ignorance regarding any knowledge
I may or may not possess.

Now, I'll let you get back to brow-beating the posters.
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Only 5 posts, menow..?

They know.

Tell us more about how they don't know what they know..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Oh... and you... do YOU have ANY physical evidence to show that the sun is not where it should be?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Maybe I do; maybe I don't.
 Quoting: Waterbug


My money is on "don't".

Why would anyone feel obliged to provide any
information to an anonymous poster who offers
so little in return?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Heh. Don't do it for ME... do it for all those who believe it's true. They NEED your help!

I think it's better that you continue your ignorance regarding any knowledge
I may or may not possess.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Ohh.... PLEASE... I NEED to be enlightened! I CRAVE your knowledge! I can't LIVE without it!

Now, I'll let you get back to brow-beating the posters.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Wot a maroon!

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