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Message Subject sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
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Debunkers, those of us who are reporting significant changes in the location of the sun are well aware that it moves position throughout the year Ė that is precisely the point we are making.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29871220

Then why do so many people simply say something like this: "The sun has ALWAYS set over that mountain!". I saw that posted just today.

When a person has lived in the same house for a decade (or two in my case) watching sunrise and sunset, they know exactly where to look for it throughout the seasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29871220

You might think that was true, but it's not.

Many are seeing the sun now visible through new windows - or missing from a window entirely where it had previously been visible at a specific time of year, every year. Porches and decks that never got a ray of sunshine - ever - are now receiving direct sunlight. We are not experts in astronomy but we are certainly capable of critical observation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29871220

Apparently not, by sheer definition.

The phenomenon being observed by so many is that houses and decks do not move but the position of the sun has. The charts and measurements debunkers reference are simply failing to explain this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29871220

Excuse me? Charts and measurements describe where the sun is SUPPOSED to rise and set. Funny how they are exactly right, regardless of what some people think they remember.

Scientific discoveries happen because brilliant minds want to know more about an observed phenomenon. They must question and think outside the box and experiment to find out why something is happening the way it is. This is how old scientific models are discarded for new ones.

Instead of using stale Geology and Astronomy 101 information to disparage the abundance of empirical evidence being reported, why donít those of you who claim to be knowledgeable in the field seek to think outside the box and figure out what could be causing these sun changes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29871220

Heh... WHAT "sun changes"? You simply don't get that wild claim accepted as a 'given' without showing some documented evidence. Got any? No? Didn't think so.

How can NONE of these "observant people" have EVER taken ANY photos showing how the sunset USED TO BE as opposed to the "wrong" way it is now? No kids softball games at dusk... no sunsets over a lake... no pictures of BBQing in the backyard as the sun goes down.... NOTHING!

On the other hand... an entire archive of sunset pics from the same location. [link to www.katkam.ca] Knock yourself out!
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