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ABANDON MONEY

 
ClearlyObscure
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12/19/2012 02:49 PM

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It'll still be about 105 more years until the masses are sick enough with our societal monetary obsessions enough to really start scrapping it in droves...

Always big changes coming...
But hard to see them looking foward.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/19/2012 11:30 PM
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UK couple abandon money

It’s not the way it works. Humanity has been living this way for too long, grabbing whatever they can to ‘make themselves happy’. It doesn’t work like that — it never has, never will. All of our happiness and sadness is created internally.


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I don't know about that, I am pretty happy when I buy something I've always wanted or look forward to buying.
Specially when its something usefull.
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You trade your labor for something. If you traded your labor for labor, and products of labor for products of labor - that would be another thing.


For now you trade everything for money, thus money is your government. Money direct your life and you abide. Is that ok?
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12/19/2012 11:38 PM
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It'll still be about 105 more years until the masses are sick enough with our societal monetary obsessions enough to really start scrapping it in droves...

Always big changes coming...
But hard to see them looking foward.
 Quoting: ClearlyObscure



If somebody told you that money do not guarantee anything, would you continue using it? Sure it gives some level of anonymity, thus many things including war have been done on this basis.
Red Hot Chilean Pepe

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12/22/2012 10:14 AM

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I long for the day that people realize about this.

I am all for the end of money, and the end of xchange, also. One must do things for free, just for the love of it. "To Freely Give, and Freely Take".
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Red Hot Chilean Pepe

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12/22/2012 10:19 AM

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A couple of threads I started time ago, on the same topic. Not a popular one in GLP, it seems.

Thread: I know that for most Americans this is Heresy, But Would you give it a thorough look? (Thread about understanding money for what it really is)

Thread: The Green Beautiful (1996 French movie) Interesting "outsider" perspective of our society.
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Hymen Goldstein
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12/22/2012 10:22 AM
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As strange as it seems, but there are no articles how to abandon money...
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It is real simple. All you do is steal everything you need. Do it with a smile and the people you are ripping off will smile right back at you. Honest!
samanthasunflower

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12/22/2012 10:22 AM

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Do some research in the true early days of America. The colonists came here and set up collectivist societies. In which everyone was supposed to work and only take what they needed.

It ended each time after enough people starved to death. There was no reason to work, since everyone was guaranteed the same slice of the pie at the end of the day.

The answer is not to get rid of money, but to bring back real money and get rid of fiat currency. Combine that with a 7 year Jubilee so that one doesn't spend his/her life in debt slavery, and we would have a much better society.
Balloons

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12/22/2012 10:25 AM
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ok i did that whats next?
Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
Quasar

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12/22/2012 10:32 AM

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Ya nie lubit dinge...
Born of the Cosmos...

"Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves."

Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam...
Balloons

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12/22/2012 10:35 AM
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ok i did that whats next?
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if i win the lotto can i throw monny at you?
Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
chowan

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12/22/2012 10:47 AM

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Do some research in the true early days of America. The colonists came here and set up collectivist societies. In which everyone was supposed to work and only take what they needed.

It ended each time after enough people starved to death. There was no reason to work, since everyone was guaranteed the same slice of the pie at the end of the day.

The answer is not to get rid of money, but to bring back real money and get rid of fiat currency. Combine that with a 7 year Jubilee so that one doesn't spend his/her life in debt slavery, and we would have a much better society.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


^^^THIS ^^^

ive seen and expierienced some attempts at collectivism
what you generally end up with with a small number of
workers who love what they are doing and share the fruits of that labor and a much larger group of lazy takers.

eventually the workers say F it,stop working and leave

even among early/primitive people there was some measure
of barter and trade even though a large part of their efforts were group/collective orientated
sheell be right mate
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12/22/2012 01:29 PM
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UK couple abandon money

It’s not the way it works. Humanity has been living this way for too long, grabbing whatever they can to ‘make themselves happy’. It doesn’t work like that — it never has, never will. All of our happiness and sadness is created internally.


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At one time the more you had...the more you surrendered at the proper time. Yearly these North American Indians called;

The Kwakiutl Indians of NW North America and Canada

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now the prize was "HE WHO HAD THE MOST TO GIVE AWAY". It was a custom called Potlatching

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

A potlatch[1][2] is a gift-giving festival and primary economic system[3] practiced by indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of Canada and United States. This includes Heiltsuk Nation, Haida, Nuxalk, Tlingit, Makah, Tsimshian,[4] Nuu-chah-nulth,[5] Kwakwaka'wakw,[3] and Coast Salish[6] cultures. The word comes from the Chinook Jargon, meaning "to give away" or "a gift"; originally from the Nuu-chah-nulth word p̓ačiƛ, to make a ceremonial gift in a potlatch.[1] It went through a history of rigorous ban by both the Canadian and United States' federal governments, and has been the study of many anthropologists.


I'm not saying this is how we should be....but outlawing it makes me think this type of social custom was not good or a threat for the "Western World" way or economic exchange?

rant
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12/22/2012 01:35 PM
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How am I supposed to pay my taxes without money? You are advocating for me to have to set up camp in the streets and live out my life like that. I would rather be dead.
Anonymous Coward
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12/22/2012 02:33 PM
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I just wanted to bump this topic to give it one star. I'll add that everyone that posted in this topic, except for me, is a moron.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/22/2012 11:00 PM
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How am I supposed to pay my taxes without money? You are advocating for me to have to set up camp in the streets and live out my life like that. I would rather be dead.
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Learn the history of taxation .
Anonymous Coward
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12/22/2012 11:18 PM
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Living Without Money
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12/22/2012 11:42 PM
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[link to www.freeworldcharter.net]
Anonymous Coward
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01/04/2013 12:12 PM
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If a group of people went to colonise another planet, what need would they have of money, or even barter systems? They would all simply work for the good of the community. Creative output, also, such as music and art, would be freely shared and enjoyed. There would be no such thing as 'copyright' because there would be no such thing as personal financial gain.
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If only we could live in such a society ...
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We can! A study shows that you only need 10% of a population to support an idea in order for it to become accepted. All we need is 750 000 000 people to want to give up money and the rest will follow along.

The only reason tptb have power over us is because we let them. This is our choice and we can change it if we want.
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01/04/2013 12:21 PM
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I don't know about that, I am pretty happy when I buy something I've always wanted or look forward to buying.
Specially when its something usefull.



If you try to look at how things affect everybody as a whole instead of how they affect individuals, you just might understand what Op is putting out there.

The "I'm happy" or "This doesn't affect me" attitudes are what is holding us back. Everyone deserves to be happy, period.
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01/04/2013 11:34 PM
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This is exactly what makes this world a shithole instead of a paradise. Syndrome of a caveman.

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