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As this dark world draws to a close, the mindset and collective thought will become more polarized more to good or bad as the Kingdom of God approaches. Christ said you are either for him or against him or he spew you out of his mouth. In these days, there is less sputum and more alignment to the spirit of the antichrist or the acceptance of Christ as your Savior. The stage is set for the coming grand deception and unfortunately many will take the mark.
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The VAST majority will take the Mark.
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Again, the irony is that this religious thread was posted by an atheist. Me thinks you guys love debating this topic or you'd just leave the Christians to their threads instead of always interacting and making new ones about how much you feel they are bullshit. Obsess much.
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And then they WONDER why Christians would have the "audacity" to come here and defend their beliefs.

They accuse us of everything under the sun. They provoke, and attack, ridicule, and then marvel when they are treated with disrespect in return.

It is THEY who are the ultimate hypocrites, and agitators.
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Wow, I don't think you know what it means to be a good christian! You threaten someone?! Is that being a good christian person? To me, people have confused what being a christian is all about. It doesn't matter if you are catholic, protestant, hindu, and all the multitude of religions that are out there. To me, it is all about respecting and valuing your fellow man, being treated the way you want to be treated, NOT going around and using God as some excuse to feel better about yourself, and disrespect your fellow man! I was born catholic, and now I am a reformed catholic. I don't want someone else cramming their beliefs down my throat, anymore then most of you do!
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I think when it comes down to it, there are two types of christians. The first type is that kind and loving person who gives unconditional love to everyone, regardless of their religion. The second type thinks that because they can memorize or copy and paste bible verses, it somehow proves they are good people, despite hurling insults and never thinking twice about it. Both types can be seen on this thread.
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Yep! They actually believe that believing in some imaginary being and all the bullshit that goes with it somehow makes them good people.
You're either a good person or you're not, and no amount of make believe changes that.
Some of the most dishonest, backstabbing and all round detestable people I know claim to 'love jesus'.
If 'loving'superman or russels teapot makes one a good person then the world truly has gone to all hell.
And how the fuck can you love an idea in the first place? And until proof tothe contrary is presented, an idea is all jesus is...
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It is important, however, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Substitute the word "Jesus" in your post with the word "consciousness", and you'll find that the same argument can be applied.


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Methinks you've got a lot of new agey crappola floating around the brain.
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As this dark world draws to a close, the mindset and collective thought will become more polarized more to good or bad as the Kingdom of God approaches. Christ said you are either for him or against him or he spew you out of his mouth. In these days, there is less sputum and more alignment to the spirit of the antichrist or the acceptance of Christ as your Savior. The stage is set for the coming grand deception and unfortunately many will take the mark.
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Such insight and intelligence! Not! Your mundane recitation and quoting of hackneyed scripture in defense of your death cult is laughable.

Not everybody trembles at your god's feet!
In fact, much like we laugh at the god of the muslims, we laugh at your pallid and incompetent christ hanging on a tree and driven full of holes.
Pathetic to say the least.

I'm not afraid of your fearsome jehova. In fact I find him quite amusing. Much like I find the 'devil' to be a bit of a joke.

Now, you may feel this to be an 'attack' on you but I assure you it isn't. Well, not in the 'demonic' sense you would believe it to be.

Now, back to your blood and sacrifice...
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Man, you really ARE an evil puke.

Ya know that?
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Again, the irony is that this religious thread was posted by an atheist. Me thinks you guys love debating this topic or you'd just leave the Christians to their threads instead of always interacting and making new ones about how much you feel they are bullshit. Obsess much.
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And then they WONDER why Christians would have the "audacity" to come here and defend their beliefs.

They accuse us of everything under the sun. They provoke, and attack, ridicule, and then marvel when they are treated with disrespect in return.

It is THEY who are the ultimate hypocrites, and agitators.
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Yep. and then you try to provide them with resources and evidence to consider that we may be on to something, and they decide to remain completely ignorant and close minded. It's called militant atheism, they are more interested in creating a scene, belittling, and accusing, just like their daddy, satan.
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Oh please!

Believe what you want. I don't care what you believe. You seem to have it fixated in your mind that I do care what you belive, I don't. There I am trying to spell it out so you understand it this time. I do not care. I am happy for you if you believe in the bible. Maybe that is why you miss read the bible - you misunderstand almost everything I post. Either that, or you do it on purpose because you can't give me a logical answer.

You give out hatred. You started calling me names for no reason. Finally I called you out on it.

You are that butthurt because I don't believe the bible is fact? Why would that make you start having a tantrum and breathing fire and brimestone and saying you are the saved one implying you are special? I didn't even think about trying to make you not believe it too. I did try and show you that Jesus was kind - but you believe different. You belive he holds grudges and wishes people into hell. Strange he let himself get crucified to save people then isn't it? He should not have bothered.

If you cared about us and wanted to plant a seed here, like you claim, I think a bit of undestanding would have gone a long way. One thing to be rude to people who are rude to you but to start calling names first for nothing is not my idea of Godly.In fact you did a great job of putting a lot of people off.

Hopefully this will be my last post to you as you seem incapable of understanding that I want nothing from you, and I don't want to change your belief. What I object to is you acting like I am less than human because I don't believe in a book that you do believe in.
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Never said you were "less than human". That's your OWN insecurity.

I said it before (several times), and I'll say it one last time. Are you listening?

I don't care WHAT you believe. You can believe that the moon is made of green cheese.

Doesn't bother me one bit!
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Good but from your nasty posts it looks like it bothered you - a lot! You couldn't handle it and you couldn't leave it alone, even posts that were not addressed to you.

You said Jesus was going to make me pay on the day he comes, which you said is soon, more bullshit! You said I was an idiot ozitard. You said I had satan in me. That was my insecurity was it? Having satan in me would make me less than human. So now you are resorting to lies too.

You think you are so smart with your twisting of meanings and words. You maybe smart in your own mind but you sure look like a rude ass from others perspective.

you are not funny, you are not well versed with the bible and you are a close minded bigot to boot. You are rude and ignorant and a great example of a christian true believer.

In fact far as I can see there is nothing Christ like in you and you didn't give a damn about putting out a seed. You just wanted to sprout of your big fat mouth and stir people up.
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That's the opinion of a God and Christian hating atheist, who's proved themselves to be a total turdball, over and over in this thread.

Doesn't amount to much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29696808


That is your opinion and you have proved yourself to be a nasty vindictive imbecile and an evil one at that. Over and over again.
You amount to nothing. Really you are one sick person.

Try and get your knuckles of the floor.
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I don't want to troll you guys, but it's beyond me how someone can be so simple minded and can't see through all the religious bullshit that's going on on this website. I rarely visit nowadays because the fundamentalists have taken over. Once, I was a famous poster here. But that's long over.

Really? Angels? With wings? A god that is involved in human interaction and choses a certain group of people as his favoured ones. Ridiculous!
Eternal hellfire for the sinners? LOL! How stupid must one be to believe such utter nonsense. The son of god - sent here to be slaughtered, and the mere fact that you chose his slaugtered body as your symbol should give even the dumbest human an idea of the perversity of church.

Has it never occured to you, that you have been fed a lie from the day of your birth and that your so called "religions" are the onl reason for the bad condition, humanity is in.

God has no body and does not chose sides. It's the spark of life in everyone of us, much less and much more at the same time.

But I know you're a lost cause because you are indoctrinated completely with this evil propaganda.

ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS ARE POISON TO THIS EARTH, AND YOU FOLLOWERS WILL BE REMEBERED AS THE EVIL ONES, JUST LIKE THE NAZIS, BY HISTORY.

AND DON'T POST YOUR F U C K I N G BIBLE VERSES TO ME, BECAUSE I REFUSE TO READ THIS POISONOUS CRAP.
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I hate to tell you buddy but atheism IS a religion. It requires just as much faith because God can't be proven or disproved. However I will say this..

your attitudes towards Christians only confirms the truth, it was prophesied in the bible. So was the one world government (New World Order) that's at our doorstep. The leadders of the secret societies that run the world believe in Jesus, and the Bible, as they worship Lucifer, and consider Jesus evil. They also commit mass black magick rituals based on teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley .. i.e 9/11. (see book 'the most dangerous book in the world') Perhaps it's not a fairytale after all?


I would also recommend checking out these resources:

Thread: True Atheism is impossible.
[link to creation.com]
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They won't. As they've ALREADY demonstrated that they are not INTERESTED in the truth.

Only interested in attacking those who ARE.
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OP, you have a right to believe what you want. But how can you totally discredit a religion that has first person accounts of it's figurehead that were written over 2000 years ago? I put much more credit into someone like Matthew, Mark, Luke or John who actually saw these things, than a critic that lived thousands of years later and was not there to see these things like they were. Oh, and not to mention the over 500 witnesses mentioned that saw them as well.
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Do some research. Mathew, Mark, Luke and John were written long after Jesus. About 200 years after. I can't remember for sure because it doesn't interest me enough.


Look it up for yourself so you don't accuse me of being a liar or I am twisting the truth.
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Regardless of when the life of Christ and his Galileean ministry were put into print, there is something far greater here. It is faith. How many during the life of Christ were healed without the existence of a New Testament? There were many. He told many their faith healed them. Faith! Not words! Faith!
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The biggest "Sin" anyone can ever commit, is to wish for someone elses soul being tortured for eternity in a place like hell. This is worse than rape, worse than massmurder, worse than anything imaginable, worse than the acts the most evil beings on this planet ever have commited here...

A person that is capable to embody so much hate and negativity, to be able to truly wish for another being to be tortured for eternity, is to me the most evil being that has ever walked this planet...

I don`t care if your religious indoctrination and mindcontrol commands you/forces you to judge these people, in your attempt to save these people, if you only had a bit of true love left within your heart, you would know better...

I hope one day you will rediscover this spark in your heart.

For everyone else... who likes being special, elected or a chosen one, who likes being superior...

The best place for the Darkness to hide is in the Light...

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Not quite sure who you are directing that at, but just make sure that you never confuse WARNING people of the coming judgment, with "wishing for someone elses soul being tortured for eternity".

There always seems to be a LOT of people who confuse the two. If I actually WISHED for someone to be lost, then I would NOT spend even ONE second WARNING them.

Also, I have studied the bible for 25 solid years, and I know that "eternal torment" is not even biblical.

The wicked are DESTROYED, not given eternal life in torment. The wages of sin is DEATH. Not being kept alive in agony.

The bible says they shall be as it they never were.


One more thing...

Wishing that someone would burn forever is NOT the "biggest sin you can commit".

Not sure where you pulled THAT out of, but it certainly wasn't the bible.

The biggest sin you can commit, is the UNPARDONABLE sin, which is "blaspheming the Holy Spirit". Which essentially means to GRIEVE away the Spirit of God, with a continual and ongoing refusal to repent.

All other sin is pardonable.
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And when you realize that the "Holy Spirit" is not something that exists outside of yourself, but is actually that spark of life that YOUR consciousness resides in, it makes that sin much more easy to understand as to why it would work that way. thumbs


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Not true.

The Holy Spirit is a "personage". It is part of the Godhead. It is referred to in the bible as "he". The bible says that the Holy Spirit is in heaven, but is SENT to minister to those who obey God, or are at least TRYING to obey God.

It's not some "spark of life" that naturally resides in us. It indwells us when God SENDS it to us, which is dependent upon our attitude.

The Holy Spirit will LEAVE someone, if they persistently reject it, or disobey it. This is 100% biblical.

But hey, thanks for the "lesson".

Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do you spend studying scripture?
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Then we agree to disagree.

Personally I find it far more interesting in studying God's Creation from a more contemporary standpoint. One that stresses more on the similarities of differing cultural beliefs and that also incorporates empirical scientific and historical observations.

I see what is being taught through the current Western educational paradigm as being out of synch with how the universe is. At a fundamental level, human beings are being schooled that they don't matter to the universe. That they are but accidental creations that have no inherent meaning to the Creation that they were born into. In the 4 years I've spent on GLP, I've been talking mainly about a model of the universe that takes consciousness not only into account, but shows that it is the primary driver in this Creation.

There is a shortage of NEW ideas that and NEW ways to look at the reality that we live in, and I feel that it is every man and woman's duty to push the envelope in seeking out a more accurate understanding of the LIVING universe that we reside within. And in that way, we'll have a better chance of finding our meaning and purpose in a universe that does in fact love and care for us.

universe

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Again, the irony is that this religious thread was posted by an atheist. Me thinks you guys love debating this topic or you'd just leave the Christians to their threads instead of always interacting and making new ones about how much you feel they are bullshit. Obsess much.
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And then they WONDER why Christians would have the "audacity" to come here and defend their beliefs.

They accuse us of everything under the sun. They provoke, and attack, ridicule, and then marvel when they are treated with disrespect in return.

It is THEY who are the ultimate hypocrites, and agitators.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29696808


Yep. and then you try to provide them with resources and evidence to consider that we may be on to something, and they decide to remain completely ignorant and close minded. It's called militant atheism, they are more interested in creating a scene, belittling, and accusing, just like their daddy, satan.
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Well to me, that's the funny part. They do a wonderful job of proving the bible to be right, and accurate, by their OWN behavior.

These people are excellent at helping to fulfill bible prophecy. I want to thank them for helping to strengthen my faith!
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I think when it comes down to it, there are two types of christians. The first type is that kind and loving person who gives unconditional love to everyone, regardless of their religion. The second type thinks that because they can memorize or copy and paste bible verses, it somehow proves they are good people, despite hurling insults and never thinking twice about it. Both types can be seen on this thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29281197


Yep! They actually believe that believing in some imaginary being and all the bullshit that goes with it somehow makes them good people.
You're either a good person or you're not, and no amount of make believe changes that.
Some of the most dishonest, backstabbing and all round detestable people I know claim to 'love jesus'.
If 'loving'superman or russels teapot makes one a good person then the world truly has gone to all hell.
And how the fuck can you love an idea in the first place? And until proof tothe contrary is presented, an idea is all jesus is...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29701003


It is important, however, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Substitute the word "Jesus" in your post with the word "consciousness", and you'll find that the same argument can be applied.


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Methinks you've got a lot of new agey crappola floating around the brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29696808


Yes.

It would be easier for you to slap a label on me and call it a day.

No doubt about that.

Thinking and learning is challenging.

So, "mail it in". Be my guest. thumbs


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Not quite sure who you are directing that at, but just make sure that you never confuse WARNING people of the coming judgment, with "wishing for someone elses soul being tortured for eternity".

There always seems to be a LOT of people who confuse the two. If I actually WISHED for someone to be lost, then I would NOT spend even ONE second WARNING them.

Also, I have studied the bible for 25 solid years, and I know that "eternal torment" is not even biblical.

The wicked are DESTROYED, not given eternal life in torment. The wages of sin is DEATH. Not being kept alive in agony.

The bible says they shall be as it they never were.


One more thing...

Wishing that someone would burn forever is NOT the "biggest sin you can commit".

Not sure where you pulled THAT out of, but it certainly wasn't the bible.

The biggest sin you can commit, is the UNPARDONABLE sin, which is "blaspheming the Holy Spirit". Which essentially means to GRIEVE away the Spirit of God, with a continual and ongoing refusal to repent.

All other sin is pardonable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29696808


And when you realize that the "Holy Spirit" is not something that exists outside of yourself, but is actually that spark of life that YOUR consciousness resides in, it makes that sin much more easy to understand as to why it would work that way. thumbs


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 Quoting: BOWMAN





Not true.

The Holy Spirit is a "personage". It is part of the Godhead. It is referred to in the bible as "he". The bible says that the Holy Spirit is in heaven, but is SENT to minister to those who obey God, or are at least TRYING to obey God.

It's not some "spark of life" that naturally resides in us. It indwells us when God SENDS it to us, which is dependent upon our attitude.

The Holy Spirit will LEAVE someone, if they persistently reject it, or disobey it. This is 100% biblical.

But hey, thanks for the "lesson".

Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do you spend studying scripture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29696808


Then we agree to disagree.

Personally I find it far more interesting in studying God's Creation from a more contemporary standpoint. One that stresses more on the similarities of differing cultural beliefs and that also incorporates empirical scientific and historical observations.

I see what is being taught through the current Western educational paradigm as being out of synch with how the universe is. At a fundamental level, human beings are being schooled that they don't matter to the universe. That they are but accidental creations that have no inherent meaning to the Creation that they were born into. In the 4 years I've spent on GLP, I've been talking mainly about a model of the universe that takes consciousness not only into account, but shows that it is the primary driver in this Creation.

There is a shortage of NEW ideas that and NEW ways to look at the reality that we live in, and I feel that it is every man and woman's duty to push the envelope in seeking out a more accurate understanding of the LIVING universe that we reside within. And in that way, we'll have a better chance of finding our meaning and purpose in a universe that does in fact love and care for us.

:universe:

:cells:


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 Quoting: BOWMAN





That's OK with me, because you don't disagree with me.

You disagree with the bible. I can back up everything I said, biblically.

And personally, I believe that our DEPARTURE form that old time Christianity is the PROBLEM, and not the solution.
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Once again....

...here we go folks...

ROLL IT!

Atheism is the NWO lie

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I didn't look at any of your links, but how is 'the lack of belief in a god' a lie?
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Jesus is Truth!

His word - the Bible is world history.

Atheism is the NWO lie.
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Again, please explain to me how atheism is a lie? Really, how does that make any ounce of sense. Is it a lie that I don't believe in unicorns?
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Atheism is the NWO lie
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As this dark world draws to a close, the mindset and collective thought will become more polarized more to good or bad as the Kingdom of God approaches. Christ said you are either for him or against him or he spew you out of his mouth. In these days, there is less sputum and more alignment to the spirit of the antichrist or the acceptance of Christ as your Savior. The stage is set for the coming grand deception and unfortunately many will take the mark.
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Such insight and intelligence! Not! Your mundane recitation and quoting of hackneyed scripture in defense of your death cult is laughable.

Not everybody trembles at your god's feet!
In fact, much like we laugh at the god of the muslims, we laugh at your pallid and incompetent christ hanging on a tree and driven full of holes.
Pathetic to say the least.

I'm not afraid of your fearsome jehova. In fact I find him quite amusing. Much like I find the 'devil' to be a bit of a joke.

Now, you may feel this to be an 'attack' on you but I assure you it isn't. Well, not in the 'demonic' sense you would believe it to be.

Now, back to your blood and sacrifice...
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Man, you really ARE an evil puke.

Ya know that?
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There is no peace in his heart or mind. His mind is firmly entrenched in the serpent matrix. I could give testimony to what I have experienced in my life, but it would be for naught for his ilk. He does satan's bidding and doesn't even know it. The end product of satanism is nothing as they are thrown into a lake of fire for the second death. It is as much their creation as God's. They chose it. It truly does come down to either accepting life or death on an eternal level. The atheist is in the death camp. It is sad. In Milton's works what does it say at the gates of Hell? "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." The atheist got a headstart in this life.
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And when you realize that the "Holy Spirit" is not something that exists outside of yourself, but is actually that spark of life that YOUR consciousness resides in, it makes that sin much more easy to understand as to why it would work that way. thumbs


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 Quoting: BOWMAN





Not true.

The Holy Spirit is a "personage". It is part of the Godhead. It is referred to in the bible as "he". The bible says that the Holy Spirit is in heaven, but is SENT to minister to those who obey God, or are at least TRYING to obey God.

It's not some "spark of life" that naturally resides in us. It indwells us when God SENDS it to us, which is dependent upon our attitude.

The Holy Spirit will LEAVE someone, if they persistently reject it, or disobey it. This is 100% biblical.

But hey, thanks for the "lesson".

Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do you spend studying scripture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29696808


Then we agree to disagree.

Personally I find it far more interesting in studying God's Creation from a more contemporary standpoint. One that stresses more on the similarities of differing cultural beliefs and that also incorporates empirical scientific and historical observations.

I see what is being taught through the current Western educational paradigm as being out of synch with how the universe is. At a fundamental level, human beings are being schooled that they don't matter to the universe. That they are but accidental creations that have no inherent meaning to the Creation that they were born into. In the 4 years I've spent on GLP, I've been talking mainly about a model of the universe that takes consciousness not only into account, but shows that it is the primary driver in this Creation.

There is a shortage of NEW ideas that and NEW ways to look at the reality that we live in, and I feel that it is every man and woman's duty to push the envelope in seeking out a more accurate understanding of the LIVING universe that we reside within. And in that way, we'll have a better chance of finding our meaning and purpose in a universe that does in fact love and care for us.

universe

cells


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 Quoting: BOWMAN





That's OK with me, because you don't disagree with me.

You disagree with the bible. I can back up everything I said, biblically.

And personally, I believe that our DEPARTURE form that old time Christianity is the PROBLEM, and not the solution.
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There's no issue here.

You are free to adhere to your beliefs as you see fit.


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Yep! They actually believe that believing in some imaginary being and all the bullshit that goes with it somehow makes them good people.
You're either a good person or you're not, and no amount of make believe changes that.
Some of the most dishonest, backstabbing and all round detestable people I know claim to 'love jesus'.
If 'loving'superman or russels teapot makes one a good person then the world truly has gone to all hell.
And how the fuck can you love an idea in the first place? And until proof tothe contrary is presented, an idea is all jesus is...
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It is important, however, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Substitute the word "Jesus" in your post with the word "consciousness", and you'll find that the same argument can be applied.


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Methinks you've got a lot of new agey crappola floating around the brain.
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Yes.

It would be easier for you to slap a label on me and call it a day.

No doubt about that.

Thinking and learning is challenging.

So, "mail it in". Be my guest. thumbs


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Bowman be careful because you will be posting with Lucifer in nethanderal state.
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Again, the irony is that this religious thread was posted by an atheist. Me thinks you guys love debating this topic or you'd just leave the Christians to their threads instead of always interacting and making new ones about how much you feel they are bullshit. Obsess much.
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And then they WONDER why Christians would have the "audacity" to come here and defend their beliefs.

They accuse us of everything under the sun. They provoke, and attack, ridicule, and then marvel when they are treated with disrespect in return.

It is THEY who are the ultimate hypocrites, and agitators.
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Yep. and then you try to provide them with resources and evidence to consider that we may be on to something, and they decide to remain completely ignorant and close minded. It's called militant atheism, they are more interested in creating a scene, belittling, and accusing, just like their daddy, satan.
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Well to me, that's the funny part. They do a wonderful job of proving the bible to be right, and accurate, by their OWN behavior.

These people are excellent at helping to fulfill bible prophecy. I want to thank them for helping to strengthen my faith!
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lol right?
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Here's a question for the Christians in this thread.

If you could disprove the fundamental belief that we are but accidents and are purposeless creations in a purposeless universe, like what is being taught in school, only that you would need to express this disapproval not through faith terminology, but through modern terminology, would you find it an honorable endeavor to take upon yourself?

In other words, why stick to the same behaviors and mantras that on the whole only cause derision and division when the language and perspective is NOW available to beat the Atheist at their own game using their own terminology?

How could you pass that up?


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It is important, however, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Substitute the word "Jesus" in your post with the word "consciousness", and you'll find that the same argument can be applied.


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Methinks you've got a lot of new agey crappola floating around the brain.
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Yes.

It would be easier for you to slap a label on me and call it a day.

No doubt about that.

Thinking and learning is challenging.

So, "mail it in". Be my guest. thumbs


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Bowman be careful because you will be posting with Lucifer in nethanderal state.
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That is a wise reply. In the beginning when sin went into man, 7 years time and the sense of the beast passed over man. In this current 3D construct, we are headed either towards or may have already started in the seven years of the apocalypse. The sense of the beast will fill the lost when they take the mark of the beast. The end is consistent with the beginning. The sphinx which represents half man and half beast is not there by accident, but put in place with many other things to lure the lost into the darkness past the point of no return. It is why Jesus Christ died for our sins, and is the bridge to eternity. Without him and receiving a name in the Book of Life, you are doomed to receive this mark.

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Here a question for the Christians in this thread.

If you could disprove the fundamental belief that we are but accidents and are purposeless creations in a purposeless universe, like what is being taught in school, only that you would need to express this disapproval not through faith terminology, but through modern terminology, would you find it an honorable endeavor to take upon yourself?

In other words, why stick to the same behaviors and mantras that on the whole only cause derision and division when the language and perspective is NOW available to beat the Atheist at their own game using their own terminology?

How could you pass that up?


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You are delusional. There has been plenty of evidence for our side of the argument throughout this thread, however you guys CHOOSE to be closed minded and though you claim to be open minded are actually very rigid in your belief system. There's nothing more we can tell you. The policy is, plant the seed, and walk away. If God wants the seed to grow, he will water it. If you can't see the truth, there's nothing we can do to show it to you, only in His power.
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As this dark world draws to a close, the mindset and collective thought will become more polarized more to good or bad as the Kingdom of God approaches. Christ said you are either for him or against him or he spew you out of his mouth. In these days, there is less sputum and more alignment to the spirit of the antichrist or the acceptance of Christ as your Savior. The stage is set for the coming grand deception and unfortunately many will take the mark.
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Such insight and intelligence! Not! Your mundane recitation and quoting of hackneyed scripture in defense of your death cult is laughable.

Not everybody trembles at your god's feet!
In fact, much like we laugh at the god of the muslims, we laugh at your pallid and incompetent christ hanging on a tree and driven full of holes.
Pathetic to say the least.

I'm not afraid of your fearsome jehova. In fact I find him quite amusing. Much like I find the 'devil' to be a bit of a joke.

Now, you may feel this to be an 'attack' on you but I assure you it isn't. Well, not in the 'demonic' sense you would believe it to be.

Now, back to your blood and sacrifice...
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Man, you really ARE an evil puke.

Ya know that?
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There is no peace in his heart or mind. His mind is firmly entrenched in the serpent matrix. I could give testimony to what I have experienced in my life, but it would be for naught for his ilk. He does satan's bidding and doesn't even know it. The end product of satanism is nothing as they are thrown into a lake of fire for the second death. It is as much their creation as God's. They chose it. It truly does come down to either accepting life or death on an eternal level. The atheist is in the death camp. It is sad. In Milton's works what does it say at the gates of Hell? "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." The atheist got a headstart in this life.
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This man/woman is blessed to know the truth, and scripture. Amen.
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Here a question for the Christians in this thread.

If you could disprove the fundamental belief that we are but accidents and are purposeless creations in a purposeless universe, like what is being taught in school, only that you would need to express this disapproval not through faith terminology, but through modern terminology, would you find it an honorable endeavor to take upon yourself?

In other words, why stick to the same behaviors and mantras that on the whole only cause derision and division when the language and perspective is NOW available to beat the Atheist at their own game using their own terminology?

How could you pass that up?


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You are delusional. There has been plenty of evidence for our side of the argument throughout this thread, however you guys CHOOSE to be closed minded and though you claim to be open minded are actually very rigid in your belief system. There's nothing more we can tell you. The policy is, plant the seed, and walk away. If God wants the seed to grow, he will water it. If you can't see the truth, there's nothing we can do to show it to you, only in His power.
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You're simply not paying any attention to me whatsoever.

Thread: The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13)

I welcome you to point out my delusion SPECIFICALLY.

How dare you stand in the name of Jesus, then carelessly fling such an insult at me.

Would Jesus use phrases like "our side" and "you guys".

I'm not a group of people. I am a sovereign individual.


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The mathematics have already been discussed in other threads. Start actually learning instead of bitching, the term "one in a million" isn't even close to the chances of you not existing.

After you figure out the probability of your existence, expand that by the probability of each of your parent's existences, and their parents.

The probability that your family and you would be born is far too small to be random, and this shows an intelligent design to our universe. Everything is as it needs to be in this point in time.

I'm not here to call you evil, or a satanist or anything else. We are given free will, it is purely up to us if we wish to grow spiritually or not.
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Here a question for the Christians in this thread.

If you could disprove the fundamental belief that we are but accidents and are purposeless creations in a purposeless universe, like what is being taught in school, only that you would need to express this disapproval not through faith terminology, but through modern terminology, would you find it an honorable endeavor to take upon yourself?

In other words, why stick to the same behaviors and mantras that on the whole only cause derision and division when the language and perspective is NOW available to beat the Atheist at their own game using their own terminology?

How could you pass that up?


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You are delusional. There has been plenty of evidence for our side of the argument throughout this thread, however you guys CHOOSE to be closed minded and though you claim to be open minded are actually very rigid in your belief system. There's nothing more we can tell you. The policy is, plant the seed, and walk away. If God wants the seed to grow, he will water it. If you can't see the truth, there's nothing we can do to show it to you, only in His power.
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You're simply not paying any attention to me whatsoever.

Thread: The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13)

I welcome you to point out my delusion SPECIFICALLY.

How dare you stand in the name of Jesus, then carelessly fling such an insult at me.

Would Jesus use phrases like "our side" and "you guys".

I'm not a group of people. I am a sovereign individual.


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I'm sorry, and yes he would tell you that you are deceived. The truth hurts if your on the wrong side I'm afraid. You are typical militant atheist. I've tried to share the the truth with you and so have many others. There's nothing we can do at this point but pray for you. I certainly want the best for you, but I will not argue with you. Sorry.

I really do hope and pray that God will deal with you mercifully and open your eyes to the the truth. And that goes for all who are deceived. Peace be with you.
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Here a question for the Christians in this thread.

If you could disprove the fundamental belief that we are but accidents and are purposeless creations in a purposeless universe, like what is being taught in school, only that you would need to express this disapproval not through faith terminology, but through modern terminology, would you find it an honorable endeavor to take upon yourself?

In other words, why stick to the same behaviors and mantras that on the whole only cause derision and division when the language and perspective is NOW available to beat the Atheist at their own game using their own terminology?

How could you pass that up?


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You are delusional. There has been plenty of evidence for our side of the argument throughout this thread, however you guys CHOOSE to be closed minded and though you claim to be open minded are actually very rigid in your belief system. There's nothing more we can tell you. The policy is, plant the seed, and walk away. If God wants the seed to grow, he will water it. If you can't see the truth, there's nothing we can do to show it to you, only in His power.
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You're simply not paying any attention to me whatsoever.

Thread: The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13)

I welcome you to point out my delusion SPECIFICALLY.

How dare you stand in the name of Jesus, then carelessly fling such an insult at me.

Would Jesus use phrases like "our side" and "you guys".

I'm not a group of people. I am a sovereign individual.


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I'm sorry, and yes he would tell you that you are deceived. The truth hurts if your on the wrong side I'm afraid. You are typical militant atheist. I've tried to share the the truth with you and so have many others. There's nothing we can do at this point but pray for you. I certainly want the best for you, but I will not argue with you. Sorry.

I really do hope and pray that God will deal with you mercifully and open your eyes to the the truth. And that goes for all who are deceived. Peace be with you.
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Okay. So your just gonna skip right over any critical thinking and go straight into projecting. Noted.

I'm responding in Englsh and so are you. But it's like there are two different conversations going on. chuckle

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So, by your 'logic' then not believing in purple fongoid monsters from saturn must constitute a religion too.
What that amounts to is an infinite number of religions because I'm certain there are many things you don't believe in either...
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The argument and is a straw-man and fallacious. There is not a rich recorded history for purple fongoid monsters or flying spaghetti monsters. 1/3 of the earths population don't believe in them. The purple fongoid religion didn't spread like uncontrollable wildfire to every corner of the globe. You can not in any reasonable fashion look at the lives of a family of purple fongoid believers and say that they are better off believing in a purple fongoid. The core tenants of the purple fondranomicon don't espouse virtues that make make sense for society or the family.

I will break it down in the simplest of terms. The core philosophy of atheistic mortality, despite what you have been told, is evolutionary based survival of the fittest thinking. It is playing to, normalizing and giving into the raw animal instincts that allowed homo sapiens to progress to this point. Believing that these virtues will build a better human as has always been the case. Its a short leap to eliminate "the weak " when resources get tight. It's evolutionary law, the species is made stronger when only the strong propagate. The core philosophy is about self, and believing that you are above your peers and that only your genes are worthy of propagation. Or its maddening decent into nihilistic apathetic pessimism. In either case it is un-intuitive reason and falling for the fallacy of normalcy to believe that intelligence and consciousness don't mark a huge turn in evolutionary progress worthy of a bit more introspection.

The christian philosophy on the other hand postulates an entirely different path. One built around the concept of selflessness. Loving a creator than can not be impersonated by any current living human. One that is personal and needless of any intermediary. Where atheism provides only cold despair filled futility, Christianity provides hope. Where atheism encourages selfish survival at any cost, Christianity postulates coming together and leaning on God, hope and each other.

Instinct indulgent atheistic philosophy is based on hubris and selfishness which is why it feels so Good.

Moral based christian philosophy is based on selflessness and hope which is why is feels so Right.
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I don't want to troll you guys, but it's beyond me how someone can be so simple minded and can't see through all the religious bullshit that's going on on this website. I rarely visit nowadays because the fundamentalists have taken over. Once, I was a famous poster here. But that's long over.

Really? Angels? With wings? A god that is involved in human interaction and choses a certain group of people as his favoured ones. Ridiculous!
Eternal hellfire for the sinners? LOL! How stupid must one be to believe such utter nonsense. The son of god - sent here to be slaughtered, and the mere fact that you chose his slaugtered body as your symbol should give even the dumbest human an idea of the perversity of church.

Has it never occured to you, that you have been fed a lie from the day of your birth and that your so called "religions" are the onl reason for the bad condition, humanity is in.

God has no body and does not chose sides. It's the spark of life in everyone of us, much less and much more at the same time.

But I know you're a lost cause because you are indoctrinated completely with this evil propaganda.

ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS ARE POISON TO THIS EARTH, AND YOU FOLLOWERS WILL BE REMEBERED AS THE EVIL ONES, JUST LIKE THE NAZIS, BY HISTORY.

AND DON'T POST YOUR F U C K I N G BIBLE VERSES TO ME, BECAUSE I REFUSE TO READ THIS POISONOUS CRAP.
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You validate the following passage, OP. Thanks.

I Corinthians 1:27

"But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong."
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So, by your 'logic' then not believing in purple fongoid monsters from saturn must constitute a religion too.
What that amounts to is an infinite number of religions because I'm certain there are many things you don't believe in either...
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The argument and is a straw-man and fallacious. There is not a rich recorded history for purple fongoid monsters or flying spaghetti monsters. 1/3 of the earths population don't believe in them. The purple fongoid religion didn't spread like uncontrollable wildfire to every corner of the globe. You can not in any reasonable fashion look at the lives of a family of purple fongoid believers and say that they are better off believing in a purple fongoid. The core tenants of the purple fondranomicon don't espouse virtues that make make sense for society or the family.

I will break it down in the simplest of terms. The core philosophy of atheistic mortality, despite what you have been told, is evolutionary based survival of the fittest thinking. It is playing to, normalizing and giving into the raw animal instincts that allowed homo sapiens to progress to this point. Believing that these virtues will build a better human as has always been the case. Its a short leap to eliminate "the weak " when resources get tight. It's evolutionary law, the species is made stronger when only the strong propagate. The core philosophy is about self, and believing that you are above your peers and that only your genes are worthy of propagation. Or its maddening decent into nihilistic apathetic pessimism. In either case it is un-intuitive reason and falling for the fallacy of normalcy to believe that intelligence and consciousness don't mark a huge turn in evolutionary progress worthy of a bit more introspection.

The christian philosophy on the other hand postulates an entirely different path. One built around the concept of selflessness. Loving a creator than can not be impersonated by any current living human. One that is personal and needless of any intermediary. Where atheism provides only cold despair filled futility, Christianity provides hope. Where atheism encourages selfish survival at any cost, Christianity postulates coming together and leaning on God, hope and each other.

Instinct indulgent atheistic philosophy is based on hubris and selfishness which is why it feels so Good.

Moral based christian philosophy is based on selflessness and hope which is why is feels so Right.
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^^^ Amen. All one really has to do is look at the big picture and all the prophesy that's been fulfilled from the nature of man, to the the historical, to the persecution of Christians, and the rise and fall of governments. This IS the proof that the Bible is the living breathing Word of God.
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Okay. So your just gonna skip right over any critical thinking and go straight into projecting. Noted.

I'm responding in Englsh and so are you. But it's like there are two different conversations going on. chuckle

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I went through your thread you linked, see this is where the disconnection is...

From what I read (let me know if if read into it the wrong way) is that you do believe in a consciousness and that we transcend beyond materialism and mortal bodies.

Many of the Christians here probably won't agree with me but, when God is referred to, we are truly discussing the Universal Consciousness. Most Christians just associate best with their own mental image of it, and with most paintings pushing a humanoid figure that is what they identify with.

When in reality, God (Allah, Ra, etc.) is purely that energy of the universe, it is something our mortal senses can't comprehend. I can tell you it won't be an old white guy with a beard living in the clouds, but it is a creative and loving energy that is a part of us as much as we are a part of it.
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Okay. So your just gonna skip right over any critical thinking and go straight into projecting. Noted.

I'm responding in Englsh and so are you. But it's like there are two different conversations going on. chuckle

May God forgive you for your misjudgment of me.
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I went through your thread you linked, see this is where the disconnection is...

From what I read (let me know if if read into it the wrong way) is that you do believe in a consciousness and that we transcend beyond materialism and mortal bodies.

Many of the Christians here probably won't agree with me but, when God is referred to, we are truly discussing the Universal Consciousness. Most Christians just associate best with their own mental image of it, and with most paintings pushing a humanoid figure that is what they identify with.

When in reality, God (Allah, Ra, etc.) is purely that energy of the universe, it is something our mortal senses can't comprehend. I can tell you it won't be an old white guy with a beard living in the clouds, but it is a creative and loving energy that is a part of us as much as we are a part of it.
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Well consciousness can't be proven because it can't be directly quantified.

I KNOW that I have consciousness. I just can't prove it to you. But boy, there have been many, many days that I wish I could let people see what I see.

What that thread points out is that there is a structure that wraps around the different stages of the development of human beings since the inception of the universe. And each level is consistently 20 times less than the previous.

That is a PATTERN centered around human consciousness GROWTH.

Which tells us the universe has a motive to develope the GROWTH of human consciousness.

And we can take that pattern to an Atheist and say here, here is an ORDER to the universe in which the human experience IS purposefull.


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