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The hate in here is nauseating
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what hate? disagreement is now equivalent to "hate"? well that is one waty to discourage conversation.
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Who describes themselves as a liberal nowadays? Or even a democrat? Those labels mean nothing to the intelligent sector of the population who lead real lives.
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sorry there is a very real difference between what you believe and what i believe and until someone comes up with other labels, i will stick with tradition.
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fair enough
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FOX news is not right wing, it is just further to the center so in comparison to the usual pap in the media it seems right wing.
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slaphim

Are you serious? You really believe this? Are you just that blind or really just a moron? Fox news is the right wings personal propaganda machine. It is why all their commentators are ex republican politicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25003767


I think so-called left vs right politics is a scam myself, used obviously for institutional control and to control the 'masses', much the way religion is used.

That said, I grew up in the 80s and ALL we got in the so-called mainstream media were leftwing viewpoints. That's it. Broadcast media, the most 'respected' print media, TV media and it's insidious brainwashing, especially of kids and gullible people, Hollywood crap, 'respected' academia, ALL ONLY ESPOUSED POLITICALLY CORRECT LEFTWING SHIT.

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Today, the corporate world and big business have picked up on political correctness [for $ reasons; they make big $ from government subsidies and are obsessed with projecting a 'hip' and 'multicultural' image]. But many of the top executives support Republicans and 'conservative' causes. They just don't practice much of what they preach. THE WHOLE SET-UP, THE STATUS QUO, IS A BIG ASS SCAM.

*liberals promote big government, big social spending projects, big $ for education [what they really mean is big $ for the powerful teacher's unions], $ for this or that.

*'Conservative' so-called leadership claim they are against all these 'liberal' things, but secretly love the big $ from government subsidies, tax breaks, contracts, projects for their congressional district or state.

The 'liberals' get to funnel $ to their hardcore union [mostly public sector union] bitches and their core constituency [mainly females and so-called 'oppressed' minorities, and in need of a lot of government social services]. This is how they keep on getting elected.

The 'conservatives' get their BIG $ from government subsidies, contracts, tax breaks, etc.

A win-win for the liberal/conservative elite and insiders. A loss for everyone else.
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The "tolerant" liberals commenting on this post proves its accuracy.
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5* OP !

I would like to thank the Liberals for giving us the wonderful opportunity to experience another 4 years of Hussein Obummer in power ! slaphim
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The hate in here is nauseating
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It is actually self-loathing.

The Right-wing segment are expert in victimism and the art of incessant weepiness.
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"1) Liberals love science: As Ann Coulter says, "Liberals use the word science exactly as they use the word constitutional.
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The "science" behind current dietary recomendations is my favorite...

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"What's more, the number of misconceptions propagated about the most basic research can be staggering. Researchers will be suitably scientific describing the limitations of their own experiments, and then will cite something as gospel truth because they read it in a magazine. The classic example is the statement heard repeatedly that 95 percent of all dieters never lose weight, and 95 percent of those who do will not keep it off. This will be correctly attributed to the University of Pennsylvania psychiatrist Albert Stunkard, but it will go unmentioned that this statement is based on 100 patients who passed through Stunkard's obesity clinic during the Eisenhower administration"
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The Republican party is dead. Dumb turns people off.
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The hate in here is nauseating
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It is actually self-loathing.

The Right-wing segment are expert in victimism and the art of incessant weepiness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26976120


The 'Left' raised Victimization to an art form. Political Correctness used faux victimization as a convient way to control language and control the masses, so the left/right insiders can reap power,consolidation, monopolization, and most importantly $.
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The hate in here is nauseating
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It is actually self-loathing.

The Right-wing segment are expert in victimism and the art of incessant weepiness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26976120


VICTIMISM?
Right wingers?
They're the ones with the heavy artillery.
I've never seen a right winger with his AR15
on his hip, shivering in fear of a liberal.

Limp wristed left-wing maggots are the weeping willies.
You must be a youngster.
In America the word liberal was welded permanently
to the words "bleeding heart".
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5* OP !

I would like to thank the Liberals for giving us the wonderful opportunity to experience another 4 years of Hussein Obummer in power ! slaphim
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i keep thinking i will wake up and this nightmare will be gone, but no, he's still here.

thanks for the stars. hf
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The Republican party is dead. Dumb turns people off.
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There is NOTHING 'Smart' about Democrats, liberals [sorry, progressives', they're just as banal and duplicitous as the typical 'conservative' or Republican.
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FREE BOOK, exposing the hypocrisy and anti-social/anti-human bias of "conservatives":

[link to deanbaker.net]

The Conservative Nanny State: How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer

A free e-book by Dean Baker (2006)

Read the book: HTML | PDF | Kindle (.AZW) | .MOBI | NOOK (.EPUB) | Buy the paperback | View on Scribd

Economist Dean Baker debunks the myth that conservatives favor the market over government intervention. In fact, conservatives rely on a range of "nanny state" policies that ensure the rich get richer while leaving most Americans worse off. It's time for the rules to change. Sound economic policy should harness the market in ways that produce desirable social outcomes - decent wages, good jobs and affordable health care.

What people are saying about The Conservative Nanny State

"Here is the brutal truth, exposed systematically, methodically, unsparingly. Forget the pork rinds and the hokey Texas twang: Conservative government is government by and for the upper class." --- Thomas Frank, author of What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America

"Dean Baker is one of the most insightful and original economists in Washington. With this book, he exposes the prevailing myth of modern conservatives. They are not for limited government, as they claim. Rather, they are for a government that helps their own. Baker says it is time to balance the books. Government is by all the people, for all the people. It's that simple." --- Jeff Madrick, author of Why Economies Grow: The Forces That Shape Prosperity and How We Can Get Them Working Again

"[The book] examines massive government interventions in the market-including immigration, trade, monetary and intellectual property policy-and notes how they all have the curious effect of making America's wealthiest people even more stupendously rich. And as if this weren't bad enough, Baker has made The Conservative Nanny State available for free as a pdf (or at low cost as a paperback). Clearly he's a madman who'll stop at nothing." --- Jonathan Schwarz, TinyRevolution.com

"Baker knows what the phrase "free market" really means, and in his new book, The Conservative Nanny State (which you can purchase in paperback or download as an e-book free of charge), he lays waste to the notion that American conservatives embrace anything resembling a truly free market. In fact, they're perverse Marxists, using heavy-handed government intervention to redistribute wealth upward." --- Joshua Holland, AlterNet

.........................

[link to deanbaker.net]

THE CONSERVATIVE NANNY STATE

How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer

By Dean Baker

Table of Contents

Introduction

Doctors and Dishwashers: How the Nanny State Creates Good Jobs for Those at the Top

The Workers are Gettting Uppity: Call In the Fed!

The Secret of High CEO Pay and Other Mysteries of the Corporation

Bill Gates - Welfare Mom: How Government Patent and Copyright Monopolies Enrich the Rich and Distort the Economy

Mommy, Joey Owes Me Money: How Bankruptcy Laws Are Bailing Out the Rich

The Rigged Legal Deck: Torts and Takings (The Nanny State Only Gives)

Small Business Babies

Taxes: It's Not Your Money

Don't Make Big Business Compete Against Government Bureaucrats

Conclusion

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771675


You fuckin' twat...

The super wealthy 'conservatives' are JUST as bad as the super wealthy liberals. They are the same type of sociopaths who will lie, cheat, steal, label themselves and label you to get what they want. More money.

The US Federal Government was never intended to be a two party system. During the 1800s the bankers and communists from Europe infiltrated and have worked diligently ever since toward a goal of American domination. They gained control over the central government by means of money control, bribery, crimes against humanity, etc... They set up this two party system, Republicans vs. Democrats, Conservatives vs. Liberals, with its sole purpose being to divide and conquer the American people in order to extract their wealth. The reality of the situation is that we need to dismiss this false two party system as total bullshit. There is only ONE, two-party political system that will ever work: Individualism vs. Collectivism. This is truth. Everything else is a distraction from the truth.


The liberal morons who support the liberals in power are the ABSOLUTE WORST. At least those in power know why they're there, and it sure as hell isn't to serve the American people. Deep down inside, the plebeian liberals believe that humans are so fucking pathetic and useless that they need the government to cater to their every whim.

That's the message I receive from them, when they tell me that the 'under privileged' 'NEED' assistance from the government.

They purport Darwinism as the truth and then turn around to say it doesn't apply to humans... we're special and deserve special treatment and basic welfare... but then at the same time there is no God and nothing divine in humanity... so why are we special? What do we deserve that's special if this is the case?


I'd like to conclude that liberalism is indeed a very serious mental disorder spurred largely by the American Indoctrination 'Higher Education' Institutions we call 'college.' This disorder, in my opinion, is far more dangerous to the American people and to the American way of life than terrorism, cancer or McDonalds.
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There needs to be more division in this country..just not enough lately
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i think there does need to be more division. we on the right will never change the minds of those on the left and the freakin' left will never change anyone on the right. the problem is, i and people like me who believe in small government have to pay for the feel good crap the left comes up with.

i am sick and damn well tired of paying for welfare and all of the other "compassionate" lefty crap.

if the left wants to pay more then go ahead and DO IT!!!! but leave the rest of us alone.
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Seriously!


The fact is the left and their policies could never ever survive without the rest of us trying to stop them and being forced to support them the entire time. Most "rich" indivuals are liberal. Most rich corporations are ran by groups of conservatives.

Obama and the democrats hate the poor far more than the evil greedy corporations, just look at the fiscal cliff policies. Last night Comedy Central aired a brief run down of the plans on their little news program. Look closely at the numbers! The fing dems are cutting more out of entitlements and welfare than the right wing conservatives, it's right there on paper in front of everyone, then they turn around and start screaming about how the conservatives are taking your baby money in an out right lie.

Fact is conservative corporations spend more money on community development and natural conservation then any group of liberals no matter what's they say.

Actions mean more than words but unfortunate these days actions mean nothing without them.
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I was listening to the radio the other day on my way to work.
It was the Shawn Hannity Show. Shawn was having a debate with a Liberal about how much would be fair for the government to tax and to take away from the rich. The lady he was debating wasn't the average joe, she had some fancy title to go along with her name. He was asking her over and over the same question. He was using Mitt Rom as an example to the question.

Her response was " Mitt shouldn't be able to keep all that money, that he makes 100 of millions of dollars and it wasn't fair and that it would be the right of the government to take it because all he would do is end up willing it to his kids some day".

She was persistent about on how he wouldn't need all that money and to give to his kids would be a waste and not the right thing to do. So, Shawn asked her how much would be the right amount to take. She finally said at least 50 percent. Shawn told her well its too late in Cali and NY it would already be over 60+ percent. And that he worked hard for that money and it isn't anyone's right to take his money and if he wanted to give it to his kids he has every right to do so.

She became so agitated, thinking it would be such a waste for him to will all that money to his kids. She felt that all rich people should pay and that the government should tax them all heavily.

Now, I totally understand there are bad people and dishonest rich people out there that became rich maybe by the wrong way doing so. But the overall message of just take away from all the rich as much as they see fit is a message that boggles my mind.

Hannity told her, that he washed dishes, did construction work, build roofs etc etc all the way through college and now that he worked hard and made a substantial amount he would fall under the category for the government to take whatever they wanted. She told him they should pretty much.


I don't know what type of standards or if any that people like that go by anymore. This country was built on free enterprise and capitalism and the right to make it big and have the freedom to do so. Now its no longer that way.

Now its the people that don't want to be accountable, or responsible or reliable for anything and take whatever they want off the backs from the people that are doing the hard work to get where they are today.

With this mindset if everyone in the U.S. just leeched then we wouldn't have anyone left to leech from. They can't grasp the concept the Rich is who employees the poor. I think the keyword is employees. They no longer like the word employer. They just want to take without raising a finger.


Now i do believe not all right wing or left wing people think exactly this way. People are different but if you have to categorize and sum it up in a group, these are the two you would have to split between going with the average.

The sad part is that the money they take or tax the rich so heavily will just go right down the toilet on a government spending project or a kickback or a nanny state project to keep those who are addicted to it not to want to do it any other way because that is what they have become accustom too.
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"1) Liberals love science: As Ann Coulter says, "Liberals use the word science exactly as they use the word constitutional.
 Quoting: davvi


The "science" behind current dietary recomendations is my favorite...

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"What's more, the number of misconceptions propagated about the most basic research can be staggering. Researchers will be suitably scientific describing the limitations of their own experiments, and then will cite something as gospel truth because they read it in a magazine. The classic example is the statement heard repeatedly that 95 percent of all dieters never lose weight, and 95 percent of those who do will not keep it off. This will be correctly attributed to the University of Pennsylvania psychiatrist Albert Stunkard, but it will go unmentioned that this statement is based on 100 patients who passed through Stunkard's obesity clinic during the Eisenhower administration"
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


absolutely, any diet which is high in carbs is going to cause people to gain weight and the "food pyramid" is the biggest joke in the world.
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This whole left/right division is what's wrong with this country. The middle class is getting screwed by both sides. Obamacare screws middleclass on one side while policies that provide tax breaks, loopholes for the rich and run away military spending screw the middle class from the otherside.

The catalyst that drives this division is social issues that have very little to do with the economy or running the country.

Its discusting watching otherwise intelligent people get caught up in this rhetoric and get cussing mad with very little knowledge of whats actually going on.

I've had the oppertunity to participate in a heated discussion between some good friends. One was a Liberal and the other was a conservative. Turned out that when dust settled and actual disscussion took place, my liberal friend was actually a physcial conservative and my conservative friend was actually socially liberal. This of course just an overview and they we're still some differences of opinions but they had far more in common than either believed. The initial heated discussion was mostly FOX news v/s Huffington Post and had very little actual content.
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FOX news is not right wing, it is just further to the center so in comparison to the usual pap in the media it seems right wing.
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slaphim

Are you serious? You really believe this? Are you just that blind or really just a moron? Fox news is the right wings personal propaganda machine. It is why all their commentators are ex republican politicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25003767


You're really that brainwashed...

Keep taking blue pill...
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FREE BOOK, exposing the hypocrisy and anti-social/anti-human bias of "conservatives":

[link to deanbaker.net]

The Conservative Nanny State: How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer

A free e-book by Dean Baker (2006)

Read the book: HTML | PDF | Kindle (.AZW) | .MOBI | NOOK (.EPUB) | Buy the paperback | View on Scribd

Economist Dean Baker debunks the myth that conservatives favor the market over government intervention. In fact, conservatives rely on a range of "nanny state" policies that ensure the rich get richer while leaving most Americans worse off. It's time for the rules to change. Sound economic policy should harness the market in ways that produce desirable social outcomes - decent wages, good jobs and affordable health care.

What people are saying about The Conservative Nanny State

"Here is the brutal truth, exposed systematically, methodically, unsparingly. Forget the pork rinds and the hokey Texas twang: Conservative government is government by and for the upper class." --- Thomas Frank, author of What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America

"Dean Baker is one of the most insightful and original economists in Washington. With this book, he exposes the prevailing myth of modern conservatives. They are not for limited government, as they claim. Rather, they are for a government that helps their own. Baker says it is time to balance the books. Government is by all the people, for all the people. It's that simple." --- Jeff Madrick, author of Why Economies Grow: The Forces That Shape Prosperity and How We Can Get Them Working Again

"[The book] examines massive government interventions in the market-including immigration, trade, monetary and intellectual property policy-and notes how they all have the curious effect of making America's wealthiest people even more stupendously rich. And as if this weren't bad enough, Baker has made The Conservative Nanny State available for free as a pdf (or at low cost as a paperback). Clearly he's a madman who'll stop at nothing." --- Jonathan Schwarz, TinyRevolution.com

"Baker knows what the phrase "free market" really means, and in his new book, The Conservative Nanny State (which you can purchase in paperback or download as an e-book free of charge), he lays waste to the notion that American conservatives embrace anything resembling a truly free market. In fact, they're perverse Marxists, using heavy-handed government intervention to redistribute wealth upward." --- Joshua Holland, AlterNet

.........................

[link to deanbaker.net]

THE CONSERVATIVE NANNY STATE

How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer

By Dean Baker

Table of Contents

Introduction

Doctors and Dishwashers: How the Nanny State Creates Good Jobs for Those at the Top

The Workers are Gettting Uppity: Call In the Fed!

The Secret of High CEO Pay and Other Mysteries of the Corporation

Bill Gates - Welfare Mom: How Government Patent and Copyright Monopolies Enrich the Rich and Distort the Economy

Mommy, Joey Owes Me Money: How Bankruptcy Laws Are Bailing Out the Rich

The Rigged Legal Deck: Torts and Takings (The Nanny State Only Gives)

Small Business Babies

Taxes: It's Not Your Money

Don't Make Big Business Compete Against Government Bureaucrats

Conclusion

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771675


You fuckin' twat...

The super wealthy 'conservatives' are JUST as bad as the super wealthy liberals. They are the same type of sociopaths who will lie, cheat, steal, label themselves and label you to get what they want. More money.

The US Federal Government was never intended to be a two party system. During the 1800s the bankers and communists from Europe infiltrated and have worked diligently ever since toward a goal of American domination. They gained control over the central government by means of money control, bribery, crimes against humanity, etc... They set up this two party system, Republicans vs. Democrats, Conservatives vs. Liberals, with its sole purpose being to divide and conquer the American people in order to extract their wealth. The reality of the situation is that we need to dismiss this false two party system as total bullshit. There is only ONE, two-party political system that will ever work: Individualism vs. Collectivism. This is truth. Everything else is a distraction from the truth.


The liberal morons who support the liberals in power are the ABSOLUTE WORST. At least those in power know why they're there, and it sure as hell isn't to serve the American people. Deep down inside, the plebeian liberals believe that humans are so fucking pathetic and useless that they need the government to cater to their every whim.

That's the message I receive from them, when they tell me that the 'under privileged' 'NEED' assistance from the government.

They purport Darwinism as the truth and then turn around to say it doesn't apply to humans... we're special and deserve special treatment and basic welfare... but then at the same time there is no God and nothing divine in humanity... so why are we special? What do we deserve that's special if this is the case?


I'd like to conclude that liberalism is indeed a very serious mental disorder spurred largely by the American Indoctrination 'Higher Education' Institutions we call 'college.' This disorder, in my opinion, is far more dangerous to the American people and to the American way of life than terrorism, cancer or McDonalds.
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excellent thumbs
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5* OP !

I would like to thank the Liberals for giving us the wonderful opportunity to experience another 4 years of Hussein Obummer in power ! slaphim
 Quoting: subzero86


i keep thinking i will wake up and this nightmare will be gone, but no, he's still here.

thanks for the stars. hf
 Quoting: davvi


Tell me about it...I can't shake the nauseating feeling I got on Nov 6th !
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I was listening to the radio the other day on my way to work.
It was the Shawn Hannity Show. Shawn was having a debate with a Liberal about how much would be fair for the government to tax and to take away from the rich. The lady he was debating wasn't the average joe, she had some fancy title to go along with her name. He was asking her over and over the same question. He was using Mitt Rom as an example to the question.

Her response was " Mitt shouldn't be able to keep all that money, that he makes 100 of millions of dollars and it wasn't fair and that it would be the right of the government to take it because all he would do is end up willing it to his kids some day".

She was persistent about on how he wouldn't need all that money and to give to his kids would be a waste and not the right thing to do. So, Shawn asked her how much would be the right amount to take. She finally said at least 50 percent. Shawn told her well its too late in Cali and NY it would already be over 60+ percent. And that he worked hard for that money and it isn't anyone's right to take his money and if he wanted to give it to his kids he has every right to do so.

She became so agitated, thinking it would be such a waste for him to will all that money to his kids. She felt that all rich people should pay and that the government should tax them all heavily.

Now, I totally understand there are bad people and dishonest rich people out there that became rich maybe by the wrong way doing so. But the overall message of just take away from all the rich as much as they see fit is a message that boggles my mind.

Hannity told her, that he washed dishes, did construction work, build roofs etc etc all the way through college and now that he worked hard and made a substantial amount he would fall under the category for the government to take whatever they wanted. She told him they should pretty much.


I don't know what type of standards or if any that people like that go by anymore. This country was built on free enterprise and capitalism and the right to make it big and have the freedom to do so. Now its no longer that way.

Now its the people that don't want to be accountable, or responsible or reliable for anything and take whatever they want off the backs from the people that are doing the hard work to get where they are today.

With this mindset if everyone in the U.S. just leeched then we wouldn't have anyone left to leech from. They can't grasp the concept the Rich is who employees the poor. I think the keyword is employees. They no longer like the word employer. They just want to take without raising a finger.


Now i do believe not all right wing or left wing people think exactly this way. People are different but if you have to categorize and sum it up in a group, these are the two you would have to split between going with the average.

The sad part is that the money they take or tax the rich so heavily will just go right down the toilet on a government spending project or a kickback or a nanny state project to keep those who are addicted to it not to want to do it any other way because that is what they have become accustom too.
 Quoting: RightWing FTW 26438117


almost every libtard that is interviewed (beckel, williams etc), have come up with this magical 60% number. it is something either in the water that they drink or they are too stupiud to understand, when a government takes more than they allow the earner to keep the earner finds ways to not pay at all. thumbs
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"1) Liberals love science: As Ann Coulter says, "Liberals use the word science exactly as they use the word constitutional.
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The "science" behind current dietary recomendations is my favorite...

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"What's more, the number of misconceptions propagated about the most basic research can be staggering. Researchers will be suitably scientific describing the limitations of their own experiments, and then will cite something as gospel truth because they read it in a magazine. The classic example is the statement heard repeatedly that 95 percent of all dieters never lose weight, and 95 percent of those who do will not keep it off. This will be correctly attributed to the University of Pennsylvania psychiatrist Albert Stunkard, but it will go unmentioned that this statement is based on 100 patients who passed through Stunkard's obesity clinic during the Eisenhower administration"
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absolutely, any diet which is high in carbs is going to cause people to gain weight and the "food pyramid" is the biggest joke in the world.
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Don't forget about sun scare BS...

Vitamin D requirement that was set so low by crappy scientific study, it's taking a very long time to raise requirement to the level where it should be. I often bring that up with libtards and they went psycho over it at CNN websites. I provided papers but that didn't even matter to them! Talk about double standard...

Same for global warming BS.

Of course, there's evolution theory that we don't dare to touch if we find something wrong with it...

Fuck faux libtards.
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5* OP !

I would like to thank the Liberals for giving us the wonderful opportunity to experience another 4 years of Hussein Obummer in power ! slaphim
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i keep thinking i will wake up and this nightmare will be gone, but no, he's still here.

thanks for the stars. hf
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Tell me about it...I can't shake the nauseating feeling I got on Nov 6th !
 Quoting: subzero86


most people who i talk to have decided that they can't fight santa claus with the idea of wroking hard and being independent. most people have decided to trade freedom for freebies.

we have reached the tipping point where there are more parasites then there are hosts.

shame really.
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I was listening to the radio the other day on my way to work.
It was the Shawn Hannity Show. Shawn was having a debate with a Liberal about how much would be fair for the government to tax and to take away from the rich. The lady he was debating wasn't the average joe, she had some fancy title to go along with her name. He was asking her over and over the same question. He was using Mitt Rom as an example to the question.

Her response was " Mitt shouldn't be able to keep all that money, that he makes 100 of millions of dollars and it wasn't fair and that it would be the right of the government to take it because all he would do is end up willing it to his kids some day".

She was persistent about on how he wouldn't need all that money and to give to his kids would be a waste and not the right thing to do. So, Shawn asked her how much would be the right amount to take. She finally said at least 50 percent. Shawn told her well its too late in Cali and NY it would already be over 60+ percent. And that he worked hard for that money and it isn't anyone's right to take his money and if he wanted to give it to his kids he has every right to do so.

She became so agitated, thinking it would be such a waste for him to will all that money to his kids. She felt that all rich people should pay and that the government should tax them all heavily.

Now, I totally understand there are bad people and dishonest rich people out there that became rich maybe by the wrong way doing so. But the overall message of just take away from all the rich as much as they see fit is a message that boggles my mind.


Hannity told her, that he washed dishes, did construction work, build roofs etc etc all the way through college and now that he worked hard and made a substantial amount he would fall under the category for the government to take whatever they wanted. She told him they should pretty much.


I don't know what type of standards or if any that people like that go by anymore. This country was built on free enterprise and capitalism and the right to make it big and have the freedom to do so. Now its no longer that way.

Now its the people that don't want to be accountable, or responsible or reliable for anything and take whatever they want off the backs from the people that are doing the hard work to get where they are today.

With this mindset if everyone in the U.S. just leeched then we wouldn't have anyone left to leech from. They can't grasp the concept the Rich is who employees the poor. I think the keyword is employees. They no longer like the word employer. They just want to take without raising a finger.


Now i do believe not all right wing or left wing people think exactly this way. People are different but if you have to categorize and sum it up in a group, these are the two you would have to split between going with the average.

The sad part is that the money they take or tax the rich so heavily will just go right down the toilet on a government spending project or a kickback or a nanny state project to keep those who are addicted to it not to want to do it any other way because that is what they have become accustom too.
 Quoting: RightWing FTW 26438117



This is the doom must come. Life is to easy and people are to wealthy. The most important thing you can do with wealth is leave it to your family. Whether its a wealth of knowalage or cash. The advancement of civilization is about improvement not redistribution.

The only thing that will save humanity is whipping half of it off the planet, the mentality of those who survive doesn't matter, they will eventually fall into line and work for the betterment of each other and their families once just as humanity has always done. People are insane.
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"1) Liberals love science: As Ann Coulter says, "Liberals use the word science exactly as they use the word constitutional.
 Quoting: davvi


The "science" behind current dietary recomendations is my favorite...

[link to www.nytimes.com]

"What's more, the number of misconceptions propagated about the most basic research can be staggering. Researchers will be suitably scientific describing the limitations of their own experiments, and then will cite something as gospel truth because they read it in a magazine. The classic example is the statement heard repeatedly that 95 percent of all dieters never lose weight, and 95 percent of those who do will not keep it off. This will be correctly attributed to the University of Pennsylvania psychiatrist Albert Stunkard, but it will go unmentioned that this statement is based on 100 patients who passed through Stunkard's obesity clinic during the Eisenhower administration"
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


absolutely, any diet which is high in carbs is going to cause people to gain weight and the "food pyramid" is the biggest joke in the world.
 Quoting: davvi


Don't forget about sun scare BS...

Vitamin D requirement that was set so low by crappy scientific study, it's taking a very long time to raise requirement to the level where it should be. I often bring that up with libtards and they went psycho over it at CNN websites. I provided papers but that didn't even matter to them! Talk about double standard...

Same for global warming BS.

Of course, there's evolution theory that we don't dare to touch if we find something wrong with it...

Fuck faux libtards.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


look at who profited the most with the sun-scare? i believe that everything we do is reflected by which donor, which major corporation will profit from the "scare."
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Another myth = all conservatives are wealthy. Libs love to try and push this narrative.
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Not at all.

Most conservatives are working class or lower middle class. Generally, people with less education, and people of lower intelligence, tend to be conservative.
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The hate in here is nauseating
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Non-rational extremes make you a sure winner. There is a neurochemical payoff in the amygdhala, the primitive instinctive part of the brain that once served two purposes. To keep tribal foragers away from the mouth of your cave, and when your mate won't f*ck you because of your unremitting stench, as an alternative to bathing twist the neck of your latest noisy newborn in protest.

This is Soothe a Rethuglican Day. Throw one a nice meaty bone from a good distance.
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The hate in here is nauseating
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It is actually self-loathing.

The Right-wing segment are expert in victimism and the art of incessant weepiness.
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Whatever you say, baby killer.
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Another myth = all conservatives are wealthy. Libs love to try and push this narrative.
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Not at all.

Most conservatives are working class or lower middle class. Generally, people with less education, and people of lower intelligence, tend to be conservative.
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Lame stereotype. You get that BS from Media Matters?
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The hate in here is nauseating
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Non-rational extremes make you a sure winner. There is a neurochemical payoff in the amygdhala, the primitive instinctive part of the brain that once served two purposes. To keep tribal foragers away from the mouth of your cave, and when your mate won't f*ck you because of your unremitting stench, as an alternative to bathing twist the neck of your latest noisy newborn in protest.

This is Soothe a Rethuglican Day. Throw one a nice meaty bone from a good distance.
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In the meanwhile, you love talking about killing unborn babies...

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