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Message Subject 5 Myths Liberals Have Created About Themselves
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Liberals who push for redistribution of wealth are headed for a sad awakening. When they discover that since most everyone in the western civilized world is wealthier than the great unwashed masses living in 3rd or 4th world countries, THEIR wealth is also being targeted to be stolen by Obama & the UN in the name of 'equality'.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Almost true. But, "their" wealth cannot quite be stolen, since it was stolen from the rest of the world to begin with. The middle class (and to a lesser extent the workers and the poor) in the U.S. have been the beneficiaries of a global empire that has successfully looted everywhere/everyone. A great big party for us, over the last couple centuries! And continuing right up to the present moment, at which the rest of the world is still lending us $billions (i.e. giving us real good stuff in exchange for our dollars) EVERY DAY. But the rest of the world is starting to wake up. This dollar-based pillaging will not continue. They want their piece of the pie. Who can blame them?

PS: The U.N. will not be an important part of it. And Obama is of course just a puppet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771675


Can't completely disagree with you on issues raised in your post. But the question of 'reparations' is a tough one. How far back in time does one go to achieve some sort of parity or basis for this?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog

As far as it takes. Theft is theft. Murder is murder. Where's the statute of limitations? Should perps get a free pass after 10 years? 20? 50?

People in the United States have prospered by virtue of having had a democratic republic form of government with a Bill Of Rights, something other countries do not have. If we had not had this, I doubt if anyone other than those at the top in this country would have been able to amass what wealth the average American does possess.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog

A favorite self-congratulatory American myth, but false. We prospered by virtue of stealing a very natural-resource-rich continent from other people. Then, the capital wealth thus generated was devoted to building up an industrial base which was in turn applied to building a vast military (and non-military) structure to rule the world, and pillage ever-more wealth from everywhere. And it worked! We all got filthy rich. But not for much longer.

Also,(in my opinion) the world is controlled, in varying degrees, by corrupt despotic governments who are not likely to give the general populace much of anything more than a pittance that they might receive any redistribution of wealth. Look what happens to much of the US foreign aid even now; like pouring money down a rat hole.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog

Oh, more than a pittance. For example: the Chinese government may be corrupt and despotic as you say, but they are busy supervising the creation of vast wealth which is indeed being enjoyed, in fair measure, by hundreds of millions of formerly desperately poor people. They are on a trajectory to overtake us, and it won't take a century. Maybe two decades. And huge new middle and upper classes are being created, in the process. They are not fools. They know that you NEED a big middle class to grow a modern economy.

I do not think people outside the US are 'starting to wake up' so much as an ongoing consolidated effort by a select few who have aspirations of controlling the whole world are intensifying their propaganda efforts. The middle classes of the western civilized world are standing in their way.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog

The middle classes of the West are not standing in anyone's way. They are superfluous, deadweight, about to be jettisoned.

Yes, people outside the U.S. certainly ARE waking up. They are making more money than ever, eating better, living better, and there is a relentless demand for MORE from them. They see the TV images that you see -- of fine cars, houses, etc., and they want it. And they will get it, just like you got it. The "select few who have aspirations of controlling the whole world" will give it to them, just like they gave it to you. They will be useful idiots, just as you were, and will not ask too many questions about where the goodies are coming from. Their loyalty will be bought, just as it was bought from you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771675

If the UN won't even be involved as all these non-USans "wake up", what exactly (or approximately) do you think they will do and how will they do it?

You're right about this being a resource-rich continent. It's kind of unfair, but because of the resources and a better-than-average form of government (I won't assert more than that; it should be uncontroversial) we had economic success and attracted more very desirable immigrants along with less desirable ones. Further immigrant pickups were done strategically around WWII (Jewish immigration before the war, German immigration (Operation Paperclip) afterward, both groups having high IQ.)

And unfair as all that is, now it's happening again. Lately everyone is agreeing, even the WSJ, that an economic boom is coming from exploitation of "tight oil" as well as "tight natgas" on this continent. Europe doesn't have this, China doesn't, nor the Middle East, as far as I know. It seems to be mainly North America.

Even China is moving jobs back here. Looks like another American century.

The last one wasn't so bad. We invented the airplane, helped develop the car, developed electric lightbulbs, radios and transmission, invented the transistor, invented computers and the internet, and so on.

We did some bad shit too, but the above list of contributions to mankind is pretty Godlike wouldn't you agree? The whole rest of the world put together was vastly less productive in creating breakthrough technologies to benefit humanity.
 
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