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The First Freemen Were Not Freemasons

 
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The first freemen were not freemasons, but Bedesmen.

These Royal Bedesmen were the first in history to wear both a dark blue gown with a Tudor Roses on their chests who also carried Badges that were issued by the King which was an identifying insignia worn by beggars at the time in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland. These badges were inscribed with the writing, “Pass and Re-Pass” that acted as an ancient top-secret security clearance. These were issued by the Royal House in the country which these Bedesmen had lived that gave these chosen men the rite to freely beg which was against the law at the time, but they were also the first true Freeman who were allowed by the King to move freely from place to place.

At the time, most citizens were simply not allowed to travel outside their respective hometowns. Therefor, not only would the Bedesmen be the predecessors to the Knights Templar, the descendants of this ancient fraternity would later form the Hospitallers, Rosicrucians and Freemasons which all branch from the same rose-bush via the City of the Rose, Petra which was at one time was our first banking operation and Treasury.

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yeah well.. today its a modern day free pass! i refuse you and will become what you have always claimed to protect.
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yeah well.. today its a modern day free pass! i refuse you and will become what you have always claimed to protect.
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The equivalent today would be being knighted by the Queen. What do we protect that is so bad?

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Back in the ninth century, the original Templars were simply known as the ”Poor Knights of the Temple” or the “Bedesmen.” They were the predecessors to Saint Cuthbert and their founder, Saint Bede who they were named after. These Poor Knights would be the first official Templars who were in all the cathedrals of the New Foundation in the time shortly after Saint Columba of Iona in the sixth century.

This was when the Irish and Scottish Celtic Druid Church who were called Culdees had joined the Roman Church to then become the official Universal Brotherhood, or what we know today as the Catholic Church. A time when Petra (Saint Peter) was made the rock of the church and Jesus the Grand Master or Cornerstone was made Christ of the new foundation in which these Bedesmen were given the task of saying prayers for the founder, Kings and knights under the Temple of Solomon and Rosy-Cross of the new law which we know as the New Testament.

It was Saint Bede in the 9th century who was a Scottish born Levite and the first brother who had given us the spiritual story of the Temple of Solomon into a new format for the New Foundation of the brotherhood that was formed under the Universal Church. The name of the medieval book is De Tabernaculo and De Templo. In the book Bede had laid out the blue prints for the new brotherhood plan for Jerusalem, AKA the church. This plan included the tribes of Boaz and Jachin, but also for the first time worthy gentiles whom in the story are referred to as Masons that are the living stones of the Temple.
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INteresting info, Thanks.

I know a few holding Templar Christian mass in NY. Rosicrucian Brothers and Sisters picking it up though I havn't seen any activity recently.

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I don't know much about what you have posted but I saw you previous posting smart posts and I love your avatar pic hf
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INteresting info, Thanks.

I know a few holding Templar Christian mass in NY. Rosicrucian Brothers and Sisters picking it up though I havn't seen any activity recently.

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My pleasure Frater and thanks for the information.

The most interesting fact for Rosicrucians will be the fact that this would be the first order in the history of the brotherhood where one document a Tudor Rose being worn by the brotherhood with this order of Bedesmen.

As I AM sure you well know, Francis Bacon was very instrumental in the formation of this order and what you may not know is that Bacon had held Saint Bede in high esteem. One can say that Bacon was carrying the torch that at one time Bede had carried for the Brotherhood of the Rose.hf
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I don't know much about what you have posted but I saw you previous posting smart posts and I love your avatar pic hf
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I appreciate the kind words. You will find that often say things that are off the conspiracy grid or are completely new and revealing where some of my posts are purposely buried and or even hidden. Most of it will fly over 99.9% of the people's heads, but it is that .1% that the Adjustment Bureau is deciding who sees it and who does not.


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I know that rose has significance as rose petals form a spiral.

(The Spiral is a common natural form and an ancient mystical symbol, occurring in shells, galaxies, DNA, whirlpools and countless other instances. In two dimensions, a spiral is a curve that winds around a fixed point at a continuously increasing or decreasing distance from that point, and esoterically it represents evolution, self-transformation and the forces and patterns underlying creation.)


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(The Rose Cross is a momentous symbol in the Western Mystery Tradition, originating with the Rosicrucians and incorporating elements of the Kabbalah, alchemy, astrology and esoteric Christianity, among others. Each Rose Cross contains another Rose Cross at its center, symbolizing the microcosm that mirrors the macrocosm.)

They love roses for a reason.

INteresting info, Thanks.

I know a few holding Templar Christian mass in NY. Rosicrucian Brothers and Sisters picking it up though I havn't seen any activity recently.

Frater
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My pleasure Frater and thanks for the information.

The most interesting fact for Rosicrucians will be the fact that this would be the first order in the history of the brotherhood where one document a Tudor Rose being worn by the brotherhood with this order of Bedesmen.

As I AM sure you well know, Francis Bacon was very instrumental in the formation of this order and what you may not know is that Bacon had held Saint Bede in high esteem. One can say that Bacon was carrying the torch that at one time Bede had carried for the Brotherhood of the Rose.hf
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I know that rose has significance as rose petals form a spiral.

(The Spiral is a common natural form and an ancient mystical symbol, occurring in shells, galaxies, DNA, whirlpools and countless other instances. In two dimensions, a spiral is a curve that winds around a fixed point at a continuously increasing or decreasing distance from that point, and esoterically it represents evolution, self-transformation and the forces and patterns underlying creation.)


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(The Rose Cross is a momentous symbol in the Western Mystery Tradition, originating with the Rosicrucians and incorporating elements of the Kabbalah, alchemy, astrology and esoteric Christianity, among others. Each Rose Cross contains another Rose Cross at its center, symbolizing the microcosm that mirrors the macrocosm.)

They love roses for a reason.

INteresting info, Thanks.

I know a few holding Templar Christian mass in NY. Rosicrucian Brothers and Sisters picking it up though I havn't seen any activity recently.

Frater
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My pleasure Frater and thanks for the information.

The most interesting fact for Rosicrucians will be the fact that this would be the first order in the history of the brotherhood where one document a Tudor Rose being worn by the brotherhood with this order of Bedesmen.

As I AM sure you well know, Francis Bacon was very instrumental in the formation of this order and what you may not know is that Bacon had held Saint Bede in high esteem. One can say that Bacon was carrying the torch that at one time Bede had carried for the Brotherhood of the Rose.hf
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The Rose is symbolic of our soul and it is the symbol of dawn after we awake from the darkness to liberate our soul as our old animal ways die on the cross. The microcosm us humans who mirror the macrocosm. As Above, So Below and As Within, So Without.

Albert Pike pic This next statement by Pike will help put my darkness comment in perspective for you.

"The ROSE, was anciently sacred to Aurora and the Sun. It is a symbol of Dawn, of the resurrection of Light and the renewal of life, and therefore of the dawn of the first day, and more particularly of the resurrection: and the Cross and Rose together are therefore hieroglyphically to be read, the Dawn of Eternal Life which all Nations have hoped for by the advent of a Redeemer."

In 1871, Albert Pike wrote this about the 18th degree of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite titled, "Knight Rose Croix".

The Degree of Rose Cross teaches three things;—the unity, immutability and goodness of God; the immortality of the Soul; and the ultimate defeat and extinction of evil and wrong and sorrow, by a Redeemer or Messiah, yet to come, if he has not already appeared.

It is obvious based on the prophecy of Pope Clement XIII and the statements of facts above made by Albert Pike in regards to the 18th degree of the Scottish Rite that both the Vatican and Freemasns expect a Redeemer or Messiah that is allegedly to come save humanity from the darkness. Yes, save humnaity from the darkness.
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Lies, lies and more lies. The druids taught your kind nothing, they oppose everything your pyramid scheme against humanity represents.
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Lies, lies and more lies. The druids taught your kind nothing, they oppose everything your pyramid scheme against humanity represents.
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We were the druids as well before we converted to a less barbaric way of life that didn't include blood offerings and human sacrifices. We became Culdees to separate ourselves from these inhumane acts of cruelty by our fellow Druids.

This is where the great divide had occurred in the brotherhood. One who chose the higher road of the soul, life and love and those who chose to stay on the lower road of death, fear and heathenism.

We turned blood into wine and flesh into bread for the sake of humanity and what a mighty fine job we have done thus far even though we have a long way to go.

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The first freemen were not freemasons, but Bedesmen.

These Royal Bedesmen were the first in history to wear both a dark blue gown with a Tudor Roses on their chests who also carried Badges that were issued by the King which was an identifying insignia worn by beggars at the time in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland. These badges were inscribed with the writing, “Pass and Re-Pass” that acted as an ancient top-secret security clearance. These were issued by the Royal House in the country which these Bedesmen had lived that gave these chosen men the rite to freely beg which was against the law at the time, but they were also the first true Freeman who were allowed by the King to move freely from place to place.

At the time, most citizens were simply not allowed to travel outside their respective hometowns. Therefor, not only would the Bedesmen be the predecessors to the Knights Templar, the descendants of this ancient fraternity would later form the Hospitallers, Rosicrucians and Freemasons which all branch from the same rose-bush via the City of the Rose, Petra which was at one time was our first banking operation and Treasury.

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HEY LOOK IT'S MR "I REPRESENT THE ALL SEEING EYE OF LUCIFER WITH MY ICON, AND THE ILLUMINATI WITH MY NAME."

Sad sad day...
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Lies, lies and more lies. The druids taught your kind nothing, they oppose everything your pyramid scheme against humanity represents.
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what is it then you may believe that was taught?

to make such an accusation, one must give fact to support. please explain how it is that you believe they have strayed form what is the truth?
As always, look beyond what the eye can see.
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The first freemen were not freemasons, but Bedesmen.

These Royal Bedesmen were the first in history to wear both a dark blue gown with a Tudor Roses on their chests who also carried Badges that were issued by the King which was an identifying insignia worn by beggars at the time in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland. These badges were inscribed with the writing, “Pass and Re-Pass” that acted as an ancient top-secret security clearance. These were issued by the Royal House in the country which these Bedesmen had lived that gave these chosen men the rite to freely beg which was against the law at the time, but they were also the first true Freeman who were allowed by the King to move freely from place to place.

At the time, most citizens were simply not allowed to travel outside their respective hometowns. Therefor, not only would the Bedesmen be the predecessors to the Knights Templar, the descendants of this ancient fraternity would later form the Hospitallers, Rosicrucians and Freemasons which all branch from the same rose-bush via the City of the Rose, Petra which was at one time was our first banking operation and Treasury.

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Thanks for posting, I have been trying to figure out what the rose meant. My forefathers where nights and barons, but the rose did not add up because this was pre-tudor.
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You claim Bede was a Levite. This is plausible, however are you sure he was not a Benjaminite?

His kind belonged to the Clan of the Wolf. Wolf is symbolic for the Tribe of Benjamin.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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just know that a whole generation of norwegians might hate your club because of what breivik did :(
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The first freemen were not freemasons, but Bedesmen.

These Royal Bedesmen were the first in history to wear both a dark blue gown with a Tudor Roses on their chests who also carried Badges that were issued by the King which was an identifying insignia worn by beggars at the time in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland. These badges were inscribed with the writing, “Pass and Re-Pass” that acted as an ancient top-secret security clearance. These were issued by the Royal House in the country which these Bedesmen had lived that gave these chosen men the rite to freely beg which was against the law at the time, but they were also the first true Freeman who were allowed by the King to move freely from place to place.

At the time, most citizens were simply not allowed to travel outside their respective hometowns. Therefor, not only would the Bedesmen be the predecessors to the Knights Templar, the descendants of this ancient fraternity would later form the Hospitallers, Rosicrucians and Freemasons which all branch from the same rose-bush via the City of the Rose, Petra which was at one time was our first banking operation and Treasury.

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HEY LOOK IT'S MR "I REPRESENT THE ALL SEEING EYE OF LUCIFER WITH MY ICON, AND THE ILLUMINATI WITH MY NAME."

Sad sad day...
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you mad too
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just know that a whole generation of norwegians might hate your club because of what breivik did :(
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Friend, Bede is Kin to Galloway. Both Galloway and Man are rightfully of the Kingdom of the Isles.

Much has happened. Maybe to much to fix. Don't hate on an entire group without knowing its past. The Knights have done much for Norway and Norway much for them, they are kin.

It is my opinion that some get information that is too much for their minds to understand. Whether that comes from the Holy spirit or the Devil, i do not yet comprehend.

They take this and hatred followed by greed develops this in their mind. They key is to let go of all that was lost, if we deserve a reward, it will be granted by our Lord.

Such is how kings are made.

In real life, one should hate the player, not the game.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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you mad too
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OP: Can you substantiate your "Bede" was a "Levite" claim?

Its more important than you may know.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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The first freemen were not freemasons, but Bedesmen.

These Royal Bedesmen were the first in history to wear both a dark blue gown with a Tudor Roses on their chests who also carried Badges that were issued by the King which was an identifying insignia worn by beggars at the time in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland. These badges were inscribed with the writing, “Pass and Re-Pass” that acted as an ancient top-secret security clearance. These were issued by the Royal House in the country which these Bedesmen had lived that gave these chosen men the rite to freely beg which was against the law at the time, but they were also the first true Freeman who were allowed by the King to move freely from place to place.

At the time, most citizens were simply not allowed to travel outside their respective hometowns. Therefor, not only would the Bedesmen be the predecessors to the Knights Templar, the descendants of this ancient fraternity would later form the Hospitallers, Rosicrucians and Freemasons which all branch from the same rose-bush via the City of the Rose, Petra which was at one time was our first banking operation and Treasury.

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Thanks for posting, I have been trying to figure out what the rose meant. My forefathers where nights and barons, but the rose did not add up because this was pre-tudor.
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My pleasure and from my understanding the rose had originated in the time when the Brotherhood was in Umbria. This is where we get the Rosa Umbriae ("The rose of Umbria"). "The rose of Umbria" were the most famous prophecies of the Irish born Saint Malachy.



Malachy's true name was Maelmhaedhoc O’Morgair, He was born in the year 1094 and died in St. Bernard of Clairvaux's arms in 1148. In the year 1128, Bernard assisted at the Council of Troyes, at which he traced the outlines of the Rule of the Knights Templar, who soon became the ideal of Christian nobility.

This is why my Brother.

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Interesting topic, but true; rather a knight than a beggar.
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You claim Bede was a Levite. This is plausible, however are you sure he was not a Benjaminite?

His kind belonged to the Clan of the Wolf. Wolf is symbolic for the Tribe of Benjamin.
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OP: Can you substantiate your "Bede" was a "Levite" claim?

Its more important than you may know.
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Yes, but this will take a little faith in me from the Brotherhood because of what happened after Bede's death. Based on my intuition and research, his writings, prophecies and life have been one of the greatest conspiracies since the inception of the Catholic Church.

You see Bede was also known as Johannes Scotus Eriugena, AKA Alcuin & Albinus (which means friend of the Temple) at the time and Johannes/Alcuin/Albinus was King Charlemagne's Grand Preceptor. Which of course would make Saint Bede Charlemagne's Grand Preceptor because they are all one and the same persons.

Saint Bede studied under Saint Benedict who I belive to be Cuthbert and it is alleged that this Alcuin was to have studied under Bede. If you study this time period, you will clearly come to the conclusion that this was when the Irish,Scottish and British Celtic Churches and Tribes in mass had adjoined with Rome making Bede, AKA John the Scot one of the most instrumental 'high priests' who not only helped transcribe the bible from Greek and Latin to Old English, he also had given to Freemasons and Templars the blue prints for Solomon's Temple.

In researching Saint Benedict, Saint Bede and Alcuin who were all family they were all referenced as Levites by several ancient sources that I will list below for your own verification.
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Levites in the Catholic Church

The Treatise of the Creation of the first Man, is inserted entire into the Book of the Spirit and '1 ?t* the Soul. It is among St. Ambrose s V Vorks,entituled a Treatise of the Dignity of the first Man; t.s5 and among Alcuinus's it is intituled, "Thoughts of the Blessed Albinus a Levite, upon these- words printed fn of Genesis, Let us make Man after our own Image.

Bede's dictation the last chapter of St. John. In the evening when the boy said, "There is still one sentence not finished," he said, " Well, write it," and a little while afterwards the boy said, " Now it is finished," and he said, "Yes, you have spoken truly. It is finished," and so died singing the Gloria. It may seem unkind to throw doubt on this story over which much sentimental rhetoric has been expended. But there are several suspicious features about it. Imprimis, as regards external authority, it is derived only from a St. Gall manuscript of the ninth century. Secondly, as regards internal evidence, is it only a strange coincidence that Bede's Prosody is dedicated "ad Wigbertum levitam," and at the end contains an inscription by Bede to Cuthbert, his co-Levite

The Schools of Medieval England
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Bede : a Biblical Miscellany - Page xxi

... was addressed to Hwaetberht, the able and energetic monk of Jarrow who visited Rome and succeeded Ceolfrith in 7 1 6 as Bede's 'most beloved abbot'.2 He offered to his 'dearest son and fellow Levite, Cuthbert' his On the Art of Metrics?

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Cassell's library of English literature, selected, ed. and ... - Page 12 By Cassell, ltd, Henry Morley - 1883 - Read - More editions

The torch passed from Bede to Alcuin, born, probably, in the year of the death of Bede, a.d. 735. Alcuin, like Canlinon and Bede, was a North countryman. He was taken as an ... His phrase for himself was " the humble Levite."

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Holy matrimony: a treatise on the divine laws of marriage - Page 391

Oscar Daniel Watkins - 1895 - Read - More editions
Benedict the Levite compiled a collection of canons and Benedict other authoritative utterances about the year 847 a.d. He the Lev" sums up altogether in favour of the indissolubility of marriage :

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Life of Alcuin


Such a character professes external humility. The appellation which Alcuin best liked to bestow upon himself, was that of the humble Levite. He so frequently expressed a distrust of his own powers, a readiness to confess his errors, and to learn of others, that it would reflect nothing but honour upon him, were his professions

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Saint Bede studied under Saint Benedict who I belive to be Cuthbert and it is alleged that this Alcuin was to have studied under Bede.

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Thanks, I need time to look into this.

Bede is my kin. My forfathers, by gods grace; Lords, Kirkcudbright and protectors of Galloway.

The Holy Spirit told me and our kin were of "the clan of the wolf" (taken to be Benjaminites, of Soloman("Son of Man"))

However my research shows also that there is a strong possibility that we descend from the Levites.

Though that in itself poses an issue as we are tied to Galilee/Galloway/Mons.

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You claim Bede was a Levite. This is plausible, however are you sure he was not a Benjaminite?

His kind belonged to the Clan of the Wolf. Wolf is symbolic for the Tribe of Benjamin.
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My understanding is that his clan is now Mountbatten.

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The first freemen were not freemasons, but Bedesmen.

These Royal Bedesmen were the first in history to wear both a dark blue gown with a Tudor Roses on their chests who also carried Badges that were issued by the King which was an identifying insignia worn by beggars at the time in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland. These badges were inscribed with the writing, “Pass and Re-Pass” that acted as an ancient top-secret security clearance. These were issued by the Royal House in the country which these Bedesmen had lived that gave these chosen men the rite to freely beg which was against the law at the time, but they were also the first true Freeman who were allowed by the King to move freely from place to place.

At the time, most citizens were simply not allowed to travel outside their respective hometowns. Therefor, not only would the Bedesmen be the predecessors to the Knights Templar, the descendants of this ancient fraternity would later form the Hospitallers, Rosicrucians and Freemasons which all branch from the same rose-bush via the City of the Rose, Petra which was at one time was our first banking operation and Treasury.

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Bull and SHIT !! If any of this is true it isnt the part about Scotland,thi8s may well have been a law in England but it sure as hell wasnt in Scotland.... and if your info is so off with that whats the chance of the rest of it being true ?
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You claim Bede was a Levite. This is plausible, however are you sure he was not a Benjaminite?

His kind belonged to the Clan of the Wolf. Wolf is symbolic for the Tribe of Benjamin.
 Quoting: Son of the Isle


OP: Can you substantiate your "Bede" was a "Levite" claim?

Its more important than you may know.
 Quoting: Son of the Isle


Yes, but this will take a little faith in me from the Brotherhood because of what happened after Bede's death. Based on my intuition and research, his writings, prophecies and life have been one of the greatest conspiracies since the inception of the Catholic Church.

You see Bede was also known as Johannes Scotus Eriugena, AKA Alcuin & Albinus (which means friend of the Temple) at the time and Johannes/Alcuin/Albinus was King Charlemagne's Grand Preceptor. Which of course would make Saint Bede Charlemagne's Grand Preceptor because they are all one and the same persons.

Saint Bede studied under Saint Benedict who I belive to be Cuthbert and it is alleged that this Alcuin was to have studied under Bede. If you study this time period, you will clearly come to the conclusion that this was when the Irish,Scottish and British Celtic Churches and Tribes in mass had adjoined with Rome making Bede, AKA John the Scot one of the most instrumental 'high priests' who not only helped transcribe the bible from Greek and Latin to Old English, he also had given to Freemasons and Templars the blue prints for Solomon's Temple.

In researching Saint Benedict, Saint Bede and Alcuin who were all family they were all referenced as Levites by several ancient sources that I will list below for your own verification.
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Levites in the Catholic Church

The Treatise of the Creation of the first Man, is inserted entire into the Book of the Spirit and '1 ?t* the Soul. It is among St. Ambrose s V Vorks,entituled a Treatise of the Dignity of the first Man; t.s5 and among Alcuinus's it is intituled, "Thoughts of the Blessed Albinus a Levite, upon these- words printed fn of Genesis, Let us make Man after our own Image.

Bede's dictation the last chapter of St. John. In the evening when the boy said, "There is still one sentence not finished," he said, " Well, write it," and a little while afterwards the boy said, " Now it is finished," and he said, "Yes, you have spoken truly. It is finished," and so died singing the Gloria. It may seem unkind to throw doubt on this story over which much sentimental rhetoric has been expended. But there are several suspicious features about it. Imprimis, as regards external authority, it is derived only from a St. Gall manuscript of the ninth century. Secondly, as regards internal evidence, is it only a strange coincidence that Bede's Prosody is dedicated "ad Wigbertum levitam," and at the end contains an inscription by Bede to Cuthbert, his co-Levite

The Schools of Medieval England
By Arthur Francis Leach

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Bede : a Biblical Miscellany - Page xxi

... was addressed to Hwaetberht, the able and energetic monk of Jarrow who visited Rome and succeeded Ceolfrith in 7 1 6 as Bede's 'most beloved abbot'.2 He offered to his 'dearest son and fellow Levite, Cuthbert' his On the Art of Metrics?

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Cassell's library of English literature, selected, ed. and ... - Page 12 By Cassell, ltd, Henry Morley - 1883 - Read - More editions

The torch passed from Bede to Alcuin, born, probably, in the year of the death of Bede, a.d. 735. Alcuin, like Canlinon and Bede, was a North countryman. He was taken as an ... His phrase for himself was " the humble Levite."

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Holy matrimony: a treatise on the divine laws of marriage - Page 391

Oscar Daniel Watkins - 1895 - Read - More editions
Benedict the Levite compiled a collection of canons and Benedict other authoritative utterances about the year 847 a.d. He the Lev" sums up altogether in favour of the indissolubility of marriage :

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Life of Alcuin


Such a character professes external humility. The appellation which Alcuin best liked to bestow upon himself, was that of the humble Levite. He so frequently expressed a distrust of his own powers, a readiness to confess his errors, and to learn of others, that it would reflect nothing but honour upon him, were his professions

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Thanks, I need time to look into this.

Bede is my kin.

The holy spirit told me and our kind were of "the clan of the wolf" (Benjaminites)

My research shows also that there is a strong possibility that we descend from the Levites. Though that in itself poses an issue as we are tied to Galilee/Galloway/Mons.
 Quoting: Son of the Isle


My pleasure and based on my research, Bede descends from Baedan MacCoirill, King of Ulster. Tech- baoithin was the original or uncorrupted form of the name Taugbboyne, and means ' the house of Baithen ;' and it is ... and his successor in the superintendence of the great ecclesiastical establishment of Iona in the Hebrides.

There were thirty kings of the Cruithnigh over Erin and Alban, viz. of the Cruithnigh of Alban, and of Erin, that is the Dalaraidhe. They were from Ollamhan, from whence comes Mur Ollamhan at Tara, to Fiacha, son of Baedan, who fettered the hostages of Erin and Alban. Seven kings of the Cruithnigh of Alban governed Erin at Tara.' Then follow the seven kings of the race of Ir, who are said in the Irish legend to have ruled at Tara.34 The thirty kings of this legend who ruled over Erin and Alban are surely the thirty kings who bore the name of Brude in the previous legend, who also reigned over Erin and Alban during 150 years. In it Finach or Ollfinachta, who precedes them, is said to have taken hostages of the Cruithnigh. In this legend the thirty kings are said to have reigned over Erin and Alban, to Fiacha, son of Baedan, who fettered the hostages of Erin and Alban. Baedan was a king of Dalaradia, who died in 581, and Tighernac records in A.d. 602 the battle of Guile Cail, in which Fiachaidh, son of Baedan, was victorious; and in 608 the death of Fiachach, son of Baedan, by the Cruithnigh.35 These entries relate surely to the event above recorded, and give us a date between 602 and 608 for the termination of the reign of these thirty kings, and 452 or 458 for its commencement. This event no doubt marks the separation of the Irish Picts or Cruithnigh of Dalaradia from all connection with the kingdom of the Picts in Scotland, and their full incorporation into the Irish monarchy.

Celtic Scotland: a history of ancient Alban, Volume 1
By William Forbes Skene


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Bede's Family

Baedan, of Cluain-tuaisceirt, died, 804.
Beda Old

Baedan, son of Muircheartach, joint-king of Ireland, 555, 562, 563.

Baedan, son of N innidh, son of Fearghus Ceannf hoda, slain, 567.

Baeithin, abbot of Beannchair, died, 665.

Baeithin, abbot of Birra, died, 926.

Baeithin, St., son of Brenainn, abbot of IaCholuim-Cille, died, 595.

Baetan, bishop of Inis-Bo-finne, died, 711.

Bactan Mac-Ua-Cormaic, abbot of Cluain-micNois, died, 663.

Baetan, son of Cairell, king of Ulidia, died, 585

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To every cow belongs its calf, Colum Cille said:

0 God, wilt thou not drive off the fog, which envelopes our number,

The host which has deprived us of our livelihood,

The host which proceeds around the cams'!

He is a son of storm who betrays us.

My Druid,—he will not refuse me,—is the Son of God, and may
he side with me;

How grandly he bears his course, the steed of Baedan" before the host;

Power by Baedan of the yellow hair will be borne from Ireland on him [the steed].



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The first freemen were not freemasons, but Bedesmen.

These Royal Bedesmen were the first in history to wear both a dark blue gown with a Tudor Roses on their chests who also carried Badges that were issued by the King which was an identifying insignia worn by beggars at the time in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland. These badges were inscribed with the writing, “Pass and Re-Pass” that acted as an ancient top-secret security clearance. These were issued by the Royal House in the country which these Bedesmen had lived that gave these chosen men the rite to freely beg which was against the law at the time, but they were also the first true Freeman who were allowed by the King to move freely from place to place.

At the time, most citizens were simply not allowed to travel outside their respective hometowns. Therefor, not only would the Bedesmen be the predecessors to the Knights Templar, the descendants of this ancient fraternity would later form the Hospitallers, Rosicrucians and Freemasons which all branch from the same rose-bush via the City of the Rose, Petra which was at one time was our first banking operation and Treasury.

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 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Bull and SHIT !! If any of this is true it isnt the part about Scotland,thi8s may well have been a law in England but it sure as hell wasnt in Scotland.... and if your info is so off with that whats the chance of the rest of it being true ?
Who pinned this CRAP ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29418019


OP is paranoid and deluded, with delusion of grandeur.

He believes he is the reincarnation of all great men and bring back all discussion to him and his "bloodline".

He is a wannabe since the freemasons blackballed him. This rejection fuelled his desire to be important.

The ugly truth is that he's an ex convict, wife beater and notorious internet scammer.

He suffers from heavy apophenia which make him see messages everywhere confirming how important he is.
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You claim Bede was a Levite. This is plausible, however are you sure he was not a Benjaminite?

His kind belonged to the Clan of the Wolf. Wolf is symbolic for the Tribe of Benjamin.
 Quoting: Son of the Isle


My understanding is that his clan is now Mountbatten.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I have been lead to the understanding that the House of Galloway must be restored to original line. The rose of Galloway, Scotland was left with Alan's son, not his daughters.

Alaexander II of Scotland set this in motion when he claimed the Lion as his own and dismantled this ancient house. All based on his own personal greed.

Alan forseen this and tried to establish his sons house with greater ties to the Kingdom of Man. His actions ensured his seed, but most was lost. At least it seems to be.

This should have been mended, though not fixed, with the installment of the Tudor line. It seems that bandage did not take.
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