I can tell you why so many people despise "preppers"

Ohh... I almost forgot...

Enjoy your one-star thread, as well.

Looks like you are all by your lonesome, as everybody with half a brain has given you the rating that you richly deserve.

You're a joke, douchebag.

I just took a look.

66 one star votes... lol

Nothing BUT one star... lol.


And this idiot is STILL convinced that he's a genius.

Typical though, the worlds BIGGEST morons are always convinced that they are "brilliant".

LOL...

Yes, this again is evidence in support of the thread's thesis. People like peace, where it doesn't have to be an all out man against man fight all the time. So when they see preppers say things like this, are the preppers really surprised they are rejected and seen as psychotic? Really?

And the assumption someone is a liberal if they don't want a Mad Max future is hilarious.

And how does that prove anything? So 66 people gave this one star, so what? So you think group opinion is what counts?

I would imagine many preppers look forward to collapse as the only chance their children have to avoid growing up in the libtards new socialist USA.

No offense but this is how preppers come across on GLP at any rate. I've never met a proper one face to face. In fact there are very few preppers in Europe, it seems to mainly be a phenomenon of the USA. I'm sure there are loads of preppers who don't come across as gun crazed selfish douches it's just that these preppers don't visit GLP.

As I have said in this thread, this is a discussion as to why people don't like preppers, and so it has to deal with generalities and appearances. What is being described (and shown in responses on here) is exactly what people don't like.

I think no one has a problem with the boy scout motto of "be prepared." That, however, is only a small aspect of what it takes to be a prepper. Many people are prepared for accidents, but the prepper expects the accident, looks for it, sees it as a thing of good. That is the problem (again, the general appearance is being discussed).

And yes, it is an American thing. There are many factors involved in the creation of preppers, from the cold war and survivalists (fall out shelters, etc), to the rugged individualism and militia ideology...

Well, USA is allot wilder than Europe. In UK you are rarely more than 10-20 miles away from civilization. We have virtually no dangerous animals.

I've heard USA can be quite surprisingly dangerous. Chiggers burrowing into skin if you lie down on someones lawn, Poison ivy plants and bears spring to mind. In the UK I once got stung by a bee. Just doesn't compare does it.

I would suggest that another factor is religion. Now I do not mean that preppers are religiotards, I'm refering more to the effect of religion on the collective socio-media-subconscious. Effectively that widely held beliefs will in some fashion effect the beliefs of even those who don't follow a certain faith.

I dont know what logic you are using to further your point, but I'll reply using just common sense.

I currently have 2500 rounds of .50 cal ammo. I have two 50 gal drums of black powder. I have enough scrap brass and metals to make my own bullets if need be. In other words...an endless supply.
You mention training? Well, if you are a gunny, you have recieved the best training on the planet...period. We are taught to do a field strip in under a minute. We are taught to make our own ammo. Most of all...we are taught how NOT to be caught by opposing forces who are trained to catch us.
The weight of 50 rounds of .50 cal ammo is about 20 lbs. In training, we carry 80 pounds daily.
In a post-apocalyptic world, the government will be a non issue. Who IS this "government" that is gonna magically stop me?

You are indeed missing the point. My war will be agains civvies. Normal people who will shit themselves immediately upon being shot at. They are not trained in anything besides McDonalds and laziness.

Suppose its hard to tell someone that there IS no escape from a trained gunny. You want to be coddled because men nowadays arent tough...theyre some crazy metrosexual nonsense. Youd all like to think you are tough because you have muscles or can fist fight.
Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but I have yet to meet a tough civvy.

You watch CSI and The Expendables and assume its all fun and games. i absolutely gaurantee every single one of you with no military training will piss yourselves and FREEZE when you are shot at. By the time you unfreeze, Ive already made my adjustements and you die.

Government cant help you, your buck shot is a joke, and I cannot wait to come across one of you smarmy ass preppers who has an ar or some nonsense and think you're whatshisname from Book of Eli....you will get a big dose of reality.

To end this crap...just ask any buddy you have in the service if theyd dare even try to find a trained gunny. Theyd laugh at you. We are a different breed.

Also, you watch too many movies lol. Explain to me why exactly I would need a spotter. One must be trained as a spotter before they even train on a .50 cal. A spotter is needed only when you are in a HZ against hostile forces that outnumber yours. Having someone range for you makes shots quicker.
However, Bob Banker and his wife can be taken with ease at 500 yards in about 3 seconds of preparations on my part. Its not like I can shoot a tight group at 1k yards...thats damn near impossible. Im saying that if someone like me wants to assault a house full of civvies...they will have NO chance.

End nonsense.

Quit comparing apples to oranges my friend. The fact remains that most Germans who did the actual killing moved to S.America and were never found. In fact, your reply just solidifies MINE...it doesnt refute it.
The "lynchers" coming for Pol Pot, Hitler, or any other leader were military personel who had gobs and gobs of help from intel gathered, radios, superior firepower, and trained professionals numbering in the millions. Those people couldnt hide anywhere because they are instantly recognizable. Most who did the actual killings NEVER got caught.

Furthermore, how stupid to say," they ALMOST got lynched. But they DIDN'T get lynched at all, did they? Nope. So how can you prove any point using "what ifs" an crap?

Lynchings in a post apocalyptic world would not consist of coordinating military troops with superior hardware to go against some crazy fuck with a gun. Theyd primarily be almost all civilians carrying sidearms and a few rifles...perhaps a pitchfork lol.

Im not tryina come off like Rambo like many posters would have you think. Im just trying to bring to light that civvies, preppers, noone, can stop a gunny from any branch of government no matter what tools you bring.

For example:

If you had a stroke would you want a PhD certified stroke doctor to save your life, or would you let someone with ZERO field knowledge of strokes, who prepped some iodine and homemade stroke meds to take care of you?

Take it further:
If given the choice after a homeland invasion by the Chinese of if you'd rather have 50,000 preppers fighting or 50,000 trained soldiers, whom would you pick? Soldiers of course. Why? Because you KNOW civvies dont have the testicular fortitude to kill anything and get weak at the sight of blood.
I assure you, if you ever get to see someone who has been shot in the head with brain matter leaking out, two things immediately happen after puking. You either go batshit crazy and get committed, or you turn into a dgaf sonofabitch and return the favor.

Every and ALL civilians who see something like that whom have never experienced it, will fall to their knees sobbing and puking like little babies. Thats not a jab, its just fact.

Misuse of the term. I wouldn't call somebody like that a 'prepper'--- you are describing a murdering looter, who DIDN'T bother to prepare for anything.

I'm feeling old today. My grandmother was a prepper. My mother was born in '29. That's 1929. Aluminum foil was used washed and reused. Everything but the oink was used when a hog was slaughtered. Living in a mental state of waste not want not, that is a prepper. Playing video games may increase hand-eye coordination, not sure how it will fill a pot.

Look up "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

Well they will be despised if tsdhtf and it will be because the despisers aint the ones with the food. And sure not all preppers are smiling evily thinking about the time they can kill people, maybe theyre just paranoid and stocking up?

Perhaps instead the preppers are following basic human instincts and wanting their genetic line to succeed into new generations. A few generations ago, it was the norm to save for a rainy day and it was not paranoia, instead it was making it through he winter or dry spell.

Only a deluded leftist believes the government will come to their rescue and all they need to do is stand there with their mouths and hand open.

OH LOOK EVERYONE A

Again, it is one thing to "save for a rainy day." It is another to look into the world, think "doom is going to come" and that it will be some post-apocalyptic landscape where the only survival is to be had in an every-man-for-himself situation. The reality, as history has always shown, is that survival cannot be preplanned in such a situation, but comes through the accidents that develop from people working together, finding how each have something which helps the whole. Survival is in groups, not through selfishness.

My what an intelligent response!

Seriously, this thread has proved the thesis with the comments in here.

OP isnt wrong, or right. I am sure there are preppers who think that way, just not the majority. In a shtf scenario I would try to help people, but at the same time I will surely be protecting my family from those who would kill my family for their own selfish needs. I prep because I dread a shtf scenario, not because I long for lawlessness.

why dont you buy a case of beans and shut up

OP will be the first one banging on your door with an empty belly yelling feed me...

Leave preppers alone. They haven't hurt you. They won't hurt you either so long as you don't try to take what is theirs or threaten their people. What is wrong with that.

Some preppers have gone overboard by my reasoning, but so what. Maybe buying that luxury car is going overboard, too. I expect that food, guns, and bullets won't depreciate like a car, so now who is the fool?

I prep a little. I keep a few months of food in a working rotation. I use everything I store and it has fed my family when times got hard. Twice we've found ourselves financially strapped and have consumed the entire stockpile, thankful that we were able to spend our money on bills and not food and daily supplies.

I hesitate to even call it prepping. My grandparents were country folks raised during the depression and what we call prepping they called normal. I remember the potato shed where they kept hundreds of potatoes on pallets in the cool near the ground. I remember the storm/root cellar where hundreds of jars of canned food was kept. I remember the flour cabinet where 50 pounds of flour was kept, the deep freeze with hundreds of pounds of meat and vegetables, the beds where boxes of canned food was stored. They shopped once a month and if cream of chicken soup was on sale my grandma would buy 50 cans. In fact, the way they operated they were so far ahead on every food item that they NEVER bought anything that wasn't on sale.

You'd have been damn hard pressed to starve them out and if you tried to take what was theirs by the time you got past the german shepherd you'd have faced a shotgun. They never even heard the word prepper. They just knew what hunger and desperation was and worked hard to avoid it because they knew that if and when times got hard there would be nobody to help you but yourself.