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Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?

 
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Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
I'm assuming by now this is accepted knowledge. I cannot imagine anyone doubts the reality of chemtrails, but I want to make sure all my ducks are in order before I start talking about this too extensively with friends and family.

I hope it isn't true -- I don't want barium and aluminum raining down on me -- so if the debunkers have a case, I want to hear it.

Just Google "chemtrails" and hit images -- scary -- look at all those damn chemtrails:

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Add these sites to your research on the subject ...

[link to metabunk.org]

[link to contrailscience.com]
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Thread: Did not belive in Chemtrails until I saw this in the sky
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Add these sites to your research on the subject ...

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I completely agree those photos have been debunked.

It still does not change the reality they are spraying crap everywhere.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.
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Re: Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
I'm assuming by now this is accepted knowledge. I cannot imagine anyone doubts the reality of chemtrails, but I want to make sure all my ducks are in order before I start talking about this too extensively with friends and family.

The debunkers really have no case, from what I can tell.

Just Google "chemtrails" and hit images:

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Look out man, you just invited the troll of all trolls. Just ignore him and hopefully he will go away. Most likely not, because it's his "noble" duty to be a prick and not bring anything to the topic that people don't already know. If you feed it, it will come.
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No Balls Noble is the only 1 left!
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Re: Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
I'm assuming by now this is accepted knowledge. I cannot imagine anyone doubts the reality of chemtrails, but I want to make sure all my ducks are in order before I start talking about this too extensively with friends and family.

The debunkers really have no case, from what I can tell.

Just Google "chemtrails" and hit images:

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave

Logic defeats chemtrails everyday.

The volume of Chemtrail material would have to be nearly equal to the fuel capacity of a jet, for it to make a chemtrail from one side of the sky to the other. Just like Contrails do.
It is illogical to believe that this is true.
So unless you can document that EACH and EVERY Commercial Jet has this capacity, then you are debunked.

Then prove that every Pilot and Mechanic are in on this, as well as all the people delivering these "chemicals" to the airports,since it is illogical to believe that this is true, you are debunked again.

Now prove why anyone would contaminate the air with chemical that would affect them as well as us,It is illogical to believe that this is true, so you are debunked again.

Since you have no such "proof", only "theories", then by logic, you are debunked.
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Re: Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
i am sort of on the fence and previously thought the theory was retarded.

so i guess you could say i still doubt them.

i havent seen any hard evidence other than pics of the sky.
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Re: Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
I'm assuming by now this is accepted knowledge. I cannot imagine anyone doubts the reality of chemtrails, but I want to make sure all my ducks are in order before I start talking about this too extensively with friends and family.

The debunkers really have no case, from what I can tell.

Just Google "chemtrails" and hit images:

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave

Logic defeats chemtrails everyday.

The volume of Chemtrail material would have to be nearly equal to the fuel capacity of a jet, f
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LOOK..a retarded troll.^
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Re: Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
I'm assuming by now this is accepted knowledge. I cannot imagine anyone doubts the reality of chemtrails, but I want to make sure all my ducks are in order before I start talking about this too extensively with friends and family.

The debunkers really have no case, from what I can tell.

Just Google "chemtrails" and hit images:

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave

Logic defeats chemtrails everyday.

The volume of Chemtrail material would have to be nearly equal to the fuel capacity of a jet, f
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LOOK..a retarded troll.^
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that statement doesnt help your case.

the capacity arguement is valid
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Re: Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
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Add these sites to your research on the subject ...

[link to metabunk.org]

[link to contrailscience.com]
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I thought I told you on another thread to go back to your bosses and tell them your shill game is up.

stfu
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Add these sites to your research on the subject ...

[link to metabunk.org]

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I completely agree those photos have been debunked.

It still does not change the reality they are spraying crap everywhere.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.
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what?
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Re: Is there a debate any longer about Chemtrails? Does anyone still doubt them?
Logic defeats chemtrails everyday.

The volume of Chemtrail material would have to be nearly equal to the fuel capacity of a jet, for it to make a chemtrail from one side of the sky to the other.
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And why is that? It can't carry 10,000 pounds of chemtrail solution in addition to jet fuel?

If there were no chemtrails -- no geoegineering program -- no weather modification program -- there would STILL BE PERSISTENT, LINGERING CONTRAILS from time to time. But not to this extent.

I do believe regular planes cause some contrails that persist -- they were visible during WWII, there is some evidence of them showing up here and there in the past.

I think the great "cover" for chemtrails is the fact that normal planes DO cause various types of contrails, some that are persistent, so debunkers have an easy time dismissing the whole thing.

But there are certain days when these KC 135s and C 117s come out in full force and blanket the skies with, yes, NORMAL contrails caused by the aircraft, some of which may or may not persist, but also an extra spraying of a solution that is much more potent than jet fuel and water, just as during WWII the type of fuel used in the jets and turboprops used then caused bigger contrails than modern jets today cause.
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the logistics of a worldwide chemtrail progam via airplanes just doesnt make sense
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I completely agree those photos have been debunked.

It still does not change the reality they are spraying crap everywhere.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.
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what?
 Quoting: Oyster


A rebuttal to the argument from ignorance fallacy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I think the great "cover" for chemtrails is the fact that normal planes DO cause various types of contrails, some that are persistent, so debunkers have an easy time dismissing the whole thing.

 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


This ^^^

But in Chicagoland the airspace is cleared(3500 flights daily from ORD and MDW!) for the few hours of Chemtrail ADC spraying.
One tanker does the ADC spraying which is easy to spot :) then the scheduled flights resume with a frenzy.

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I'm assuming by now this is accepted knowledge. I cannot imagine anyone doubts the reality of chemtrails, but I want to make sure all my ducks are in order before I start talking about this too extensively with friends and family.

The debunkers really have no case, from what I can tell.

Just Google "chemtrails" and hit images:

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave

Logic defeats chemtrails everyday.

The volume of Chemtrail material would have to be nearly equal to the fuel capacity of a jet, f
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307060


LOOK..a retarded troll.^
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that statement doesnt help your case.

the capacity arguement is valid
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The "capacity" argument is for the really dumb crowd. A small amount of particulate can be added to the generated vapor. The particulates piggy back on the H2O and react and develop expand. It's so simple, really.

Funny how just one jet, for instance , can fuck up a whole region of sky.

George B. posted images and information about that part a bazillion times
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I doubt them, and I doubt that you chemtards have actually studied the subjects enough to intelligently dismiss the facts for this stupid fantasy.

The trails in the sky are contrails...

But, I wouldn't put it past "the government" to spray things into the air from time to time.

There is no evidence that one thing has anything to do with the other.

There is also no evidence of any substance being found at ground level which can be associated with the trails...or with any sort of government spray project.

I'm sorry, but you people are ill informed and gullible.
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Logic defeats chemtrails everyday.

The volume of Chemtrail material would have to be nearly equal to the fuel capacity of a jet, f
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307060


LOOK..a retarded troll.^
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that statement doesnt help your case.

the capacity arguement is valid
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The "capacity" argument is for the really dumb crowd. A small amount of particulate can be added to the generated vapor. The particulates piggy back on the H2O and react and develop expand. It's so simple, really.

Funny how just one jet, for instance , can fuck up a whole region of sky.

George B. posted images and information about that part a bazillion times
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No, George has posted speculation and assumption a million times.
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the logistics of a worldwide chemtrail progam via airplanes just doesnt make sense
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Thats why sea faring ships/boats are being publicly introduced into the "weathermod" issue.

That 1980 news spot on "someday we will be able to control the weather with jet contrails" does not help this avenue of denial either.
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"High Bypass Turbofan"

Yes, there are still people who doubt (and more than doubt - actually know some facts supporting their doubt) about "Chemtrails".

I'm one of them.

Stop being a delusional paranoid, and learn a thing or two about "secrets too big to keep", dilution factors, and the overall volume of the sky.

You're seeing contrails.
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LOOK..a retarded troll.^
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that statement doesnt help your case.

the capacity arguement is valid
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The "capacity" argument is for the really dumb crowd. A small amount of particulate can be added to the generated vapor. The particulates piggy back on the H2O and react and develop expand. It's so simple, really.

Funny how just one jet, for instance , can fuck up a whole region of sky.

George B. posted images and information about that part a bazillion times
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No, George has posted speculation and assumption a million times.
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You are just stupid. Thats all there is to it. Either you believe what you are saying(which is stupid) or you are a derailer.

Either way...your simply dumb.
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I honestly hope chemtrails aren't real.

I would love it if we were totally wrong and these are just normal contrails.

If they are, we've got barium and aluminum raining down on us.

I don't want that to be true. BUT... BUT... look at all that crap in the skies, how can that be normal?
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that statement doesnt help your case.

the capacity arguement is valid
 Quoting: Oyster


The "capacity" argument is for the really dumb crowd. A small amount of particulate can be added to the generated vapor. The particulates piggy back on the H2O and react and develop expand. It's so simple, really.

Funny how just one jet, for instance , can fuck up a whole region of sky.

George B. posted images and information about that part a bazillion times
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24522527


No, George has posted speculation and assumption a million times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


You are just stupid. Thats all there is to it. Either you believe what you are saying(which is stupid) or you are a derailer.

Either way...your simply dumb.
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these statements dont help your case or make you seem intelligent
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"High Bypass Turbofan"

Yes, there are still people who doubt (and more than doubt - actually know some facts supporting their doubt) about "Chemtrails".

I'm one of them.

Stop being a delusional paranoid, and learn a thing or two about "secrets too big to keep", dilution factors, and the overall volume of the sky.

You're seeing contrails.
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With added ingredients.

H20 has very limited spectral and behavioral qualities that are consistent. When things get added to the mix those spectral and behavioral qualities change.

A large percentage of the activity suggests materials mixing with H2O that have characteristics more in common with aerosolized solvents, polymers, metallic particulates, even smoke.
Ice hates most of that stuff. It acts really funny when it interacts...not like puffy clouds..or even thin ones.

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Thread: Sky Writing And Chemtrail/Contrail contrast and comparison
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I honestly hope chemtrails aren't real.

I would love it if we were totally wrong and these are just normal contrails.

If they are, we've got barium and aluminum raining down on us.

I don't want that to be true. BUT... BUT... look at all that crap in the skies, how can that be normal?
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i would be more inclined to believe that changes in our atmosphere makes us see more presistent contrails.
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Add these sites to your research on the subject ...

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I thought I told you on another thread to go back to your bosses and tell them your shill game is up.

stfu
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the logistics of a worldwide chemtrail progam via airplanes just doesnt make sense
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Thats why sea faring ships/boats are being publicly introduced into the "weathermod" issue.

That 1980 news spot on "someday we will be able to control the weather with jet contrails" does not help this avenue of denial either.
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links on either?
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"High Bypass Turbofan"

Yes, there are still people who doubt (and more than doubt - actually know some facts supporting their doubt) about "Chemtrails".

I'm one of them.

Stop being a delusional paranoid, and learn a thing or two about "secrets too big to keep", dilution factors, and the overall volume of the sky.

You're seeing contrails.
 Quoting: Shelgeyr


It's staggering to believe all of the man hours behind the chemtrail movement are for naught.

Carnicom's web site and the What In The World Are They Spraying? documentaries.

All for naught?

All delusion? All a fuss over increase jet traffic and HARMLESS water vapor trails? Really?

So many books, so many web sites, so many dedicated believers, so much evidence...

Really?
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