News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS" | |
CripplingLies User ID: 5010858 Brazil 12/11/2012 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me in the future: I AM LEGEND! Except I know nothing about biology stuff... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29630054 United Kingdom 12/11/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21738912 United States 12/11/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Sneetch User ID: 14967850 United States 12/11/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29635788 United Kingdom 12/11/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see this in a different light. Someone might have known this was a cure long ago and kept it hush hush. In fact if originally manmade, a form of cancer cure might have been the original intent and someone else got hold of the live virus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21738912 Maybe. Or maybe they're just looking for super-patients. Imagine how much someone with both AIDS and cancer is worth to the medical profession. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22705145 United States 12/11/2012 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. Quoting: mkscrewup A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. Maybe it just fucking works? ever thought of that? Maybe not everything is a flipping conspiracy. Jesus.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19490298 United States 12/11/2012 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm glad someone brought this up. If they can tweak the aids virus to destroy cancer.....why can't they tweak it to cure aids? They are admitting they can change the dynamic of the aids virus. Sounds man made to me. If that's true, they can create a tweaked aids virus to mitigate immune damage and kill the dominant virus. I hope I just made sense. p.s: I'm very happy for the little girl! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28767151 United Kingdom 12/11/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. Quoting: mkscrewup A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. They didnt give her aids, they gave her HIV. HIV eventually turns into AIDS, these days with treatment in maybe a decade, when it may have taken mere years in the past. Cut a long story short, HIV attacks white blood cells and damages them, eventually leaving you without an immune system. Leukaemia is a type of cancer that results in massive amounts of white blood cells. The logic behind this is the HIV infection will combat the cancer. The HIV may have given her 20 years of like instead of the cancer which may have killed her in 2 or 3 years. A similar example of one disease helping to stop another would be sickle cell, although this works in a totally different way. Sickle cell anaemia makes you immune to malaria because your blood cells are too malformed to allow the malaria parasite to reproduce properly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28767151 United Kingdom 12/11/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for HIV being used to cure cancer, i doubt it would work on any other cancers that dont result in elevated white blood cell counts. Cancer isnt one disease like everybody assumes, its at basic form an error in cell repair and replication. I dont think a general cure for cancer will ever exist. They might become easier to treat over the years, and even possible to manage without having a detrimental effect on quality of life. Cancer IMO is a part of life, eventually a body ends up with too many mutations in the cell repair systems and ends up with too much damage in genome and you start getting uncontrolled cell replication and differentiation. Unless we can use stem cells and take a genetic sample at birth and provide everybody with a new body/set of organs every 50 years the chances of stopping cancer 100% are slim. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28767151 United Kingdom 12/11/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All patients are guinea pigs, everybody reacts to treatment and drugs differently. Medicine is sort of an exercise in deductive reasoning and not an exact science. What works perfectly for one patient or the average patient, doesn't always work for all patients. A good doctor is a doctor who can treat a person quickly and effectively with minimal stress to the patient. Unfortunately people need to be poked and prodded and tested to get a better idea just what is wrong with them and how it might be fixed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28767151 United Kingdom 12/11/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The curious thing about I AM LEGEND is in the book, Robert ends up the outcast in a world of vampires who eventually mutated and evolved into day-walking vampires. The book is so much better than the movies based on it. |
Pyractomena borealis User ID: 20793638 United States 12/11/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. Quoting: mkscrewup A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. THEY love to torture children. Sick bastards. There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1076086 Germany 12/13/2012 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you get a chemo, you get aids. So, when you cure cancer by chemo, you get some more damaged organs in your body, and you are flopping to die some years later, but sometimes again because of cancer. So it is not sure, that you get never cancer again. And when your immune system is damaged, what means aids, but not hiv-infection! - you can be treated with meds, which give you the best possibility to get cancer! So, you are like a rabbit in the cage! They caught you, they have you! My humble opinion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26679637 Australia 12/13/2012 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. Quoting: mkscrewup A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. The HIV virus can be used like a vaccine, for example when you get a measles shot you test positive for measles because you've been vaccinated against that disease however you'll never get measles. You will test positive for any disease that you've been vaccinated against however you're immune to that disease. People injected with any new HIV vaccine will test HIV positive but will never get AIDS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26679637 Australia 12/13/2012 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. Quoting: mkscrewup A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. They didnt give her aids, they gave her HIV. HIV eventually turns into AIDS, these days with treatment in maybe a decade, when it may have taken mere years in the past. Actually, HIV positive people in advanced countries have the same life expectancy as anyone else these days. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29735994 United Kingdom 12/13/2012 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. Quoting: mkscrewup A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. The HIV virus is modified and used to effectively "reprogram" a number of immune cells. The cells are removed from the body before this procedure. The reprogrammed immune cells are then reintroduced to the body hopefully leading to a pretty strong immune response to the cancer cells. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29735994 United Kingdom 12/13/2012 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just suspicious of this one. Quoting: mkscrewup A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will". B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything. They didnt give her aids, they gave her HIV. HIV eventually turns into AIDS, these days with treatment in maybe a decade, when it may have taken mere years in the past. Cut a long story short, HIV attacks white blood cells and damages them, eventually leaving you without an immune system. Leukaemia is a type of cancer that results in massive amounts of white blood cells. The logic behind this is the HIV infection will combat the cancer. The HIV may have given her 20 years of like instead of the cancer which may have killed her in 2 or 3 years. A similar example of one disease helping to stop another would be sickle cell, although this works in a totally different way. Sickle cell anaemia makes you immune to malaria because your blood cells are too malformed to allow the malaria parasite to reproduce properly. Its is a little more complex. The immune system is exposed to the HIV virus outside the body. The HIV virus body is used to deliver custom gene's to the immune cells programming them to kick the living shit out of the cancer cells |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1247165 United States 12/16/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF? Quoting: mkscrewup "A disabled form of the virus that causes AIDS has been used for the first time in a child as a treatment for Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia (ALL). Emily "Emma" Whitehead, a 7-year-old girl from Philipsburg, Pennsylvania was diagnosed with ALL in 2010. She received standard chemotherapy treatments, but in October 2011, her cancer returned." [link to www.digitaljournal.com] Zombie aids inc |
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CripplingLies User ID: 5010858 Brazil 12/17/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The curious thing about I AM LEGEND is in the book, Robert ends up the outcast in a world of vampires who eventually mutated and evolved into day-walking vampires. The book is so much better than the movies based on it. Hmm, gonna give it a try! Someone told me that the book was really bad, didn't even worth reading...I believed... |