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News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"

 
mkscrewup

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News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
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"A disabled form of the virus that causes AIDS has been used for the first time in a child as a treatment for Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia (ALL).
Emily "Emma" Whitehead, a 7-year-old girl from Philipsburg, Pennsylvania was diagnosed with ALL in 2010. She received standard chemotherapy treatments, but in October 2011, her cancer returned."

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Me in the future: I AM LEGEND!
Except I know nothing about biology stuff...
mkscrewup (OP)

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12/11/2012 10:58 AM

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I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.

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12/11/2012 11:14 AM
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I see this in a different light. Someone might have known this was a cure long ago and kept it hush hush. In fact if originally manmade, a form of cancer cure might have been the original intent and someone else got hold of the live virus.
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12/11/2012 11:20 AM

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Cancer patients are guinea pigs, as far as i'm concerned. My uncle had a "special" cancerous tumor in his arm apparently, and he agreed to undergo "experimental" procedures. Hes recovered luckily, but it still strikes me as odd.
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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I see this in a different light. Someone might have known this was a cure long ago and kept it hush hush. In fact if originally manmade, a form of cancer cure might have been the original intent and someone else got hold of the live virus.
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Maybe. Or maybe they're just looking for super-patients. Imagine how much someone with both AIDS and cancer is worth to the medical profession.

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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.
 Quoting: mkscrewup


Maybe it just fucking works? ever thought of that?
Maybe not everything is a flipping conspiracy.
Jesus....
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm glad someone brought this up. If they can tweak the aids virus to destroy cancer.....why can't they tweak it to cure aids?

They are admitting they can change the dynamic of the aids virus. Sounds man made to me. If that's true, they can create a tweaked aids virus to mitigate immune damage and kill the dominant virus.

I hope I just made sense.

p.s: I'm very happy for the little girl!
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.
 Quoting: mkscrewup


They didnt give her aids, they gave her HIV.

HIV eventually turns into AIDS, these days with treatment in maybe a decade, when it may have taken mere years in the past.

Cut a long story short, HIV attacks white blood cells and damages them, eventually leaving you without an immune system.

Leukaemia is a type of cancer that results in massive amounts of white blood cells.

The logic behind this is the HIV infection will combat the cancer. The HIV may have given her 20 years of like instead of the cancer which may have killed her in 2 or 3 years.

A similar example of one disease helping to stop another would be sickle cell, although this works in a totally different way.

Sickle cell anaemia makes you immune to malaria because your blood cells are too malformed to allow the malaria parasite to reproduce properly.
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12/11/2012 03:13 PM
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As for HIV being used to cure cancer, i doubt it would work on any other cancers that dont result in elevated white blood cell counts.

Cancer isnt one disease like everybody assumes, its at basic form an error in cell repair and replication.

I dont think a general cure for cancer will ever exist. They might become easier to treat over the years, and even possible to manage without having a detrimental effect on quality of life.

Cancer IMO is a part of life, eventually a body ends up with too many mutations in the cell repair systems and ends up with too much damage in genome and you start getting uncontrolled cell replication and differentiation.

Unless we can use stem cells and take a genetic sample at birth and provide everybody with a new body/set of organs every 50 years the chances of stopping cancer 100% are slim.
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12/11/2012 03:16 PM
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Cancer patients are guinea pigs.
 Quoting: Sneetch


All patients are guinea pigs, everybody reacts to treatment and drugs differently.

Medicine is sort of an exercise in deductive reasoning and not an exact science. What works perfectly for one patient or the average patient, doesn't always work for all patients.

A good doctor is a doctor who can treat a person quickly and effectively with minimal stress to the patient.

Unfortunately people need to be poked and prodded and tested to get a better idea just what is wrong with them and how it might be fixed.
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Me in the future: I AM LEGEND!
Except I know nothing about biology stuff...
 Quoting: CripplingLies


The curious thing about I AM LEGEND is in the book, Robert ends up the outcast in a world of vampires who eventually mutated and evolved into day-walking vampires.

The book is so much better than the movies based on it.
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.
 Quoting: mkscrewup


THEY love to torture children. Sick bastards.
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
Or, this is a way for everyone to flock to the doctors, get infected with aids to kill their cancer so that 1: they can't reproduce because they now have aids and it will spread or 2: so that they will spread it faster.
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
When you get a chemo, you get aids. So, when you cure cancer by chemo, you get some more damaged organs in your body, and you are flopping to die some years later, but sometimes again because of cancer. So it is not sure, that you get never cancer again. And when your immune system is damaged, what means aids, but not hiv-infection! - you can be treated with meds, which give you the best possibility to get cancer! So, you are like a rabbit in the cage! They caught you, they have you!
My humble opinion.
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.
 Quoting: mkscrewup


The HIV virus can be used like a vaccine, for example when you get a measles shot you test positive for measles because you've been vaccinated against that disease however you'll never get measles. You will test positive for any disease that you've been vaccinated against however you're immune to that disease. People injected with any new HIV vaccine will test HIV positive but will never get AIDS.
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.
 Quoting: mkscrewup


They didnt give her aids, they gave her HIV.

HIV eventually turns into AIDS, these days with treatment in maybe a decade, when it may have taken mere years in the past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28767151

Actually, HIV positive people in advanced countries have the same life expectancy as anyone else these days.
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12/13/2012 07:27 AM
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.
 Quoting: mkscrewup


The HIV virus is modified and used to effectively "reprogram" a number of immune cells. The cells are removed from the body before this procedure. The reprogrammed immune cells are then reintroduced to the body hopefully leading to a pretty strong immune response to the cancer cells.
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
I'm just suspicious of this one.

A) Why do they think its fine to experiment on a kid and give her AIDS (even a "non-live" version) just because she has cancer. Cancer victims just seem like the latest guinea pigs for absolutely anything. Like "Oh, that didn't kill them, maybe THIS will".

B) If the public swallows "AIDS is good for you" (which they will because it has a cute little cancer patient attached) they will buy anything.
 Quoting: mkscrewup


They didnt give her aids, they gave her HIV.

HIV eventually turns into AIDS, these days with treatment in maybe a decade, when it may have taken mere years in the past.

Cut a long story short, HIV attacks white blood cells and damages them, eventually leaving you without an immune system.

Leukaemia is a type of cancer that results in massive amounts of white blood cells.

The logic behind this is the HIV infection will combat the cancer. The HIV may have given her 20 years of like instead of the cancer which may have killed her in 2 or 3 years.

A similar example of one disease helping to stop another would be sickle cell, although this works in a totally different way.

Sickle cell anaemia makes you immune to malaria because your blood cells are too malformed to allow the malaria parasite to reproduce properly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28767151



Its is a little more complex. The immune system is exposed to the HIV virus outside the body. The HIV virus body is used to deliver custom gene's to the immune cells programming them to kick the living shit out of the cancer cells
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12/16/2012 08:09 PM
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Re: News: "We can cure your cancer by giving you AIDS"
WTF?



"A disabled form of the virus that causes AIDS has been used for the first time in a child as a treatment for Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia (ALL).
Emily "Emma" Whitehead, a 7-year-old girl from Philipsburg, Pennsylvania was diagnosed with ALL in 2010. She received standard chemotherapy treatments, but in October 2011, her cancer returned."

[link to www.digitaljournal.com]
 Quoting: mkscrewup


Zombie aids inc
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Me in the future: I AM LEGEND!
Except I know nothing about biology stuff...
 Quoting: CripplingLies


The curious thing about I AM LEGEND is in the book, Robert ends up the outcast in a world of vampires who eventually mutated and evolved into day-walking vampires.

The book is so much better than the movies based on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28767151


Hmm, gonna give it a try! Someone told me that the book was really bad, didn't even worth reading...I believed...

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