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Thousands Of Union Protesters Have Stormed The State Capitol In Michigan To Protest The GOP's Right To Work Bill!!!

 
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So again, you think all workers should just be forced by union thugs to pay dues? That's ridiculous. Plus check the unemployment numbers of right to work states vs these union slums
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


As I tried to say, unemployment numbers will be lower in right-to-work states, because corporate types will move there to break the Union states in the long run.

Pay will begin to dwindle and benefits wiped-out in the long run.

Just like NAFTA and GATT set the stage for all this shit.

Oh well,...

Z
In time we hate that which we often fear.

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The most disgusting is that schools are closed today, probably tomorrow so the teachers could attend the protests
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Silver lining in every cloud.

Public unions are the disgrace.
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I never understood the use of public unions. I mean if they have a dispute or want to "negotiate" higher wages/better benefits then the union bosses show up to the government agency and negotiate with whom exactly? More union members on the "other side of the table"?

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Forcing me to do anything encroaches on the freedoms gained by people, who through blood, sweat and tears, fought and won freedom of choice and speech for the American citizen in the past,... that today's entitlement controlled goverment slave takes for granted,... while pissing it all away in the now.
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As far as I know, most Unions jobs pay really well. People want them and covet them for this reason. Now, you feel "forced" to want one of these jobs and have to pay your dues.

Why not work Wal-Mart then, they do not force you to pay anything, because they offer little return.

Fucking commies make you pay a "union dues" each year to shop at SAM's club but you don't bitch about that.

Must be a generational thing going here, all seems crystal clear to me,...

Maybe it time I had a couple of cold ones.

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We pay higher prices on goods to facilitate union dues.

Sam's club provides me with a service. Unions do not.

Not a generational thing. This current generation is equally invested in getting more reciprocation for subpar performance and tenure level protections from repercussions of their actions.
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One of the most brilliant things they have done is get working class people to think unions are a bad thing. Not that all unions are a good thing either, their corrupt too.

"Gee well Gollie! Lower my pay some please!"
"And while your at it I don't needs those medicel benifuts, I never get sick, I'm retarded!" "Lets get them liberal union boys out, I demand the right to work for less!"

Ya, brilliant.

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Yet right to work states have lower unemployment and on average a higher wage?

lol, you are plain making sh*t up.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Please sir, No facts.
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This day in age facts hold no weight. There will still be thousands of union zombie supporters regardless of what the facts are.
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So again, you think all workers should just be forced by union thugs to pay dues? That's ridiculous. Plus check the unemployment numbers of right to work states vs these union slums
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


As I tried to say, unemployment numbers will be lower in right-to-work states, because corporate types will move there to break the Union states in the long run.

Pay will begin to dwindle and benefits wiped-out in the long run.
Just like NAFTA and GATT set the stage for all this shit.

Oh well,...

Z
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Ok one more time, THE AVERAGE WAGE IN A RIGHT TO WORK STATE IS HIGHER!!!!!

Stop saying pay will drop, it's perpetuating lies.
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Despite a vocal counteroffensive from President Barack Obama and other national Democrats Monday, Michigan's GOP-led state legislature is expected to pass the legislation. Republican Gov. Rick Snyder has said he will sign the bill if it reaches his desk.


On the surface, Michigan may seem like a surprising battleground for the latest GOP assault on organized labor. The manufacturing-heavy state is a stronghold for several powerful public and private-sector unions, most notably the United Auto Workers. The New York Times reports tha just last month, labor leaders asked the state's voters to approve an initiative that would have codified collective bargaining in the state constitution.

That measure backfired, and last week, GOP state legislators pushed through the right-to-work bill without any committee hearings or Democratic support.

The conflict exposed growing tensions between Michigan's labor movement and the state's Republican lawmakers, echoing a trend that has been popping up in statehouses across the Midwest since 2010, including in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Indiana.

But if the outcome of those labor fights are any indication, it is unlikely that Michigan's right-to-work fight will end at Snyder's desk today. According to reports, labor organizers are already exploring legal options to repeal the right-to-work law, and recall Republican lawmakers instrumental in passing the bill.


Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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It's nice to see some states finally shoving the Dem shit back down their throats.

I think in very short time, we will all quickly learn how much of a minority they actually represent.

Last Edited by SaveUSa on 12/11/2012 05:13 PM
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So again, you think all workers should just be forced by union thugs to pay dues? That's ridiculous. Plus check the unemployment numbers of right to work states vs these union slums
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


As I tried to say, unemployment numbers will be lower in right-to-work states, because corporate types will move there to break the Union states in the long run.

Pay will begin to dwindle and benefits wiped-out in the long run.
Just like NAFTA and GATT set the stage for all this shit.

Oh well,...

Z
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Ok one more time, THE AVERAGE WAGE IN A RIGHT TO WORK STATE IS HIGHER!!!!!

Stop saying pay will drop, it's perpetuating lies.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


But Obama said... Did he not tell the truth????
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Just watch how this plays out, there will be almost no arrests. Just imagine it that was the other side out there, doing the exact same thing. There would be nothing but stun guns zapping, battons swinging, beatings and arrests going on. So,the unions are good for something.The Mafia had to go into some kind of business.
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just a reminder that unions cost
some people their lives

Thread: Hurricane Sandy Union Labor Scam is costing some their lives while making others rich

I remember when unions used to be called
by their former title:

The Mafia
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I find it odd how people stomp down the government saying they want freedom, etc, etc. Yet, when the government gives you freedom, as in the freedom to not join a union if you don't want to and not pay the union dues if you don't want to, then they all protest and claim that the government is taking freedom away.

Really, union people of Michigan? What have your powerful unions done for you? Are you such sheep that you can't see how they've destroyed your state? How they have run off all the businesses? If Michigan passes this, I see a revival of Michigans economy in the near future. Righ To Work states will be the place to be, not because you will have cheaper labor, but so that you won't have to be ROBBED by the unions.
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Just watch how this plays out, there will be almost no arrests. Just imagine it that was the other side out there, doing the exact same thing. There would be nothing but stun guns zapping, battons swinging, beatings and arrests going on. So,the unions are good for something.The Mafia had to go into some kind of business.
 Quoting: SLIPPERY NIPPPS


ohyeah

Under the guise of helping the worker.

See a similarity in tactics. Liberals, dictators, commies, unions, they all keep the sheeple enslaved in the name of helping the worker.

Why after centuries of this same tactic, do people continue to buy it?
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So again, you think all workers should just be forced by union thugs to pay dues? That's ridiculous. Plus check the unemployment numbers of right to work states vs these union slums
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


As I tried to say, unemployment numbers will be lower in right-to-work states, because corporate types will move there to break the Union states in the long run.

Pay will begin to dwindle and benefits wiped-out in the long run.
Just like NAFTA and GATT set the stage for all this shit.

Oh well,...

Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Ok one more time, THE AVERAGE WAGE IN A RIGHT TO WORK STATE IS HIGHER!!!!!

Stop saying pay will drop, it's perpetuating lies.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


But Obama said... Did he not tell the truth????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478672


that depends on whether we're asking about pre teen or post teen years, certainly in the post teen years, no.
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uh oh union reps will be losing all their fat income from their slaves, what will they do now?
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Front page Drudge is headlined- there will be blood. The teachers have basically been allowed not to work today because they have to protest.

Call me dumb but what is the issue? Why are these people all PO'ed cause people shouldn't be forced to join something in order to work. Are we in America? These people are stupid- Ever heard of a company called Hostess? They refused to bow down to the union. Is there more to this bill that is not being released? Or are these people putting politics before the good of the state?
 Quoting: Corn Dog


here we have very strong unions and the amount of corruption is astonishing, it goes all the way up the system.

The union leaders are all POLITICAL (left wingers), and there are rorting scandals all over the place. Union credit cards (funded by the real workers who are forced to contribute), used by the guys at the top have been used for all night parties, brothels... you name it. Then there are the "slush funds", set up using union funds so that the fellows at the top can buy houses and all that sort of shit.

The unions in this country are a mixture of crooks, thugs and standover merchants. The parallells with organized crime are clear to see.

Interestingly alot of the "green schemes", such as wind power, solar power, desalination plants etc are HEAVILY involved with union invested funds. That is why so many left political parties have run with global warming senario and pushed through massive subsidies for alternative energy sources. (using public money to fund the subsidies).

The rot goes all through the system.
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Boss: "Hey Tony .. what ya doin on that forklift"

Tony: "Nothing .. Just a waiting to pick something up"

Boss: "Why dont you get down off that thing and sweep up or take out some trash ?!"

Tony: "Sorry .. no can do. Those things are not in my contract so Im not allowed .. Go talk to my union rep if you have a problem."

Boss: "Um .. nevermind then"

Union Worker/Boss conversation.
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Mish on this issue
[link to globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com]
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Unions have KILLED this country !!!!! GTFO you lazy bitches
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uh oh union reps will be losing all their fat income from their slaves, what will they do now?
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go back to shakedown racketsm numbers and ambulance chasing
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The most disgusting is that schools are closed today, probably tomorrow so the teachers could attend the protests
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This is BS ! These ppl are over paid to begin with !! Lazy asses go to a job 8 moths out of a year , dont teach our children shit and they whine for more ??? I say fuck you! everyone decides to homeschool you morons are out of a handout.................... =( so sad for you greedy bastards
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Az is a so called 'right to work' state. What misnomer. Right to work means your employer has the right to fuck the employees in the ass.

Employees in Az can be terminated for good reason, poor reason, or no reason at all.
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I would fire you just for having that piss poor attitude.
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There is nothing wrong with a law stating you do not have to join a Union. The problem arises when that same law forces the Union to protect the non paying member. That member also gets all the benefits of the Union without paying dues.
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bill is signed banning mandatory union membership!
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bill is signed banning mandatory union membership!
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clappa
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One careful study conducted by Hofstra’s Lonnie Stevans in 2007 found that right-to-work laws do help boost the number of businesses in a state — but the gains mostly went to owners, while average wages went down. ”Although right-to-work states may be more attractive to business,” Stevans concludes, “this does not necessarily translate into enhanced economic verve in the right-to-work state if there is little ‘trickle-down’ from business owners to the non-unionized workers.”

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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yay
fking union subversives need a bullet
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[link to abcnews.go.com]

Michigan Governor Rick Snyder has signed a right-to-work bill limiting union power into law in his state, he announced in a press conference on Tuesday evening.

"I view this as an opportunity to stand up for Michigan's workers—to be pro-worker," Snyder said.
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The good old days of labor unrest:

Great Railroad Strike of 1877

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Bashed in heads, piles of dead bodies, and burned out buildings galore...
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U.A.W. and Chrysler show their appreciation for the bailout!
Chrysler Auto Workers fired after Wolchek investigation are back - Fox 2 News Headlines

[link to www.myfoxdetroit.com]



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Heisenburg, your just plane full of shit and have an agenda, you couldn't have that few IQ points.

Heres the facts and I'm going to start posting a bunch.

Union Workers Earn More Than Nonunion
Yet, union membership has been declining since 1983

[link to usgovinfo.about.com]

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Union Vs Non-Union pros and cons?

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

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