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Thousands Of Union Protesters Have Stormed The State Capitol In Michigan To Protest The GOP's Right To Work Bill!!!

 
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They are pissed that workers will have a choice.

Idiot unions.

They know people will gtfo of those corrupt political arms.....I mean unions.

It's just funny seeing them protest AGAINST people having a choice...
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Union busting is an age old strategy to reduce benefits and pay in the workplace.

I've never been part of a union, but I get why they help keep things in balance.

The history of unions is a fascinating one.
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Thank You :)

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REPORT: The American Middle Class Was Built By Unions And It Will Decline Without Them

[link to thinkprogress.org]
 Quoting: Frater


ass, the american middle class was built by flattening the industrialized world in ww2, ASSHOLE.

those days are over, the chinese can produce the same product for one tenth of the cost, putting fat stupid entitled unionistas on a barbecue spit soon enough, they being the only edible thing left in the usa
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I you think $916/mo is big bucks why aren't you in china?

[link to business.asiaone.com]
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the amount is immaterial, it's YOU that's part and parcel of the INTERNATIONALIST socialist utopian movement, and notice, ass, that those that buy and sell your honesty and integrity for pennies dont allow unions in their captive nations...
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You need to put down the crack pipe...
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Labor Unions: The Life and Death of the Middle Class

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Frater

Do you guys need more or is someone going to say some derogatory to me? Eh, I'll keep going...
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No need to keep going.. the fact is everything you have osted so far is prpaganda written by leftists / socialists / communists as fear mongering.

grow up.

unions are a pox on America.

People will work for what they can live on and do well on. if the job does not ppay well enough, no one will take it.

the free market economy will sort that out without the help of some fat, lazy, mouthbreathing socialist libtard taking money from someones pocket for nothing.
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You can't compare public sector unions and private sector unions.

Public sector unions should never have been allowed in the first place.

Public sector unions = bad

Private sector unions = good

If you don't understand this, then you are a useless retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29417490


Granted non all union activity is good, I already said that, can't you read?

So, what i am saying is there WAS NO MIDDLE CLASS before unions and their won't be again if things keep going the way they are.

Frater
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and, AND you union fuck, the middle class OWES MORE MONEY THAN IT HAS FOR THE DEBT, so NOTHING HAS BEEN CREATED, except for the absolute indebtedness of EVERY AMERICAN BY YOUR mr gunnint union buddies.

Your effective tax rate is over 100% thanks to you, and you only get off if you die, and soon
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yup
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I just don't understand why these people are so pissed.Maybe they have never had to use their Union. Anyone I know that has ever expected their union to have their back got shafted. Unions collect the dues, negotiate and campaign then when the workers have an issue the lines are busy.
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clappa
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People - I understand the whole unions raised wages and benefits deal. I get it. The law passed does not get rid of unions. It simply gives people a choice of whether they want to work under a union contract or not. Before the law, you had to be a union member to even get a job with a company that had a union contract. In other words, non-union members need not apply.

And in today's economy, the argument that employers will now stick it to workers is off base. Employers today have a choice, that they have been exercising freely: They move the jobs outside of the US.

Unions had their place when there were NO worker protection laws on the books, but their time has passed. I watched as union contracts destroyed the US Steel industry. Hostess is just the most recent example.

Employers today have to compete with employers who make similar products offshore. If all was fair, the US government would tarriff the hell out of foreign goods to level the field for environmental laws we have but a foreign country does not, wage and benefit laws, etc. But they don't.

And frankly, being forced to join an "interst" group in order to even have a shot at working is not in the spirit of our Constitutional Freedoms. That "join or don't work" model has been tried before - unless you were a member of the Nazi party in Germany, you were pretty much out of the running for any kind of decent job.

By the way, the "Nazi Party" as we call it, was called the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei in Germany. That translates into the National Socialist German Workers' Party. A SOCIALIST LABOR organization. The party protested and engaged in violent acts when anything interfered with their interests. Sound familiar?

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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Yep, the union leaders don't want their union workers to have a choice in anything. They want total control over their sheep. They are fuming mad because these sheep might move onto greener pastures.
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[Translation]; CEO's, Bankers, the ruling oligarchy want control of the working sheep,... with no collective voice of labor to stand in their way.

Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT wrong.

what it means is that the "people" that DO THE WORK in this country do not want their labor stolen and given to the communist party here in America so they can ruin our country.

Fuck unions, fuck communists and fuck you.

you don't get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29635112


Unless you are one of the 1%, here's the dumbed down version of why they serve a purpose.

You may choose not to be a part of one, but they do help protect those that can't stand up for themselves and their mere existence keeps many others from abusing their employees in the workplace.

One for all, all for one.



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They are pissed that workers will have a choice.

Idiot unions.

They know people will gtfo of those corrupt political arms.....I mean unions.

It's just funny seeing them protest AGAINST people having a choice...
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Union busting is an age old strategy to reduce benefits and pay in the workplace.

I've never been part of a union, but I get why they help keep things in balance.

The history of unions is a fascinating one.
 Quoting: Madame X


Thank You :)

hf
 Quoting: Frater


I've read your posts and most of the links, but I've still found no answer as to why it's ok to force someone to join a union and pay dues.

Why restrict their freedom?
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The concept that union members are all libtard commies is hilarious.

I worked at public agency in CA where all the heavy equipment mechanics were in the SEIU. These were your card carrying NRA members and registered republicans. You wouldn't get to finish calling them a libtard commie to their face because of the new fat lip you'd be sportin before you were done.

I don't recall too many of them bitching about the union because come contract time, all the management people they had to negotiate with, who weren't in a union, were the libtard commies who had never done a real day's work in their lives.

So it doesn't work the same everywhere if you've actually been there.
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They are pissed that workers will have a choice.

Idiot unions.

They know people will gtfo of those corrupt political arms.....I mean unions.

It's just funny seeing them protest AGAINST people having a choice...
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Union busting is an age old strategy to reduce benefits and pay in the workplace.

I've never been part of a union, but I get why they help keep things in balance.

The history of unions is a fascinating one.
 Quoting: Madame X


Thank You :)

hf
 Quoting: Frater


I've read your posts and most of the links, but I've still found no answer as to why it's ok to force someone to join a union and pay dues.

Why restrict their freedom?
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


That is a good point, I see it.

What has happened is the majority of the workers voted to Unionize and subsequently, it's a shop with collective bargaining. If anyone does not belong to the shop, it tends to "bust" the union. Just think of the word Union.

Someone just pointed out to me here at work (non union shop btw) that this RTW thing may have the opposite effect as the one intended, it may make the Unions have to earn their keep so people want them!

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The concept that union members are all libtard commies is hilarious.

I worked at public agency in CA where all the heavy equipment mechanics were in the SEIU. These were your card carrying NRA members and registered republicans. You wouldn't get to finish calling them a libtard commie to their face because of the new fat lip you'd be sportin before you were done.

I don't recall too many of them bitching about the union because come contract time, all the management people they had to negotiate with, who weren't in a union, were the libtard commies who had never done a real day's work in their lives.

So it doesn't work the same everywhere if you've actually been there.
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I'm a Ron Paul Republican BTW.

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...


Union busting is an age old strategy to reduce benefits and pay in the workplace.

I've never been part of a union, but I get why they help keep things in balance.

The history of unions is a fascinating one.
 Quoting: Madame X


Thank You :)

hf
 Quoting: Frater


I've read your posts and most of the links, but I've still found no answer as to why it's ok to force someone to join a union and pay dues.

Why restrict their freedom?
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


That is a good point, I see it.

What has happened is the majority of the workers voted to Unionize and subsequently, it's a shop with collective bargaining. If anyone does not belong to the shop, it tends to "bust" the union. Just think of the word Union.

Someone just pointed out to me here at work (non union shop btw) that this RTW thing may have the opposite effect as the one intended, it may make the Unions have to earn their keep so people want them!

Frater
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Well then it seems that the burden of proving their value lies with the unions. If they were so beneficial, no one would even think twice. They would run to the unions without question.

The simple fact that they feel they should be able to force anyone to join their rolls makes me dubious of their worth.
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Union busting is an age old strategy to reduce benefits and pay in the workplace.

I've never been part of a union, but I get why they help keep things in balance.

The history of unions is a fascinating one.
 Quoting: Madame X


Thank You :)

hf
 Quoting: Frater


I've read your posts and most of the links, but I've still found no answer as to why it's ok to force someone to join a union and pay dues.

Why restrict their freedom?
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


That is a good point, I see it.

What has happened is the majority of the workers voted to Unionize and subsequently, it's a shop with collective bargaining. If anyone does not belong to the shop, it tends to "bust" the union. Just think of the word Union.

Someone just pointed out to me here at work (non union shop btw) that this RTW thing may have the opposite effect as the one intended, it may make the Unions have to earn their keep so people want them!

Frater
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why doe they only have votes to join unions, but never have votes to kick them out?
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Thank You :)

hf
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I've read your posts and most of the links, but I've still found no answer as to why it's ok to force someone to join a union and pay dues.

Why restrict their freedom?
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


That is a good point, I see it.

What has happened is the majority of the workers voted to Unionize and subsequently, it's a shop with collective bargaining. If anyone does not belong to the shop, it tends to "bust" the union. Just think of the word Union.

Someone just pointed out to me here at work (non union shop btw) that this RTW thing may have the opposite effect as the one intended, it may make the Unions have to earn their keep so people want them!

Frater
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why doe they only have votes to join unions, but never have votes to kick them out?
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Actually I've worked for companies that voted out unions but then voted in new ones.

By no means am I saying I even really like them, what I'm saying is sure as shit, our already declining standard of living will decline further and faster.

Lets say your a corporation with shareholders and you have the option to reduce expenses and increase revenue by lowering wages and benefits with nothing in the way of stopping you, what do you do?

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The globalist want to take down this country. It seems like the union workers have been duped into pushing globalist agenda.

I am probably not the only one assuming the unions were taken over by some globalist am I?

These unions all started protesting just recently. I can think of 5 union backed strikes in the past month and a half right off the top of my head.
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They are pissed that workers will have a choice.

Idiot unions.

They know people will gtfo of those corrupt political arms.....I mean unions.

It's just funny seeing them protest AGAINST people having a choice...
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Hell, Man. I hope you understand that we can't be giving ordinary people choices.

Give the fools a choice to make and first thing you know the rabble rousers among them will start ranting about making other choices for themselves. That will lead to these conspirators proclaiming that ordinary people have rights. First thing you know conditions will be such that freedom could begin happening all over the place. You wouldn't want that to happen. Would you?
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Do you think all the HOSTESS employees didn't want to work in their local town and support there families?

Unions are legalized Mobsters. Even if they will sacrifice your future for their benefit.
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Fuck all those Union pricks!

It's their goddamn fault that the US is in the state it is now.


Fucking cars should not cost $30,000 fucking dollars.

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either the union busts the public with is forced to pay them or the public busts the union which keeps them away from their goodies
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What is wrong with unions?
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All you union bashers are falling for the global agenda hook line and sinker. Got the middle class fighting each other over good wage entitlements, while the rich 1% walk away laughing their asses off pocketing another 30%+ and the government still pays the same if not 2x more per worker bashing the unions.

Apparently none of you are awaken to the agenda and probably never will.

Go ahead and bust up a union, THIS IS WHERE YOUR TAX DOLLARS WILL REALLY COME IN HANDY PAYING FOR ALL THE UNEMPLOYMENT AND MEDICARE AND FOOD STAMPS, FYI no union worker is on any of that because they are paid well.

This is a free country, we have the right to choose where we want to work and who we want to pay to represent us.

YOU ARE THE COMMIE BASTARDS, LETS GET THAT STRAIGHT!
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The concept that union members are all libtard commies is hilarious.

I worked at public agency in CA where all the heavy equipment mechanics were in the SEIU. These were your card carrying NRA members and registered republicans. You wouldn't get to finish calling them a libtard commie to their face because of the new fat lip you'd be sportin before you were done.

I don't recall too many of them bitching about the union because come contract time, all the management people they had to negotiate with, who weren't in a union, were the libtard commies who had never done a real day's work in their lives.

So it doesn't work the same everywhere if you've actually been there.
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I'm a Ron Paul Republican BTW.

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Ron Paul is as republican as Bozo the clown. So you then are not republican. Paul just used the title to get into the debates. His GOP status is why million wouldnt vote for him. He should have dumped that loser party and gone independent right before the GOP convention. He would have won. He was robbed and stbbed in the back by the GOP....bunch of plutocrat dogs....
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The globalist want to take down this country. It seems like the union workers have been duped into pushing globalist agenda.

I am probably not the only one assuming the unions were taken over by some globalist am I?

These unions all started protesting just recently. I can think of 5 union backed strikes in the past month and a half right off the top of my head.
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curiously if you pay attention to the founders of communism and the unions you notice some curious similarities right off the bat
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I figured the Commys from coast to coast would be swarming to Michigan any day now.
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The Media and politicians have turned Americans against Americans. Class warfare. Its just a distraction from the real cause of our suffering - THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS.
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People - I understand the whole unions raised wages and benefits deal. I get it. The law passed does not get rid of unions. It simply gives people a choice of whether they want to work under a union contract or not. Before the law, you had to be a union member to even get a job with a company that had a union contract. In other words, non-union members need not apply.

 Quoting: Major Jim


What people seem to want is the jobs secured through Union efforts and not pay any dues to keep them secure from capitalist scum.

The model for employment is slave-labor abroad in sweatshops.
The jobs in this country that pay any kind of decent wages directly owe the fact to Unions who fought to lift the standard to where it is now.

Your so called "choice" is a false one that only allows the destruction of what has been gained.

If you do not want to work under a Union contract then don't, there are thousands of non-Union jobs...but, but, but,...

You still want the jobs the Unions have created.

The Globalists/Bankers/Fascists applaud you for your efforts to break the Unions of Working People,...I'm sure.

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Fuck all those Union pricks!

It's their goddamn fault that the US is in the state it is now.


Fucking cars should not cost $30,000 fucking dollars.
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Enron
WoldCom
CEO/Senators
Goldman Sacs
HSBC
The FED
Tom DeLay
Wal-Mart sweatshop owners
etc,etc,etc,...

All agree

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Has the union thug who assaulted the news guy been arrested yet?
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wow - no one cares that if a black kid was caught on camera doing this he would be arrested but a white union thug can get away with assault
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These protests and the ensuing violence prove that the elite has succeeded in getting us to fight each other instead of the real enemy. Classic ''divide and conquer'' tactics

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