Are wives/girls leaving their husbands/boyfriends in droves right now?

so true...

whether its the wrong foods, drugs/alcohol, video games, shopping, p0rn, gambling or <insert vice here>... its all addictive and it programs the mind.

but go ahead, no one is stopping you... that would entail your own self discipline.

I agree, but only because every relationship has its ups and downs and when things go south, and if there is one thing I've learned over the years, money makes a big difference. being miserable and fighting when you are poor sucks, I've been there. being miserable and having some money... not so bad. Shoes and sparkly things make me happy after a bad fight.

just being honest. I wish I wasn't so materialistic.

'changing their relationship status'...

this world is going to hell.

no one has any morals or solid character. Principles are gone.

no values, no understanding of what is important in life.

everyone is just jumping around for personal satisfaction...jumping to a 'greener pasture'...

selfishness is paramount and the ONLY thing that matters is self satisfaction.

I believe you... my husband is in his 40s and is self-made in terms of his money. He looks incredible, graduate school education, great job and has confidence. He also gets his share of younger women that flirt with him, especially in the workplace. Just the other day he told me how forward a woman was being with him at a conference he was attending. He said he just laughed and shrugged it off, but he doesn't realize the power a man exudes when they are in their power suit at a conference on Wall Street.

I try not to dwell on it, because as a woman, I know how we operate. But I also believe you cannot make someone love you. You need to hold yourself with enough personal self esteem and confidence that you are worthy of his love, but you cannot ever control him.

Quite the reverse. I am mid-40's and left her. She thinks I am going to work 70-80 hour weeks, do the shopping, take the dog out, and she is going to work 30-40 and sit on the couch reading books and watching survivor.

Dont need her. I'll get a mid-20's model. No different than trading in a used truck that cant haul a load anymore for a new one that can.

Not true for all of us. I went through a rough year a couple years back and was just numb over a situation that happened to me in my marriage - I thought I would never feel happy again. I am still healing but I resolved myself to make it work and so far it is. to be committed is to truly love. because that is what I agreed to when I exchanged our vows to love and honor this man till death do us part. it would have been really easy to stray, I had a few interesting guys in my facebook at the time and a few of them had asked me to coffee or lunch to "catch up". there was one I was particularly drawn to, although he never asked me to meet. I thought about him everyday for about a year - and I knew this was not normal. Well I decided that having lots of opposite sex friends from the past made me someone I did not want to be. I know I have a high sex drive and I know the recipe of what a guy has to say/do to entice me. So I deleted them, all of them who posed a threat to my weakness for the opposite sex. Its not that I am a slut, I am not. I've never cheated, but there are times when I have enjoyed the flirting in the workplace or the way a co-worker looks me over or gives me a double entendre... I've even left a job because I was attracted to my boss, who made it clear he was attracted to me. So there are some women who don't just get off on jumping around, despite how easy it can be. Some of us try to be ladies that men would be proud to call their wives. I would never hurt my husband, or anyone else in a situation that involved cheating, its not worth the pain for some fleeting emotions that will fade away after time.

Those mid-20 models come with their own set of problems too...just like the new trucks vs. the old ones. Did your old truck track your movements on onstar/gps/facebook? Not putting down your argument at all...women (and men) want it all and the longer you are with someone, generally the less you get because both give less. My solution...live alone, line up enough f-buddies to get you through the weeks and be happy discovering yourself and your purpose on this random chunk of rock! Better yourself and whoever you end up with, no matter the mileage, you will be with in a lasting relationship.

Ijust had a good hearty laugh..a laugh of shock! Two weeks ago i left my husband of 7 years. why? i have been loudly directed by the universe to be alone and absorb and learn to hold this new frequency we are now becoming. our daily drama's now crumble and the phoenix that is to be born, is about to leave its nest! god speed my Holders Of Frequency! I feel you as you feel me

Good for u! There is something going on in general and it is big. Trying to objectively look at others, I can see it. I can sure see it in myself...I am damn near homeless by choice... left two hot women and only one was crazy... used to make 6 figs and had it all (material-wise..nothing soul wise). I could go back in an instant but I don't really care about much now...just trying to learn and experience. Living my office space dreams...minus the construction job at the end.

I read somewhere that the reason for this is alien abduction and tampering.

I will contribute in another way saying that I've been going through a break-up and Facebook/single bar scene was probably a big part of the reason. Granted, looking back I wasn't the best guy to her. I think I took her for granted or thought her love was insincere because she lacked confidence if that makes sense. Now that she's more independent I love her more than ever, it's sort of ironic really. It's not only wanting something I can't have, but seeing something I DID have grow and become better without me. It's humbling to say the least.

It is a rare thing that two people can grow because of each other instead of in spite of each other after the fact. Don't beat yourself up about it. Stay away from the FB and the singles bars if you are looking for anything but sex. Go out into the non-drunk and non-virtual world and follow what you want to do...you will find her, and you won't even be looking for her.

Oh yeah the world is geared up for self,self love,self serving attitudes its a narcissistic paradise.I love me who the f*** do you love,"Im worth it" be yourself, be a winner, you deserve it.Its all geared to endemic sense of entitlement "ive got rights" human rights has been so contorted by the those bohemian drop out academic 60's fukin hippies who nurtured this free sex society.and that perverted peado alfred kinsey the champion of the free sex revolution.WE REAP WHAT WE SOW and boy there are some ugly crops religious or not you gotta say the bible has hit the mark

oh my giddy aunt what new age giibberish clap trap.

Kudos for the thoughtful message. Frankly I'm not a big fan of bars or sports. They're too loud and obnoxious for me anyway. Approaching women (or people) in general has always been a challenge for me. The other day I noticed a pretty young girl smiling at me at college. (Just started going back, so I feel a bit old there now.) I looked away quickly, and then gave a classic double glance. Naturally I didn't say anything or reciprocate in a sort of mind implosion, "Not even an awkward wave or hello?! Oh well she probably wasn't looking at me." It's part of the reason I was with my ex, she was very forward with what she wanted with me.

Part of me isn't ready to move on yet either. I still talk with her just about every day and I'm confused to be honest. The advice forums and everyone I talk to would tell me to write her off, but after 5 years and her being my one and only it's been tougher than I could imagine. I don't expect her to fall back into my arms, but some days I hope for it.

This and the partner thread about men is a perfect example of how gender relations (and ergo internal psyche relations) are deteriorating rapidly. Everyone is terrified of being betrayed and therefore cut off and self absorbed. It's an endless cycle of selfishness and self pity.

This thread is exactly what humanity needs to get the fuck over.

Love one another. The end. No ifs. Love. Get to it.

Great post.


But it is kinda hard to love when the Federal Courts are helping women become self absorbed and selfish. Even the TV and the media potrays men as worth less than a ball of puked up cat fur.

Men have always been able to " love " But under todays circumstances they have been made to be easily controlled and betrayed.

Society and the courts/ laws have destroyed mens ability to be treated equally or with fairness. Many men now are seeing it for what it is and are keeping their guards up and options open. This is not their fault.