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Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US

 
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Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US

"We are ready to share the technology of the Iron Dome ... for the defense of the United States by American forces," Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren said during a speech Tuesday in Washington.

The weapon, built by Israel's Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd, has been critical in repelling short-range rocket and mortar attacks from the Gaza Strip into Israeli territory, according to Pentagon officials and their counterparts in Jerusalem."



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why we need that?

hmmmm?

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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
It's the old kinetic energy program that congress shelved.

We already have it.
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
It's the old kinetic energy program that congress shelved.

We already have it.
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but are you looking at the bigger picture?


...we might need it
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
As if the US didnt already know? Everything Israel has is through US intelligence and science..

US has to know it, for sure they have a better system in place anyway
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
how is 85% success rate "fail"? show me a system that has better rate of success on short range missle's.
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US

but are you looking at the bigger picture?


...we might need it



What part of "we already have it" did you not understand?
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
lol. After all our foolish government has done to help Israel and after all the spying Israel, nonetheless, has done on us, if we don't already have the plans to their Iron Dome I say we cut them lose today and forever.
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lol

"Iron Dome" is about as effective as the Patriot anti-missile missile!

cruise

No doubt, Washington will buy the technology from Israel, for trillions of BennyBucks!

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lol. After all our foolish government has done to help Israel and after all the spying Israel, nonetheless, has done on us, if we don't already have the plans to their Iron Dome I say we cut them lose today and forever.
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Get a fuckin' clue!

Your government, and mine, is totally PWN3D by Zio-Banksters!

And, they got the next World War planned and ready to go!

cheers
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lol. After all our foolish government has done to help Israel and after all the spying Israel, nonetheless, has done on us, if we don't already have the plans to their Iron Dome I say we cut them lose today and forever.
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Get a fuckin' clue!

Your government, and mine, is totally PWN3D by Zio-Banksters!

And, they got the next World War planned and ready to go!

cheers
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US

but are you looking at the bigger picture?


...we might need it



What part of "we already have it" did you not understand?
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I've never seen it over here

but we prolly do have it


but do we publicly have it?

We will now...

you don't get something like this without using...

false flag invasion anyone?
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
how is 85% success rate "fail"? show me a system that has better rate of success on short range missle's.
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its jealously lol

its not a fail

its pretty fucking good in my book
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
Israel wants something in return... In which case, it's not called sharing.
Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
90%? ...LMAO, try 47%
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In March alone, the three Iron Dome systems deployed in southern Israel successfully intercepted 80 percent of the 300 rockets and mortars fired into the country from Gaza, Defense Department spokesman George Little said on March 27.


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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
aww, how SWEET!!!
I mean, offering it for a relatively small price after we already paid for it.

Is this a hannuka present or a christmas present>?
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
i guess when you get all your information from iranian and russian state tv you cant help yourself but to lie..
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i guess when you get all your information from iranian and russian state tv you cant help yourself but to lie..
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
90%? ...LMAO, try 47%
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In March alone, the three Iron Dome systems deployed in southern Israel successfully intercepted 80 percent of the 300 rockets and mortars fired into the country from Gaza, Defense Department spokesman George Little said on March 27.


[link to thehill.com]
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Exactly. And Israel tweaks the ID with every rocket basically. So it is getting even more accurate.
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
aww, how SWEET!!!
I mean, offering it for a relatively small price after we already paid for it.

Is this a hannuka present or a christmas present>?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


Chanukah, FTW!

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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
aww, how SWEET!!!
I mean, offering it for a relatively small price after we already paid for it.

Is this a hannuka present or a christmas present>?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


Chanukah, FTW!

1rof1
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dont tell me how to spell it, I seen it put in every window.

the ch is from the orthodox, the h is from reform families
todah for playing along
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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
aww, how SWEET!!!
I mean, offering it for a relatively small price after we already paid for it.

Is this a hannuka present or a christmas present>?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


Chanukah, FTW!

1rof1
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dont tell me how to spell it, I seen it put in every window.

the ch is from the orthodox, the h is from reform families
todah for playing along
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


well... if you want to get technical...

you said "hannuka"

If you do it the "H" way... its Hanukkah

i just wanted to put that out there

cruise

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Re: Israel ready to share Iron Dome technology with US
As if the US didnt already know? Everything Israel has is through US intelligence and science..

US has to know it, for sure they have a better system in place anyway
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Another Canadian/UK/Aussie/Irish ignoramus. Seriously, is there a giant cloning machine spinning you clueless poofsters by the millions? LOL

Basic facts:

1) After the joint Israeli-US LASER program Nautilus was put on hold because it was deemed commercially non-viable until 2015-2020 at earliest...... Iron Dome IS a unique, indigenous Israeli system developed in record-short period of time of just over 2 years --- when even US scientists were saying it couldn't be developed in even in 5, not by the tiny, resource-strapped Israel.

2) It wasn't even operationally deployed until 2011. By comparison, the famed Russian S-300 has been in development since 1960's and already operational in 1979.....Same with American Patriot family.

3) Israel needs at least 15 ID batteries for optmal coverage, but even with US funding, it only had 4 in place when the Operation Amud Anan began last month. That means that we haven't even seen the system even close to its full potential. And for an untested new system using a brand-new concept, its success rate is close to 90% and rising every engagement, even defeating barrags of 20 Hamas rockets simultaneously.

4) Because of Gaza long-rage rockets, Israel had to rush the 5th Iron Dome battery 3 months ahead of schedule in the middle of the conflict. And it managed to do something that even its designers didn't expect -- it recorded first ever intercepts of Iranian heavy long-range rocket Fajr-5 heading for Tel Aviv.

5) Iron Dome cost per intercept has already dropped frrom 60,000 to less than 40,000 --- as with most tech, once the economy-of-scale & production line efficiencies are reached, the cost of Tamir interceptor is expected to be at only 20,000.

6) Conversely, the cost of rockets for Gaza terrorists is only going up --- from cheap Qassam, to less cheap Grad, to even less cheap Chinese extended range Grad, to expensive Fajr-3, Fajr-5 and Zelzal series! Especially after certain *someone* bombed the Iranian built rocket factory & storage facilities in Sudan in October... not to mention annihilated Gaza's billions-dollar worth of terror infrastructure, factorties, underground launchers in November. Hell, now that smuggling tunnels are fewer and Egyptians are more closely monitoring their side of Sinai, the Sinai bedouin smugglers' fees are skyrocketing --- thus raising the cost of transporting of those "cheap" Gaza rockets many-fold. LOL, why do you think Hamas was begging for the cease-fire? Gaza as a whole was getting bankrupted :)

7) The increased interest in the Iron Dome system by South Korea, Singapore, Colombia, India, etc and of course the US.... means that Israel will be making PROFIT from Iron Dome before long. Hell, US Foreign Military Aid already partialy off-sets the costs as it is, so the rest is just gravy for Rafael, IAI and other Israeli industries. So much for ID "bankrupting" Israel as the clueless haters were predicting years ago.

8) Iron Dome saved BILLIONS of dollars by allowed Israeli leadership to pound terrorists from the air, without getting boggged down in a very costly, bloody, month+ long LAND operation in Gaza strip itself. So in effect, Iron Dome already paid for its entire development costs just during the last round of fighting alone! Amazing!

9) ID also raises the prestige & credibility of other Israeli industries. So for instance, IAI and major Indian defense company just signed a Memorandum-of-Understanding on expanding production of Barak-8 missiles, potentially worth close to billion dollars. Now Israel is highly thought of in the corporate/industrial world as a whole, but who's to say that Iron Dome's

10) Israel is partering with US on variety of projects. Boeing is workgin with Israel on the most sophisticated & yet also most cost-effective EXO-atmospheric intercepter, called "Arrow-3". Raytheon is working with Rafael on next generation of "Magic Wand" system that was just successfully live-tested last week. So Iron Dome's technology can help US, while US can in turn sell Israel a few 1,000 bunker-busters for free. Win-win situations (unless you're Jihadi, that is) :)





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