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Breaking!! North Korea fires Long Range Missile

 
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If NK detonated an EMP over the US we would nuke them into the stone age. It would be suicide and they know this. Never going to happen. It's most likely a simple satellite, like a weather satellite.
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You have way to much confidence in a government headed by a guy who wants to get rid of our nukes and doesn't give a rats ass about whether you live or die.

We certainly have the ability to intercept a missle and we have the ability to turn NK into a glowing pile of glass. What we don't have is an executive branch that cares about those abilities beyond the results of the next political poll.

Remember the Russian sub in the Gulf a few months ago? Remember the missle off the coast of CA a little over a year ago? There are bigger threats we aren't doing a damn thing about. If/when someone decides to light off an EMP attack, our response is highly likely to be too little too late.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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North American Aerospace Defense Command: North Korean missile appears to have launched 'an object' into orbit - >> [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Say what?
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Coincidence or hind sight??? X-37B just got launched today.

Wonder if its gonna mess with the N. Korean satellite and maybe make it go dark???

Then all the Western powers could chuckle over the satellite being a failure, implying that N. Korea is a failure....
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Better a satellite failing IN orbit than loosing manned missions like Challenger and Columbia.
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Shit just got real...
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Personally, I think this is a game-changing event.

Here's why: (It's generally been known, and even confirmed again by CNN's NK-analysts tonight, that "every missile-system that NK has ever made, they've sold to Iran".)

So, given that, and given that NK already has successfully tested N-weapons, then, we see this (long-range missile test now, also successful)...one doesn't have to be a math wiz to see that - the (public) fear declared by Israel of Iran getting a N-weapon (even though the fear somewhat blunted, during the VP presidential debates, saying that "Iran doesn't have a delivery system") is now...right on center stage and the declared "blunting" now, no longer relevant, since they now will soon "have the delivery system" - to me, speeds up the time table, dramatically.

It therefore (from Israel's perspective), is no longer an issue of (how many months away is Iran from the N-weapon with delivery capability?)...rather, it's now (how many days/weeks away is NK from transferring one or both, the N-weapon and the delivery system to Iran?).

This puts (especially) Israel and potentially Europe, Japan and Austraila in a zone of serious (additional peril) - peril that did not exist prior to tonight.

My Conclusion, (like Pastor Dan Bohler's vision, discussed last August), yes, I believe unfortunately (EVEN IN THIS MONTH OF DECEMBER), we'll very possibly see tens of thousands of missiles reigning down on Israel.)

May the Most High be praised forever
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.. would it be funny if S.K.s satellite launch attempts doesn't get any further than N.K.s? That would be rib slapping funny.

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funny ? ... fucking embarrassing rather...
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Oh well take heart, there are a long line of such failures, starting with even the V-2s of White Sands, and those of the former USSR, and all the failed satellite launches of the USSR and the USA at the Dawn of the Space Age. lots and lots of failures.

But if you don't try, you have already failed, isn't that how the saying goes?
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North Korea is taking there steps to true freedom . They have launched there shuttle and are going spacebound. As they rightfully could defying the ruling governments that have far to intimidated to actually venture forth and do . North Korea changes there world on 12/12/12 forever as of this day north Korea is now in the space race and a global power to
Be recognized.
In a sense the went on strike from this popal global law and said hey fuck you I'm doing what I want!
Again protestors here in the states ya got showed up again, didn't I tell you already if you're not going to change the world or tear it all down then don't bother waisting ecerybodies time.
If ya dint like your jobs quit and start your own business ... If you want more money well I told you already ....
Bravo north Korea
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Humorous.....a country that can not feed its own people can not be a super power
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you must not know much about your own country and the situation a lot of its people face
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If NK detonated an EMP over the US we would nuke them into the stone age. It would be suicide and they know this. Never going to happen. It's most likely a simple satellite, like a weather satellite.
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If we are the target of an EmP how are we going to launch anything? Would we not need electricity?
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Saftey Matches. They still make them don't they?
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Shit just got real...
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whatever peace
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12/12/2012 12:28 AM
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I think North Korea is ZERO on threat scale. I watched tapes of how people are living there PLUS they give other countries thier citizens for free in Labor Camp. Want links of videos?
 Quoting: FASNYC


I agree with you. However, desperation makes people do CRAZY illogical things.

North Korea is literally starving, also subject to continuous sanctions because of their constant misbehaving. Their 'dear leader' could identify with a martyr type philosophy since they are so close to being snuffed out by nature already.
 Quoting: FuckNorthKorea 26290014


My spine Dr moved here when he was little. We spoke about the VICE GUIDE TO N KOREA & N Korea work camps in Siberia. His words "lucky my mom got out" he tells me all the time how the people are oppressed, major cities don't have electricity. The ruling family fucked the entire country, bad. The best part is a ruler that died in the 90.s. The people thier don't have much food but IF you can get a visa to visit you a) stay on a strict Govt tour where they lay out food for 200 but you will be only one eating for the image that there is a ton of food. Thier propaganda is so 1940's and b) they control everything you stay in.

Check out this video in YouTube who had a visa and a bridge to get to next place was closed so his tour bus went down a different route, not the normal one and it exposes the conditions...


Times are changing!
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Personally, I think this is a game-changing event.

Here's why: (It's generally been known, and even confirmed again by CNN's NK-analysts tonight, that "every missile-system that NK has ever made, they've sold to Iran".)

So, given that, and given that NK already has successfully tested N-weapons, then, we see this (long-range missile test now, also successful)...one doesn't have to be a math wiz to see that - the (public) fear declared by Israel of Iran getting a N-weapon (even though the fear somewhat blunted, during the VP presidential debates, saying that "Iran doesn't have a delivery system") is now...right on center stage and the declared "blunting" now, no longer relevant, since they now will soon "have the delivery system" - to me, speeds up the time table, dramatically.

It therefore (from Israel's perspective), is no longer an issue of (how many months away is Iran from the N-weapon with delivery capability?)...rather, it's now (how many days/weeks away is NK from transferring one or both, the N-weapon and the delivery system to Iran?).

This puts (especially) Israel and potentially Europe, Japan and Austraila in a zone of serious (additional peril) - peril that did not exist prior to tonight.

My Conclusion, (like Pastor Dan Bohler's vision, discussed last August), yes, I believe unfortunately (EVEN IN THIS MONTH OF DECEMBER), we'll very possibly see tens of thousands of missiles reigning down on Israel.)

May the Most High be praised forever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25140151


What do you mean, unfortunately? Those devils have had it coming for 50 years.
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Times are changing!
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If... big if, NK has succeeded in placing a satellite in orbit, do you think they are sophisticated enough to take into account all the other satellites already in orbit ?
Is there going to be a collision later today, tomorrow or next week?

dynamite
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If... big if, NK has succeeded in placing a satellite in orbit, do you think they are sophisticated enough to take into account all the other satellites already in orbit ?
Is there going to be a collision later today, tomorrow or next week?

dynamite
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They can, yes. Though it's not impossible they made a mistake.
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Cool. Maybe the whole technical issue and trucking in a new part was all a ruse. Would be surprised if the US and Japan were not ready for that though - would be embarrassing.
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Same thing happened when Clinton was in office and India conducted the nuclear test. Completely caught off guard and red faces galore.
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North American Aerospace Defense Command: North Korean missile appears to have launched 'an object' into orbit - >> [link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15733162

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15733162


Possible EMP Weapon? Maybe that new Red Dawn remake was foreshadowing.

damned
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Why don't they just have some fucking BALLS and shoot the fucking piece of shit down!!!
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If NK detonated an EMP over the US we would nuke them into the stone age. It would be suicide and they know this. Never going to happen. It's most likely a simple satellite, like a weather satellite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483


You have way to much confidence in a government headed by a guy who wants to get rid of our nukes and doesn't give a rats ass about whether you live or die.

We certainly have the ability to intercept a missle and we have the ability to turn NK into a glowing pile of glass. What we don't have is an executive branch that cares about those abilities beyond the results of the next political poll.

Remember the Russian sub in the Gulf a few months ago? Remember the missle off the coast of CA a little over a year ago? There are bigger threats we aren't doing a damn thing about. If/when someone decides to light off an EMP attack, our response is highly likely to be too little too late.
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Your assessment is spot on. I agree wholeheartedly.
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Personally, I think this is a game-changing event.

Here's why: (It's generally been known, and even confirmed again by CNN's NK-analysts tonight, that "every missile-system that NK has ever made, they've sold to Iran".)

So, given that, and given that NK already has successfully tested N-weapons, then, we see this (long-range missile test now, also successful)...one doesn't have to be a math wiz to see that - the (public) fear declared by Israel of Iran getting a N-weapon (even though the fear somewhat blunted, during the VP presidential debates, saying that "Iran doesn't have a delivery system") is now...right on center stage and the declared "blunting" now, no longer relevant, since they now will soon "have the delivery system" - to me, speeds up the time table, dramatically.

It therefore (from Israel's perspective), is no longer an issue of (how many months away is Iran from the N-weapon with delivery capability?)...rather, it's now (how many days/weeks away is NK from transferring one or both, the N-weapon and the delivery system to Iran?).

This puts (especially) Israel and potentially Europe, Japan and Austraila in a zone of serious (additional peril) - peril that did not exist prior to tonight.

My Conclusion, (like Pastor Dan Bohler's vision, discussed last August), yes, I believe unfortunately (EVEN IN THIS MONTH OF DECEMBER), we'll very possibly see tens of thousands of missiles reigning down on Israel.)

May the Most High be praised forever
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hiding
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Shit just got real...
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whatever peace
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Oh hell yeah
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Breaking!! North Korea fires Long Range Missile

Yonhap is reporting this (South korean MSM)
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they finally managed to get the bottle to stand upright?
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