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Does doing the will of God mean surrendering one's personal sovereignty.... or for the first time ever finally establishing it? Eph6:9

 
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Does doing the will of God mean surrendering one's personal sovereignty.... or for the first time ever finally establishing it? Eph6:9
" Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6;10
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" Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6;10
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By establishing his own 'worship me godship' Satan has mislead mankind away from making earthly Edenic paradise and into building him a nuclear military industrial complex to exterminate every living thing. Why can't we fight back collectively and defeat him?
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" Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6;10
 Quoting: DGN


By establishing his own 'worship me godship' Satan has mislead mankind away from making earthly Edenic paradise and into building him a nuclear military industrial complex to exterminate every living thing. Why can't we fight back collectively and defeat him?
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Because as a good JW you are NOT ALLOWED into any form of "Military" or "ARMY" of any kind..
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Just give up....
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" Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6;10
 Quoting: DGN


By establishing his own 'worship me godship' Satan has mislead mankind away from making earthly Edenic paradise and into building him a nuclear military industrial complex to exterminate every living thing. Why can't we fight back collectively and defeat him?
 Quoting: DGN


Because as a good JW you are NOT ALLOWED into any form of "Military" or "ARMY" of any kind..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16345337


I was in the military during Nam, refused to finish my tour of duty when we came back. I couldn't condone dropping tons of bombs on innocent village families. I learned a smarter spiritual warfare in defense off all mankind against our common enemy;
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to [what we are in the] flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things. 5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God; and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ" 2Cor10:3
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Re: Does doing the will of God mean surrendering one's personal sovereignty.... or for the first time ever finally establishing it? Eph6:9
" Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6;10
 Quoting: DGN


By establishing his own 'worship me godship' Satan has mislead mankind away from making earthly Edenic paradise and into building him a nuclear military industrial complex to exterminate every living thing. Why can't we fight back collectively and defeat him?
 Quoting: DGN


Because as a good JW you are NOT ALLOWED into any form of "Military" or "ARMY" of any kind..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16345337


I was in the military during Nam, refused to finish my tour of duty when we came back. I couldn't condone dropping tons of bombs on innocent village families. I learned a smarter spiritual warfare in defense off all mankind against our common enemy;
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to [what we are in the] flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things. 5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God; and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the (THE)Christ" 2Cor10:3
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Nice new age stanic corrupted bible ya using there.

What that verse ACTUALLY says is..

2Co 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, butG235 mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds,
2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;(Not THE christ..a NEW AGE term)

I have BOLDED the words that you jws have ADDED to your twisted satanic new age peice of crap..thus changing the WHOLE MEANING of the verse.

You do this all the time.

Your bible IN NO WAY is anything like the originals.

I know..I USE TO BE a JW many years ago...I KNOW how deep the brainwashing and deception goes.

YOUR BIBLE is NOT the bible..its UTTERLY SATANIC.

But then..it WAS comissioned by a panel of spitists and mediums LED by Russel..a KNOWN MASON.

Have ya looked up his GRAVE site yet?

ITS A PYRAMID..covered in MASONIC SYMBOLS...located just down the road from a MASONIC LODGE.

You lot and the mormons are the SAME..a MASONIC CULT.
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Re: Does doing the will of God mean surrendering one's personal sovereignty.... or for the first time ever finally establishing it? Eph6:9
" Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6;10
 Quoting: DGN


It means to try to see the world with his eyes:

All people on this earth are his sons or daughters, he created them.

All people should like, or better love, each other like he loves you yourself or your sister or brother before god.

All people should act like that in deeds, thinking and words.

You are here on a learning curve. This earth provides the best means to advance quickly.

Take your chance, pal, and advance quickly.

The rest will be seen by your own eyes.
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By establishing his own 'worship me godship' Satan has mislead mankind away from making earthly Edenic paradise and into building him a nuclear military industrial complex to exterminate every living thing. Why can't we fight back collectively and defeat him?
 Quoting: DGN


Because as a good JW you are NOT ALLOWED into any form of "Military" or "ARMY" of any kind..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16345337


I was in the military during Nam, refused to finish my tour of duty when we came back. I couldn't condone dropping tons of bombs on innocent village families. I learned a smarter spiritual warfare in defense off all mankind against our common enemy;
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to [what we are in the] flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things. 5 For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God; and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the (THE)Christ" 2Cor10:3
 Quoting: DGN


Nice new age stanic corrupted bible ya using there.

What that verse ACTUALLY says is..

2Co 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, butG235 mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds,
2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;(Not THE christ..a NEW AGE term)

I have BOLDED the words that you jws have ADDED to your twisted satanic new age peice of crap..thus changing the WHOLE MEANING of the verse.

You do this all the time.

Your bible IN NO WAY is anything like the originals.

I know..I USE TO BE a JW many years ago...I KNOW how deep the brainwashing and deception goes.

YOUR BIBLE is NOT the bible..its UTTERLY SATANIC.

But then..it WAS comissioned by a panel of spitists and mediums LED by Russel..a KNOWN MASON.

Have ya looked up his GRAVE site yet?

ITS A PYRAMID..covered in MASONIC SYMBOLS...located just down the road from a MASONIC LODGE.

You lot and the mormons are the SAME..a MASONIC CULT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16345337



" I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them." Rv19:17
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FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, WAR IS PEACE and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!!!

IN RELIGION WE TRUST.
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FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, WAR IS PEACE and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!!!

IN RELIGION WE TRUST.
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Kinda like politics, only difference is one's god is visible.
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" Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6;10
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Both, by God Mercy and Grace. This place is a duality if not manifold-ality.
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FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, WAR IS PEACE and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!!!

IN RELIGION WE TRUST.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


Jehovah gives fair warning about religion being a snare and a racket, no doubt;
"These are fountains without water, and mists driven by a violent storm, and for them the blackness of darkness has been reserved. 18 For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one." 2Pe2:17

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