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WHAT does THIS MEAN? ... (ScienceTards / Religitards)?

 
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"Daniel 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
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You ever see a case of a human body rejecting a donor organ?

Use your imagination. The body will fight off and reject all foreign matter.

Even transgenic bio implants.

Clones die young.

etc etc.
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you're taling about main-line science.
THEY are way beyond anything seen above board.
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The passage indicates that there is some non-human entity that desires to mix their DNA with ours ... for some reason...

"WHO are 'THEY'?

And ...

WHY?
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What would the benefit be to some "Superior Race" ... to intermingle with US ... "The miry CLAY"?
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imo

who? Lucifer and the fallen angels

why? because of pride

Isaiah 14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
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What would the benefit be to some "Superior Race" ... to intermingle with US ... "The miry CLAY"?
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so lucifer can say "look daddy, i made something, and it worships me and not you"

just like there doesn't have to be a reasonable benefit to doing evil stuff
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Hmmm?

Meaning that this "SUPER RACE" is EXCLUDED from ONE Benefit?

Ascending to "Heaven"?

UNLESS ... Somehow ...

"THEY" could re-unite with Humans ... Who still have an opportunity to Ascend to "HEAVEN"?

If "THEY" could breed with humans ...

"THEY" might have one last 'chance' at redemption?

Interesting... ?
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...

Brought THIS to Mind ...

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Genesis 6:2

King James Version (KJV)


2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
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Hmmm?

Meaning that this "SUPER RACE" is EXCLUDED from ONE Benefit?

Ascending to "Heaven"?

UNLESS ... Somehow ...

"THEY" could re-unite with Humans ... Who still have an opportunity to Ascend to "HEAVEN"?

If "THEY" could breed with humans ...

"THEY" might have one last 'chance' at redemption?

Interesting... ?
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job, the lawnmower man, was desperate to escape to the "real world" because her was consumed with pride

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Also...


I always have thought that the story of "Jacob's Ladder" ...


Was really a VISION of the DNA - "Double-Helix" ...

Jacob SAW the true "GOD" Particle: ...

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Genesis 28:10-22

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10 And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran.

11 And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep.

12 And he dreamed, and behold a LADDER set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God "ASCENDING AND DESCENDING" on it.

13 And, behold, the Lord stood above it, and said, I am the Lord God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;

14 And thy seed shall be as the "DUST OF THE EARTH", and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy SEED shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

15 And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.

16 And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the Lord is in this place; and I knew it not.
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if you know the plan , why are you asking?
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"Daniel 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
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Blood is thinner than water with them, they have no empathy.
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I DON'T "Know the Plan" ...

I am asking because I think there are greater and deeper thinkers than me ...


And I keep an open mind.


I am only speaking from my own heart.
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"Blood is thinner than water with them, they have no empathy.".


That's really deep...

Hope that you are wrong.

I suspect that you are Not.
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You can class 'them' as sociopaths, they have no family feeling they're actors for whom a family is a mask and a tool.
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Found THIS verse:

(Maybe referring to Lucifer and his Army? ... Sad ... He CHOSE to rebel?)?

"13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.".

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Could THIS be the "THEY" that I am looking for?
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Thanks...

The King was still troubled by this question ... As I am...

He assembled all of his Scientists...

They had no answer.

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We have Thousands of minds on this forum...

Still looking for a plausible answer ... Thousands of years later ...
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A gift was given to Daniel to interpret dreams. The king was unable to interpret the meaning of his own dream. He did not understand the symbolism. The dream was frightening to him.

He was to ask what the interpretation was so he could understand it. He asked several times for his dream to be interpreted and they told him "We can't interpret your dream unless you tell us what you dream was." (paraphrasing) and the King was not satisfied with that answer. He not only wanted somebody to interpret his dream, but he wanted somebody to know what his dream was without him having to tell them what it was. This ability, I believe, if I remember correctly was given to Daniel. Daniel told the King his dream and interpreted it for him.

In verse 11, that you pointed out, his servants were trying to tell him no human being can KNOW your dream as you are expecting us to AND interpret it, only gods could do this (because they couldn't and saw it as impossible).

I just double-checked and yes, that's right. Don't look for hidden meanings. It means what it says, OP. It's not talking about DNA or anything like that. If you read all of it, you would know.

Read verse 19 and on, it looks like... the ability was given to Daniel so that his life would be spared because if he wasn't able to meet this impossible request of the king, he would have been killed, so God made it possible.
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All this desire for money ... and jewels and "BLING" ...

" ... thou shalt be a terror ..." ...

Wow!

Never Really thought about it like this...

Wow!
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To continue:

If you keep reading from Daniel 2:19 on and get to verse 31, he begins to tell the king the exact dream he had and what it meant. It continues until verse 45, then in verse 46 the king fell on his face in front of Daniel because he knew what he had done was a miracle and goes on to say in 47 "Truly your God is the God of gods, the Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, since you could reveal this secret."

Hope this makes it clearer.
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But...

BACK to the Original Question ...

Can ANYONE:

Scientist or Religionist ...

Give a Valid Answer?


"Who are "THEY" in the previously quoted passage?


???
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Meant no offense ...

Just asking....

Scientific Minds ... Or Religious minds ...

"Who are "THEY"?".
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science or religion is the same as long as we are not able to have on us, but to make a joke, we have toilets where we're going to do shit.poop
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Daniel 2:43

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43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY SHALL mingle Themselves with the seed of men: but THEY shall not cleave ONE TO ANOTHER, even as IRON is NOT mixed with CLAY.
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"46 the king fell on his face in front of Daniel because he knew what he had done was a miracle and goes on to say in...


47:

"Truly your God is the God of gods, the Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, since you could reveal this secret."


Wow!


"Who are "THEY"?
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Genesis 2:4:

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when THEY were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
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Re: WHAT does THIS MEAN? ... (ScienceTards / Religitards)?
Oh ...

Now I see it...

"They" are not claiming themselves as Sons or Daughters of God ...

"They" are JUST "THEY" ... "THEM" ... "Those who ARE/But ARE NOT" ...

The Wanderers among the "Firey Stones" ... Lifeless ... Strangers...

Now I SEE IT!

"THEY" need a body to inhabit ... The "Vampires" ... The "SOUL SUCKERS" ...

The Very ONES who would steal YOUR Boyfriend/Girlfriend ...

Those who would WOUND 'GOOD PEOPLE' ...

"The Adversary"!

Thank you ALL!

Now I see it!

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