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getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!

 
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no this isnt wayne?
rehab isnt really an option
and thanks for all the support. this stuff sucks but i gota do it....
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I think weed might take the edge off.. and sleep aids. See doctor if you can they got some thing subtoxne or something.. might help.. If you're doing it cold turkey it might be dangerous..
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
no this isnt wayne?
rehab isnt really an option
and thanks for all the support. this stuff sucks but i gota do it....
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I think weed might take the edge off.. and sleep aids. See doctor if you can they got some thing subtoxne or something.. might help.. If you're doing it cold turkey it might be dangerous..
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btw, I feel for ya.. I'm hooked on percs and oxy just taking them normally/orally for back pain.. Its no where near the same as your condition but this shit runs my life at times.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
no this isnt wayne?
rehab isnt really an option
and thanks for all the support. this stuff sucks but i gota do it....
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I think weed might take the edge off.. and sleep aids. See doctor if you can they got some thing subtoxne or something.. might help.. If you're doing it cold turkey it might be dangerous..
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btw, I feel for ya.. I'm hooked on percs and oxy just taking them normally/orally for back pain.. Its no where near the same as your condition but this shit runs my life at times.
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No offense but how are you hooked on Oxy. I was forced to quit when the supply went dry after Oxyneo came out which is a bitch to by-pass.
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seriously though folks- this is a miracle at work here. some of you have no idea... i mean im barely taking any suboxone and im fine.. completely fine... i prayed and i prayed... GOD is on my side with this one... I am truly blessed... I love you all, and I love GOD!
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Has anyone suggested a Narcotics Anonymous meeting? 'the therapudic value of one addict helping another" to stay clean.

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Wait till you start shitting that black stuff that smells so bad you gag...

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Can't get any sleep at all... withdrawling insanely... first day... this sucks so bad ....omfg... if anyone can throw out anything that will help me or just chat, im all ears...
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Be strong brother! That is about the only advice I can give. I am a recovering addict as well but instead of heroin I was a oxy addict. The difference is minimal I know, opiates are fucking hell. Unless you have been through it then you really just have no clue how incredible hard it is just to make it through a single day much less the rest of our lives. I commend you and wish you the very best of luck.If you get through this in one piece, you can accomplish and conquer every thing this life has to try and bring you down. You have my prayers and positive vibes sent your way, again GOOD LUCK!

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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
I've been following this thread for a few days, I just wanted to make a comment at how amazing and supportive some of the people of GLP can be...it warms my heart to see others trying to support someone they have never met, sometimes this kind of support is what helps people get through the day.
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If they have family who is too nosey or judgemental it gets overwhelming and the relapse could be right around the corner as the stress levels increase for the individual.

OP I am keeping you in my heart. I hope the worst of it is over for you, just know there are always people here (from EVERY walk of life) who have may have experienced something similar. Its always nice to have people to chat with who you can relate to and I just want to say some of the people on this thread have really opened up and shared a part of their life with you as you have with them. I have a very addictive personality when it comes to substances and I have tried to stay away from some of the harder ones, I can't imagine how hard it could be to come off of some of them...I am keeping you in my heart as you overcome this!
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Thank you this means a lot... I know I can't believe some people on here can be so loving and supportive!!! I just got some suboxones.... I used again yesterday... small dose.. back to square one :/ ... I have 3 suboxones though so I should be fine - these things work WONDERS!!! So, starting today as day 1 again. Thanks for all the support people! It really means a lot..... I'm doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
no this isnt wayne?
rehab isnt really an option
and thanks for all the support. this stuff sucks but i gota do it....
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I think weed might take the edge off.. and sleep aids. See doctor if you can they got some thing subtoxne or something.. might help.. If you're doing it cold turkey it might be dangerous..
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This is fantastic advise. I got put on subutex to overcome my addiction, and so far it has worked. BUT don't trade one for the other! Suboxone or subutex are still opiates and still dangerous.
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KRAHTOM LEAVES USED FOR CENTURIES BUY AT BOUNCING BEAR HERB SUPPLY REALLY WORKS I MEAN REALL WORKS. GOOD LUCK
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i know someone whp did this it works
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Can't get any sleep at all... withdrawling insanely... first day... this sucks so bad ....omfg... if anyone can throw out anything that will help me or just chat, im all ears...
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Hang in there bud.
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Can't get any sleep at all... withdrawling insanely... first day... this sucks so bad ....omfg... if anyone can throw out anything that will help me or just chat, im all ears...
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Hang in there bud.
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He made it thru the worst part.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
I'll jump on the bandwagon, weekend meth user for 1-2 years. Getting clean, horrible force like you state. Havn't touch heroine but goodluck mate. Not many people even know I touched the stuff but I chose to tell some few to help me. I'm not in a bad situation with it, although it sucked alot of good friends in and already wrecked who they could of been and accomplished in life in that short span.

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I'll jump on the bandwagon, weekend meth user for 1-2 years. Getting clean, horrible force like you state. Havn't touch heroine but goodluck mate. Not many people even know I touched the stuff but I chose to tell some few to help me. I'm not in a bad situation with it, although it sucked alot of good friends in and already wrecked who they could of been and accomplished in life in that short span.
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Congrats on getting clean hf I was a meth addict for several years then quit that by replacing it with heroin and quit that by replacing it with alcohol(present).

Its a tough battle and not many make it out.
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The absolute toughest drug to kick is nicotine. Ask any former heroin user which is worse-withdrawl from heroin, or quitting cigs. Chances are they are still smoking.
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The absolute toughest drug to kick is nicotine. Ask any former heroin user which is worse-withdrawl from heroin, or quitting cigs. Chances are they are still smoking.
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lmfao thats me, but only because you don't see the negatives from smoking as strongly as you do while addicted to heroin.
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doing it cold turkey or you going the suboxone/methadone route? I tried both those, suboxone seemed to work better for me with less side effects. I was clean for years, went to college and graduated 3rd in my class then got hurt at work 7 months after I took my first job related to my field of study in school. Now I'm having knee surgery after knee surgery and stuck in the void again.
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I know me personally, every time I clean up for significant amounts of time I ALWAYS end up in the hospital with some messed up shit like kidney stones, knee surgeries, something always keeps me coming back in the end.
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The absolute toughest drug to kick is nicotine. Ask any former heroin user which is worse-withdrawl from heroin, or quitting cigs. Chances are they are still smoking.
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lmfao thats me, but only because you don't see the negatives from smoking as strongly as you do while addicted to heroin.
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I quit smoking two days ago also. Im doin amazing. Thread can now be over :) THanks for all the help everyone... I really did it... consciousness controls reality!
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The absolute toughest drug to kick is nicotine. Ask any former heroin user which is worse-withdrawl from heroin, or quitting cigs. Chances are they are still smoking.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


lmfao thats me, but only because you don't see the negatives from smoking as strongly as you do while addicted to heroin.
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I quit smoking two days ago also. Im doin amazing. Thread can now be over :) THanks for all the help everyone... I really did it... consciousness controls reality!
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Good on you OP stay strong, glad to hear you've made the step in the right direction to a better life hf
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Smoke some weed and drink some green tea. If you truly want to get clean, you will. Dont give up. Be strong.
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cant smoke weed n thats the main reason im freaking out.... weed makes this easier... but i have a job drugtest coming soon.... green tea i will try though
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Obviously your job is important to you but your wellbeing comes first, if weed helps then do it. Thoughts are with you mate.
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The absolute toughest drug to kick is nicotine. Ask any former heroin user which is worse-withdrawl from heroin, or quitting cigs. Chances are they are still smoking.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


lmfao thats me, but only because you don't see the negatives from smoking as strongly as you do while addicted to heroin.
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I quit smoking two days ago also. Im doin amazing. Thread can now be over :) THanks for all the help everyone... I really did it... consciousness controls reality!
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First congrats...second, it's never over. You have to be ever vigilant.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
Hey OP hope you're staying strong. After four months of being clean off heroin i relapsed today on dilaudid IV and absolutely disgusted with myself.

The addiction road is a tough one and i wish you all the best.

Back to square one for me tissue
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Hey OP hope you're staying strong. After four months of being clean off heroin i relapsed today on dilaudid IV and absolutely disgusted with myself.

The addiction road is a tough one and i wish you all the best.

Back to square one for me tissue
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seriously though folks- this is a miracle at work here. some of you have no idea... i mean im barely taking any suboxone and im fine.. completely fine... i prayed and i prayed... GOD is on my side with this one... I am truly blessed... I love you all, and I love GOD!
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Keep praying, stay grateful, you will get what you want and need.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
for anyone trying to detox...

this thread got huge and i didn't read it all so some of these suggestions might have already been given, but this is what worked for me.

if you're sick off a major habit here's what you do:
- take 800 mg tagamet(cimetidine)
- an hour later take as much quinine and quercetin as possible. quinine is in tonic water, and quercetin is in FRS energy drink. I recommend dissolving 3 packets of FRS powder drink into a liter of tonic water so it'll taste better than either one by itself.
- about 20 minutes after finishing the liquids, take 80-100mg immodium(loperamide). you won't shit for 2-3 days but you're already used to that. wait 1-2 hours, and you'll get the effect of about 50mg demerol... not much, but enough to take out much of the opioid w/d effects. increasing the dose of immodium may increase the effect some, but taking more than 100mg is not recommended.

the science:
loperamide is an opioid. normally it only affects the opioid receptors in your gut, because loperamide does not normally cross the blood-brain barrier thanks to p-glycoprotein, aka Multidrug Resistant Protein 1. quinine and quercetin are proven to inhibit the effect of this protein, allowing many drugs to enter your brain from your bloodstream normally can't.

also: once you are clean from opiates for 3-4 days, the withdrawal symptoms subside, other than the psychological symptoms and insomnia. if possible, take a benzodiazepine to sleep. otherwise just try nyQuil(doxylamine). for mood regulation during post-withdrawal, L-Tyrosine has been proven effective. you can obtain this at GNC.

and that's how I got clean.

so you need 5 things:
tonic water
FRS
generic loperamide
generic cimetidine
L-Tyrosine
and optionally, a sleep aid, the stronger the better.
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I'm on day nine-ish, smoking herb helps, you can do it, its the pure boredom you must learn to deal with.

About the pain and no sleep, OP, the piper always gets his money ....


after about a week or 2 you'll be back to normal

Pray to God and Jesus for help, only they can help you..
and maybe a little Tylenol pm, lol
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Pussy's, stop crying while you're dope sick ?? don't be a pussy, just stop, you did this to your self, pay the piper.

I've cold turkeyed merely to get my tolerance back down,
Just trash your phone and/or piss off your dealers some how, that way they stop dealing with you.

life will seem fun again after about 2 weeks of not doing shit, you'll hear the birds again...

Poppy is a consciousnesses that's attempting to guaranty its existence by consuming those that eat of it..

If you can successfully kick, you can do anything
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Eat chocolate, trust me, chocolate helps teach your brain to start making dopamine again, your brains natural pain killer.

Thus your body has to make more dopamine before it can begin to release it normally again.

When a person becomes an addict, this problem only becomes worse, each use of heroin adding to the last. Finally, when the cells that create dopamine are put under a significant amount of stress, they will start to shut down, producing less dopamine. This is one of the reasons that withdrawal from heroin is so extreme.

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