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getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!

 
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oh they fall off the wagon a lot of them, I think it takes more one try, it's up there with nicotine, very very very addictive, so I just wish you well. give up the junk but don't give up trying to get off it. People who knew you before the habit will be glad to have you back, it makes a zombie of folks.

Don't give up trying to get off it.


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this is like my 20th try i lost count
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Sleeping pills

Warm baths

Soup

Bed

TV

Subutex

If possible

Ibogaine HCL

Clonidine

Benzos for 3 days

A spotter

Taper first

Weed

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once you realize that heroin has become destructiveness force in your life which is more powerful then you, it becomes clear that you will need the help of a power greater than yourself.

I suggest praying for relief from the obsessive desire to continue in the insanity of addiction, and checking into a local rehab, and consider a 12 step program.
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This is very good
everything in its right place
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Smoke some weed and drink some green tea. If you truly want to get clean, you will. Dont give up. Be strong.
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If you are anything like me weed isn't a good idea. Weed will keep you trapped in the vicious cycle. There is no struggle in surrender, only in holding on.
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Im not talking long term abuse here, just for use whilst OP is feeling unwell. The cannabis will ease his pain and symptoms in the short term, giving him chance to completely withdraw from the heroin, and will not give him unwelcome side effects or further addiction problems.
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Can't get any sleep at all... withdrawling insanely... first day... this sucks so bad ....omfg... if anyone can throw out anything that will help me or just chat, im all ears...
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Avoid Methadone,you will be feeling great in two to three weeks but still raw.Concentrate on nothing but getting through this minute only, make no long term plans for months, be kind to yourself and figure out how to make amends to the people you saddened through your addiction.Change your freinds and become selfless and focused.It can be done and give god a look again,if you maintain the discipline to achieve this and you don't get bitter he will show up. Good luck
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Lol I couldn't imagine what Heroin is like.

Ive been right hooked on blow and meth. And that's nothing compared to it.
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where the hell do i get that?
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Anywhere they sell nutritional suppliments.
Walmart
[link to www.walmart.com]

Amazon, Boots if you are in the UK.

[link to www.webmd.com]

It has a nice muscle relaxing effect on me. If it works as indicated by the study you should see positive results.

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trust me if u want out of it . steal last score get high then rat em all and gtfo town.. u wont have a supply and or if u do stik around town u will die.. however i only did it for like 18 months and everything i knew went to crap anyways so its wat i did to get away from it
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I'm withdrawing from opiate addiction right now ......lortabs and percocets


if you have ever done this before then you already know about the diarrhea ...I combat this with Imodium

Water makes me sick to my stomach during withdraws so I only drink water if I'm eating ....otherwise I'm pounding powerade

I also take a multi vitamin every day and I take a b complex

For the muscle aches I take a very long hot shower....as hot as I can take it and I just let it run along my neck and shoulders to loosen them up and then when I get out ....while my muscles are still relaxed....I take a tennis ball and I stand with my back against the wall with the ball in between the wall and me .....and I give myself a massage ....it works wonders

Also while you are in the shower in a great time to completely clean out your sinuses....it blows my mind how much snot can accumulate up thre during opiate withdrawal

I also take Advil for the aches and pains...and I take Claritin d 24 for the sinuses

I hop on my ipad.....check into GLP and I watch Netflix


hang in there.....you can do it

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Lol I couldn't imagine what Heroin is like.

Ive been right hooked on blow and meth. And that's nothing compared to it.
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Ya I've withrdawn from pills before. This is way worse. This shit is the devil I can not believe how I feel..... and the worst part is, I can't tell almost anyone and I can't smoke weed... If I could smoke weed this would be CAKE
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Allot of this is in your head.

You need to Jedi mind this shit.

You know who else was addicted to opiates?

Audie Murphy

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

When we went clean after ww2 he locked himself in a motel room with a bottle of jack.
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I'm going on about 7 months clean from Oxycodone and I'll tell you the first 10-14 days were rough. No sleep, restless leg, Crazy sweating, Pain, etc.

The worst was not being able to sleep. I was lucky that I had a script for Tizanidine (Zanaflex) a muscle relaxant that I had left over. It helped me sleep for a couple hours a night and it helped to stop the sweating, restless leg, racing heart, cravings

I only took it short term though (about a week)to help me through the worst part of the W/D

After that I starting taking Amino Acids 5HTP, Tyrosine, L-Tryptophan, B-12 complex, Vitamin C

It took about a month for me to finally be able to sleep a good 5-6 hours a night and about 4 months before my energy levels began to return to normal.


You can do it OP
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I'm withdrawing from opiate addiction right now ......lortabs and percocets


if you have ever done this before then you already know about the diarrhea ...I combat this with Imodium

Water makes me sick to my stomach during withdraws so I only drink water if I'm eating ....otherwise I'm pounding powerade

I also take a multi vitamin every day and I take a b complex

For the muscle aches I take a very long hot shower....as hot as I can take it and I just let it run along my neck and shoulders to loosen them up and then when I get out ....while my muscles are still relaxed....I take a tennis ball and I stand with my back against the wall with the ball in between the wall and me .....and I give myself a massage ....it works wonders

Also while you are in the shower in a great time to completely clean out your sinuses....it blows my mind how much snot can accumulate up thre during opiate withdrawal

I also take Advil for the aches and pains...and I take Claritin d 24 for the sinuses

I hop on my ipad.....check into GLP and I watch Netflix


hang in there.....you can do it
 Quoting: Simple_Man


Im trying man this shit blows though but i need my old self back.... good thing H has a shorter half life than pills!!!
TheOne
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surround yourself with others who know what you are going through and can help you through it...
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i so wish i had a couple suboxones they work WONDERS
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oh they fall off the wagon a lot of them, I think it takes more one try, it's up there with nicotine, very very very addictive, so I just wish you well. give up the junk but don't give up trying to get off it. People who knew you before the habit will be glad to have you back, it makes a zombie of folks.

Don't give up trying to get off it.


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this is like my 20th try i lost count
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yeah i expect the average give up time span is about 10 years, some of my skewl/early twenties friends got habits.
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its crazzy how this drug took over my entire city.... insane... never thought id be like this..
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done this many times on my own hot showers help drink alot of liquids sweets ice cream juice cranberry you will not sleep well watch tv rest dont excersize bad idea try and think of it like having a bad flu whenever i get the flu it reminds me of kicking
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Normally people going through withdrawal have the support of a medical team. It's common to prescribe benzodiazipenes. Doing it alone and without help is extremely difficult. You can expect to feel terrible for days. You most likely will experience vomiting, diarhea, then constipation, profuse sweating, nausea, etc. If at all possible, find someone to help you. If not then locate food and water and keep it close by to help you cope.

Taking vitamins to infuse you with strength is recommended. You need a calm place to go through the ordeal. It will be enormously unpleasant, and you are likely to have terrible nightmares as you go through days of withdrawal.

I hope you have people's phone numbers so you can talk to people through the long night. It's overwhelming for most people, and so don't burn out friends by calling them incessantly. Switch it up.

It's very possible that your heart will be racing. Try to create as calm an environment as possible. Find good music to listen to, blankets to stay warm, some way of controlling the temperature of that room.

You may very likely lose bowel control or vomit upon yourself, so having cleaning supplies and towels quickly clean up and dump elsewhere will help. You will be overwhelmed and won't be able to do much more than that. This is why you need a second or even a third person to help you.

Try to shower everyday. You'll be delirious and doing some self-care will really help you slowly get back to a lucid state.

Going through withdrawal is only the first step. You need to develop some healthy habits like eating right to repair the damage to your body. Exercise to help you purge the toxins from your liver and blood. If you can, find someone willing to give you a massage to help center you and to move the toxins out of your lymphatic system.

There's a very high likelihood of some trigger making you desire to take more drugs. The best way is to avoid all of your drug friend, the people you scored dope from, anyone negative in any way, and make new reliable trustworthy friends.

That's very difficult as you probably have broken all your bridges. It means starting over. New people will not know your past. Be as honest as you can with them and be a friend to them to attract good friendly people.

People take drugs initially to feel better. They self-medicate because there problems are overwhelming. You still have all of those issues to deal with. Try to whittle away at them slowly. It's true, they won't go away overnight, but some tiny aspects of them will get better.

When someone is mentally ill, then they think in terms of absolutes. They think, "People are all bad or all good. I feel terrible or great." Instead personally evaluate and think, "Well truthfully it's a bad day, but I am not in screaming torturous agony. It's not a one, it's a four. What can I do to make it a five so I feel normal." Slowly but surely rachet it up by listening to good music, eating something healthy and nourishing, reading something inspiring, etc.

There are tons of people who have successfully gone through withdrawal. It is very unpleasant but achievable. Don't listen to haters.
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I'm withdrawing from opiate addiction right now ......lortabs and percocets


if you have ever done this before then you already know about the diarrhea ...I combat this with Imodium

Water makes me sick to my stomach during withdraws so I only drink water if I'm eating ....otherwise I'm pounding powerade

I also take a multi vitamin every day and I take a b complex

For the muscle aches I take a very long hot shower....as hot as I can take it and I just let it run along my neck and shoulders to loosen them up and then when I get out ....while my muscles are still relaxed....I take a tennis ball and I stand with my back against the wall with the ball in between the wall and me .....and I give myself a massage ....it works wonders

Also while you are in the shower in a great time to completely clean out your sinuses....it blows my mind how much snot can accumulate up thre during opiate withdrawal

I also take Advil for the aches and pains...and I take Claritin d 24 for the sinuses

I hop on my ipad.....check into GLP and I watch Netflix


hang in there.....you can do it
 Quoting: Simple_Man


Im trying man this shit blows though but i need my old self back.... good thing H has a shorter half life than pills!!!
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo




yeah.... I understand ..... drugs suck.....

For me it goes like this


I'm feeling bummed or depressed about this life and my failed marriage

I get my hands on a few percs and I tell myself I can handle it.....

I take them and I feel really really good ..... and it's something that I haven't felt in a long time and then 2 weeks later ....I hooked again

I truly hate them .... I wish I never even heard of them ...


like an evil gf ....they befriend you and tell you they love you and they make you feel amazing and then they turn on you and start ruining your life and then when you try and break up with them .....then they unleash hell....haha
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Normally people going through withdrawal have the support of a medical team. It's common to prescribe benzodiazipenes. Doing it alone and without help is extremely difficult. You can expect to feel terrible for days. You most likely will experience vomiting, diarhea, then constipation, profuse sweating, nausea, etc. If at all possible, find someone to help you. If not then locate food and water and keep it close by to help you cope.

Taking vitamins to infuse you with strength is recommended. You need a calm place to go through the ordeal. It will be enormously unpleasant, and you are likely to have terrible nightmares as you go through days of withdrawal.

I hope you have people's phone numbers so you can talk to people through the long night. It's overwhelming for most people, and so don't burn out friends by calling them incessantly. Switch it up.

It's very possible that your heart will be racing. Try to create as calm an environment as possible. Find good music to listen to, blankets to stay warm, some way of controlling the temperature of that room.

You may very likely lose bowel control or vomit upon yourself, so having cleaning supplies and towels quickly clean up and dump elsewhere will help. You will be overwhelmed and won't be able to do much more than that. This is why you need a second or even a third person to help you.

Try to shower everyday. You'll be delirious and doing some self-care will really help you slowly get back to a lucid state.

Going through withdrawal is only the first step. You need to develop some healthy habits like eating right to repair the damage to your body. Exercise to help you purge the toxins from your liver and blood. If you can, find someone willing to give you a massage to help center you and to move the toxins out of your lymphatic system.

There's a very high likelihood of some trigger making you desire to take more drugs. The best way is to avoid all of your drug friend, the people you scored dope from, anyone negative in any way, and make new reliable trustworthy friends.

That's very difficult as you probably have broken all your bridges. It means starting over. New people will not know your past. Be as honest as you can with them and be a friend to them to attract good friendly people.

People take drugs initially to feel better. They self-medicate because there problems are overwhelming. You still have all of those issues to deal with. Try to whittle away at them slowly. It's true, they won't go away overnight, but some tiny aspects of them will get better.

When someone is mentally ill, then they think in terms of absolutes. They think, "People are all bad or all good. I feel terrible or great." Instead personally evaluate and think, "Well truthfully it's a bad day, but I am not in screaming torturous agony. It's not a one, it's a four. What can I do to make it a five so I feel normal." Slowly but surely rachet it up by listening to good music, eating something healthy and nourishing, reading something inspiring, etc.

There are tons of people who have successfully gone through withdrawal. It is very unpleasant but achievable. Don't listen to haters.
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thank u!!!
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Just a slight aside for those of you who only know about withdrawl from their DARE class: Its not like it is in Trainspotting. Its more like a bad flu. You cannot die, you just wish you could.

(edit-unless you become seriously dehydrated. That is rare, but keep an eye on it. If you feel ill, seek help, IV fluids are wonderful)

Never ever ever try alcohol withdrawl at home, that can kill you rather quickly.

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This isn't medical advice but:

What the poster said about Immodium, or Immodium A-D. It has Loperamide in it, which is an opioid, but because it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, you won't get high.

It can be addictive though, like any opioid, so it's just to get you through the early jitters. Don't take it long term. You can get it at any grocery, walmart, drug store, etc. It's a diarrhea med. so look in that department at the store.

Also eat bananas for potassium, a good multivitamin, and drink plenty of water. Maybe with a "real lemon" packet in it. It's a little packet of lemon crystals for flavoring.

If it doesn't help or gets worse, go to the emergency room.

Good luck OP. Hang in there.
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I'm withdrawing from opiate addiction right now ......lortabs and percocets


if you have ever done this before then you already know about the diarrhea ...I combat this with Imodium

Water makes me sick to my stomach during withdraws so I only drink water if I'm eating ....otherwise I'm pounding powerade

I also take a multi vitamin every day and I take a b complex

For the muscle aches I take a very long hot shower....as hot as I can take it and I just let it run along my neck and shoulders to loosen them up and then when I get out ....while my muscles are still relaxed....I take a tennis ball and I stand with my back against the wall with the ball in between the wall and me .....and I give myself a massage ....it works wonders

Also while you are in the shower in a great time to completely clean out your sinuses....it blows my mind how much snot can accumulate up thre during opiate withdrawal

I also take Advil for the aches and pains...and I take Claritin d 24 for the sinuses

I hop on my ipad.....check into GLP and I watch Netflix


hang in there.....you can do it
 Quoting: Simple_Man


Im trying man this shit blows though but i need my old self back.... good thing H has a shorter half life than pills!!!
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo




yeah.... I understand ..... drugs suck.....

For me it goes like this


I'm feeling bummed or depressed about this life and my failed marriage

I get my hands on a few percs and I tell myself I can handle it.....

I take them and I feel really really good ..... and it's something that I haven't felt in a long time and then 2 weeks later ....I hooked again

I truly hate them .... I wish I never even heard of them ...


like an evil gf ....they befriend you and tell you they love you and they make you feel amazing and then they turn on you and start ruining your life and then when you try and break up with them .....then they unleash hell....haha
 Quoting: Simple_Man


lol. so true!
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Drug addiction is the best example of a lie that slowly gets out of hand because someone doesn't want to tell the truth.
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This isn't medical advice but:

What the poster said about Immodium, or Immodium A-D. It has Loperamide in it, which is an opioid, but because it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, you won't get high.

It can be addictive though, like any opioid, so it's just to get you through the early jitters. Don't take it long term. You can get it at any grocery, walmart, drug store, etc. It's a diarrhea med. so look in that department at the store.

Also eat bananas for potassium, a good multivitamin, and drink plenty of water. Maybe with a "real lemon" packet in it. It's a little packet of lemon crystals for flavoring.

If it doesn't help or gets worse, go to the emergency room.

Good luck OP. Hang in there.
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i will def try those thanks!
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Hope you're doing OK man, start counting down the days. I've come off oxy and dillies before, and FUCK it can be like losing an old friend.

Listen to music, get your blood going, it'll help. Number one thing is either charge into the pains head-on, or try to keep yourself immersed in something else like a movie or video game. Draw, paint, make something, anything. Can be tough, but you'll get through it.

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If you can afford it, go to Whole Foods or Trader Joes and get about 5 cartons of organic coconut water and drink a carton a day. More if you can. Watch out for the ones from concentrate or with additives. Even better, get fresh young coconuts and drink the water and eat the meat. Also eat organic coconut oil. Coconut metabolizes the drug, cleans your organs, and flushes everything out. Plus it has nutrients. Truly a miracle. Look up coconut water and drug overdose.

For pains, take hot showers and follow up with rubbing areas with Tiger Balm and Aspercreme. Drink distilled water & Pedialyte. Try to eat organic fruits & green veggies. SIPPING a hot toddy made with herbal tea and brandy may help take the edge off.
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This isn't medical advice but:

What the poster said about Immodium, or Immodium A-D. It has Loperamide in it, which is an opioid, but because it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, you won't get high.

It can be addictive though, like any opioid, so it's just to get you through the early jitters. Don't take it long term. You can get it at any grocery, walmart, drug store, etc. It's a diarrhea med. so look in that department at the store.

Also eat bananas for potassium, a good multivitamin, and drink plenty of water. Maybe with a "real lemon" packet in it. It's a little packet of lemon crystals for flavoring.

If it doesn't help or gets worse, go to the emergency room.

Good luck OP. Hang in there.
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i will def try those thanks!
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YVW. Also, if you have an herb store near you, you might try some hops, passionflower, skullcap, or valerian. They are all relaxing. Some chamomile tea might help, and you can get it from the grocery store.

If you are taking any other drugs or have other medical conditions, research each one before you use it.

Also, 2 benadryl will help you sleep.

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you can do it... it is like getting over the flu....you get better every day...

I did it and so can you!